The BIG Football Thread

[alidsl]

tl;dr for the entire thread

United fans are glory hunting dicks, everyone else is cool

 

[emigre]

So any ideas on the next Wales manager? He has to be cheap, I wouldn't say no to Gary Speed's backroom staff getting a promotion, it's not like we're struggling with the actual football itself.

 

[Flame]

tl;dr for the entire thread

United fans are glory hunting dicks, everyone else is cool

shut it you hater.

 

[kakashi919]

So most likely Santos is gonna be playing Barcelona in the World Club final. Anyone else think it's gonna be an interesting game?

 

[Satangel]

I just can't stand United coz the fans are a set of fukkin arseholes actually...... don't get me started on Fergie time, or ref bribing, or the fact they fluked probably 30pts last season........ No I'm not much of a hater... might've stroked one out watching the Basel match, but not much of a hater hahaaa.....
Bolton Wanderers here.....so when I see the Utd scum getting beat I'm bound to be chuffed - not much else be chuffed about when it comes to football at the moment.... We're still all sayig Owen Coyle will sort us out up here by the way - mind you we were saying the same thing 3 months back and things have got worse!
City only have themselves to blame for losing the match on monday - I watched the first half and they should've been, oooh, 4-0 up by the 30min mark.... still, the title's theirs to lose - another thumping win at Eastlands over them red rags should seal it!

30 points fluked, lolz, you're just hating/frustrated. I have no problems with that, I know how it feels to see a bigger team get points they don't really deserve, with sometimes pure luck and sometimes a poor refdecision. I know exactly how it feels. You're like me, but an English version

So any ideas on the next Wales manager? He has to be cheap, I wouldn't say no to Gary Speed's backroom staff getting a promotion, it's not like we're struggling with the actual football itself.

I honestly have no idea at all, my knowledge of trainers/football only originates in Belgium

Shinigami357, that post you made was gold IMHO, I have some of the same problems on here, but I know in my heart I'm not a gloryhunter and I'm not going to ditch United in bad times. Don't bother trying to convince everyone on the internet, just forget about it and ignore all the shit, it's worthless and some people on the internet (note I don't say GBAtemp in particular) are just trolling, and fail to understand proper arguments.

 

[emigre]

The thing is foreign fans are always going to ridiculed. When I see a Man City and Man Utd fan have a go at each other, when their from different countries, I can't help but laugh. The importance of local derbys was because of local pride against the people you worked with or drank with, it was about saving face. And secondly the glory hunter does illustrate how globalized and quite sad football is, where people show no interest in their local club who need support but rather support Chelsea because they loadsa money.

 

[BlueStar]

I'm not going to ditch United in bad times

Lol, bad times. Like when you only get to play in the champions league for a little bit. What a martyr.

Seriously though, just to try and explain the attitude towards Man U/Man City/Chelsea/Liverpool 'fans'. Before the Man U bandwagon, and even now amongst most British fans, football is about more than football. It's representing your city and everything (cultural/political/class/history) that goes with it. You support that club because it stands for who you are, it's the club you cheer on as a symbol of your home - if you go there week in, week out or if you can get a ticket someone can't use that week, or pay on the door for a cup game. Rivalries aren't things like Man U and Chelsea being billed as a grudge match because a few seasons ago they were both in with a shot at the title and maybe someone dived to win a penalty. Leeds, the Sheffield clubs and Newcastle hate Notts County and Nottingham Forest because in the 80s when there was the miner's strike the Nottingham Miners scabbed and broke the strike. Liverpool and Manchester hate each other because they competed as the industrial heartland of the North West. Newcastle and Sunderland were on opposing sides in the Civil War. West Ham and Chelsea think of each other as scum and snobs, representing the class divide between east and west London. Wherever you come from, I'm sure you can think of regional groups, each with their own political, religious and civil leanings. Now imagine a group you don't particularly like happens to have a talented singer, or gets a big investment from a foreign businessman to make whatever product. And suddenly a load of people from all over the world are waving their flags, wearing their colours, singing their traditional songs, without the slightest clue about any of their culture or history, and calling you 'their' rivals, their enemies.

The reason Man U get it in the neck is because they seem to be the team who invented it. There didn't seem to be any of this as a kid, you supported you hometown unless, say, your dad had moved from another town for work and you inherited his bloodline. So suddenly in the 90s when people were going "Oh, I'm from Essex, but I support Manchester" people were all

 

[rockstar99]

You all know what? I'm sick and tired of all this BS. Everywhere on the internet, all I get for being a United supporter is grief from people. Brits especially, and don't even deny it. Every British football fan who isn't a United supporter hates us. Heck, the club's biggest fanbase is in Asia [no wonder the next planned IPO is in Singapore].


Let me tell you something else.

Isn't is sorta odd for Man Utd fans to make jokes about a team having money?

First things first. This fucking quote. I'll be clear: all I was doing was joshing the Chelsea - City match and laughing at a clever hashtag on Twitter. Of course someone jumps me [and every other United supporter there is]. Apparently, everyone on Twitter is a United fan. To set the record straight: someone coined it, not me. I'm not sure who, or which club he supported, but attacking a particular group of people for something that a lot more are doing is wrong.

Maybe I should have passed it on to a non-United fan so he can post it. FFS

The developing players is shit.How many first teamers do you have from your academy?

http://en.wikipedia....emy#The_Academy
http://en.wikipedia....%27s_Fledglings

Assuming you count the earlier ones, coz most of them have either retired or been sold. Pretty sure we have Cleverley and Welbeck, and apparently Pogba and Morrison might break through soon.

And yes, before you cry foul and condemn me... Yeah, I wiki'd it. I don't have a fucking list. Your move, Barcelona "supporter".

All I'm saying is that it's rich Man U moaning about teams taking advantage of English football's modern money and fame when they were perfectly happy to exploit it for their own ends. Of course if it wasn't them, it would probably be someone else. Man united were lucky in the sense that they had a good team and a good manager just at the time when football was having its renaissance. After decades of shit stadiums, shit football, violence and an atmosphere that was not welcoming for anyone but young local men, suddenly there was Satellite TV money, foreign fans, big shirt and hoardings deals, family areas and corporate hospitality, all of which was directed upwards to the biggest names in the game. The team at at the top of the pile at that point when the music stopped had a chance to basically pull the ladder up. It happened to be Man U. If all this had happened when Forest or Leeds had been the big lads, they'd probably still be the ones playing in the champions league every season and they'd probably be who you supported.

Firs things first. You're prob right. I could have supported another team. But I didn't. The reason I support them isn't the trophies - when I got interested in football, it was from from the FIFA game, not the league itself. I picked the team with the only player I know of - Beckham [ironically, a product of the youth system].

I never even got to watch a proper football match until late 2007 [I believe it was Bolton against... Middlesbrough IIRC], because they're cable only. By then I was a full supporter. The fucking schedule alone is a pain in the ass [early kickoff is 8 pm here... The Chelsea - City match this all stemmed from? 4 in the fucking morning.].

That's the way football fans usually start supporting teams if they're not in a football obsessed country. The players you know, or whoever is winning [i.e. see Barcelona "supporter" above]. I don't apologize for that.

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Apparently, the "anyone but United" bandwagon is even bigger than the actual United bandwagon. I said this before, I'll say it again. We're not saints. We're just United.

Everyone's vilifying us for the money, and buying players and whatnot and breaking some transfer records. You forget we sold the most expensive player ever, a season or two removed from winning the Ballon d'Or; we sold an ex-England captain, one of the best wingers at the time, to the same fucking team; they were both arguably in their prime. Our players, regardless of skill or price, get sold, too. [You see Barcelona selling Messi any time soon? Or Xavi?] There's a reason SAF isn't sweating the Fairplay rule [though this rebuilding is sure to fuck things up some].

Hell, anyone asked Real lately how their two eras of galacticos went? Here we are, in the most loaded league in the planet, whereas they're in a two-horse race, and who won more? They have a Ballon d'Or winning player and a manager who managed a treble, both of whom they bought, what do they have?

Anyone remember why SAF called VDS, our best keeper since Schmeichel, the steal of the century?

Also, ever see a team crying because they just sold a player for millions more than he was worth? The reason players even sell for these damn ridiculous prices we get blamed for is partly the selling team's fault, too. We didn't sneak off into the night with their players for nothing.

You say we don't have a youth system? We have the most decorated player in English football, approaching 40, still starting, and obviously they don't care. Prob coz Giggsy is Welsh. When Scholes retired, everyone was heaping praise on him, including this guy Zidane [you may have heard of him]. Most of them either won something with United or moved on to some other club [i.e. got sold]. How many EPL teams manage that with their youth system?

And they said "you don't win anything with kids".

You say our manager exploited the market, etc etc? Sure. You also see the difference between Tevez fucking around at Man City, whereas he was sold at once by United? You understand the idea of "no player is bigger than the club"?

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Great, now I'm pissed...

So, yeah. Go ahead and hate on us and the club we support. FFS, I'd never hear the end of this because of one measly post.And you guys think there's something wrong with us. How bout you take a look at the mirror, lads? Which of us is worse? The guy just supporting his club or the people who prosecute others based on who they support? Heck, if I was a two-face like some people [again, see Barcelona "supporter"], I'd prob own up to it.

Yeah I'm a Barcelona gloryhunter?

You are no worse in that aspect douche

 

[ThatDudeWithTheFood]

You are no worse in that aspect douche

FIRST TIME ROCKSTAR USED QUOTE TAGS
Also stop the flame hes saying that you switch allegiances.
Although you may say that you only support 1 team and that has been true forever.
The last time I posted I included a quote that said you supported 3 teams.
He is saying that he has always supported Manchester United which is different then supporting like 3 teams.

 

[rockstar99]

You are no worse in that aspect douche

FIRST TIME ROCKSTAR USED QUOTE TAGS
Also stop the flame hes saying that you switch allegiances.
Although you may say that you only support 1 team and that has been true forever.
The last time I posted I included a quote that said you supported 3 teams.
He is saying that he has always supported Manchester United which is different then supporting like 3 teams.

This thread is a joke.. every 2 days you get this glory hunter debate.I hate this shit.I come to talk about football not who I support, she supports, he supports, you support

 

[rockstar99]

Get Well Soon David

 

[Shinigami357]

Apparently the Brits think they can market their league globally, and yet prevent foreigners from supporting whatever team they wish to.

Can't eat your cake it still have it too, blockheads.

 

[Flame]

Apparently the Brits think they can market their league globally, and yet prevent foreigners from supporting whatever team they wish to.

Can't eat your cake it still have it too, blockheads.

no, I'm a Brit. i support Man Utd just like you, but other supporters are just jelly, we have 19, yes thats correct 19 league championship, i deal with this shit everyday in Britain . don't let the haters get to you. Man Utd is a global brand, unlike the other town teams.

 

[Satangel]

Yesssssss, yes yes yesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyes Club Brugge advances to the next round of the EL!!! TOgether with Standard de LIege and ANderlecht, it's the first time 3 teams of Belgium advance to the next stage of the EL! And WE'RE ALL FUCKING GROUPWINNERS, HOW AWESOME IS THAT?! Birmingham is kicked out though, shame, I liked them a lot more than Braga.

 

[BlueStar]

Apparently the Brits think they can market their league globally, and yet prevent foreigners from supporting whatever team they wish to

It might surprise you, but some people don't particularly like the league being marketed globally, or the mass commercialisation and plastic fans that come with it. And you have the freedom to pretend to support whoever you like, just like people have the freedom to not take that support seriously.

Sometimes when I see the way some people go on about British football, I get the feeling I know what Japanese people must think about weeaboos

 

[kakashi919]

I'm backing Stoke to win the EL
I wonder if they have what it takes to win it all? Their style of play is quite troublesome. Go Kenwyn!

 

[BlueStar]

Really hate the way they play, but you can't argue it's not effective. The problem with the league nowadays is that it's so uncompetitive. It used to be that with the right manager, players and owner (as in a normal actual career football club chairman/owner) then any team could challenge for the title. Now to go for the top prize you either have to be a big club like Man U or Liverpool, or a medium sized club like Man City or Chelsea that someone's bought as a plaything. Makes it rather boring. Well, unless you just want to pick a team and know you'll always be watching them winning trophies, and you'd rather coo at the best players in the game all playing in one squad and tearing apart the jobber teams who've had any promising young players snatched off them by the top 6 after their first good season like it's a fireworks display.

 

[rockstar99]

David Villa out for 5 months.
Still have Pedro, Sanchez, Iniesta and Cuenca.
If needed Pep can call up Kiko or Tello from the B Team.

Been watching lots of Barca B and U19s for the past month, they are class

 

[BlueStar]

Mackem wankers Bendtner and Cattermole arrested for vandalising cars. It's OK though, people on the Sunderland board are celebrating because they did it in Newcastle after a night out (Sunder;and players tend to live, eat and drink in Newcastle, because Sunderland is a shit hole).

Comes a few weeks after Bendtner was filmed demanding free pizza from a takeaway and then begging people for money to buy one, and shortly after he had a fight with someone in a hotel. What an utter cunt.

 

[Shinigami357]

Damn, that sucks for Villa. He's one of my fave strikers. Hope he gets back to 100% soon.