The Apple iPad

[nando]

looking at it again it's not a bad idea. it's definitely going to find it's niche. i mean look at how well the kindle sells (supposedly sells. i think amazon lies about it to promote it), i rather have this then something like kindle. it's another dedicated device like the ipod or the kindle.

edit: the more i look at it the more sense it makes. the real downside of course is the memory, which for a device that big is inexcusable. still not for me, but i can see people that aren't into computers really loving it.

 

[Urza]

So you're syaing I'm a Microsoft fanboy now? Nice. You're right though, fanboys do tend to put words in other people's mouths, which you just did. If I was a Microsoft fanboy, I'd be saying everything Microsoft is better then anything Apple. Which I'm not, now am I. I'm merely saying you sound exactly likea butthurt Apple fanboy, defending it at every turn. That "enormous library" is mostly crap, quite literally. The best web browser? I think not. But that may be opinion, so whatever. It's build quality sucks, as I've seen many people accidentally break them by JUST ONE DROP. And interface isn't "intuitive" or "snappy". It's plain, annoying, and relatively stupid. Unlike the original iPod's interfaces.
If you go with the dictionary definition of "mostly" as "the majority", that still leaves a potential 69,999 "good" apps

The rest of your post is mostly subjective, so I won't bother arguing with it as you seem pretty set in your ways. The build quality issue is arguable, but being a full glass display it will always have a breakpoint at a specific angle (although they could start using gorilla glass potentially, which would eliminate the issue for a specific cost).

You saying it's going to be the best, or rather will be from what we've heard, is like saying Natal will be the best with what it does. And look at what we've seen. The more info we get, the less Natal appeals to anyone. And I can already see that something similar will happen with this.
It's definitely a possibility, but based on the production model he had in his hands it seems unlikely. Natal was more a proof of concept than an actual product when it was announced, which is not really true of this device.

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You can call me a fanboy all you want, but it doesn't make one. But really, I care less about an argument with you then keeping my warn level down, so I'm done. Besides, I gotta go to work.

Long story short: You can call me a fanboy with no reasoning to back it up, but when I call you one I'm full of shit?

I gave plenty of valid reasons for my consumer choice. You gave none. Regardless of whether or not you actually are a fanboy, you definitely look like one based on your post content.

 

[playallday]

Wow... It's a $500 iPod Touch...

 

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I do enjoy Apple VS Microsoft threads.

 

[Seraph]

its just a macbook with a touch screen

Nah, at least macbooks are actually practical/useful and can be powerful. Only a 1 GHz processor and $700-800 for 64GB? It's a glorified iPod Touch/iPhone. I already have something that kills this...it's called a tablet PC with a pretty good GPU.

1) Clock speed is not the defining factor of processor power. See: every non-Intel/AMD chip ever made.

2) Your tablet PC is probably several times heavier and bulkier than this. A very poor implementation of this form factor.

3) Not sure how you can comment on the GPU when the spec hasn't been announced.

4) That tablet PC probably costed more than 500USD.

I could go on, but your post presented enough nonfacts to correct on it's own.

Well it's a good thing I wasn't trying to list facts and just voicing my opinion. I'm not looking for a netbook(which I could critique similar to the iPad) and most people here probably aren't either. My tablet is roughly 3 times heavier...and certainly bulkier than a slate, but I never stated it as an alternative for everyone. I didn't comment on the CPU as the spec hasn't been announced. The iPad also costs more than $500. Way to go for posting irrelevant facts.

But, yes, if someone was looking for a touchscreen, ultra-portable, netbook replacement, this would be it.

 

[Thoob]

Can't we just discuss the product instead of starting another Microsoft v Apple thread? Because we all know Microsoft > Apple.

 

[Urza]

Well it's a good thing I wasn't trying to list facts and just voicing my opinion. I'm not looking for a netbook(which I could critique similar to the iPad) and most people here probably aren't either. My tablet is roughly 3 times heavier...and certainly bulkier than a slate, but I never stated it as an alternative for everyone.

I already have something that kills this

I didn't comment on the CPU as the spec hasn't been announced.

previous post

Only a 1 GHz processor

 

[Jakob95]

Gonna be the same with the iPhone, I'm just holding out till a real killer appears (with all the functions I want) and then I will buy that.

2.5 years and counting

I can wait, I'm mainly waiting for a phone that can watch normal TV on the go.

Get the LG Voyager I got that phone and have Mobile TV on it.

 

[Urza]

Gonna be the same with the iPhone, I'm just holding out till a real killer appears (with all the functions I want) and then I will buy that.

2.5 years and counting

I can wait, I'm mainly waiting for a phone that can watch normal TV on the go.

Get the LG Voyager I got that phone and have Mobile TV on it.

Can also get a Slingbox, which has clients available for most of the major mobile platforms (WinMo, MobileOSX, Symbian and BBOS iirc).

 

[Seraph]

Well it's a good thing I wasn't trying to list facts and just voicing my opinion. I'm not looking for a netbook(which I could critique similar to the iPad) and most people here probably aren't either. My tablet is roughly 3 times heavier...and certainly bulkier than a slate, but I never stated it as an alternative for everyone.

I already have something that kills this

I didn't comment on the CPU as the spec hasn't been announced.

previous post

Only a 1 GHz processor

And? First one: that's my opinion for me. Second: I commented on what my tablet has, never did I say the iPad's was going to be worse. Third: I never said what that 1GHz processor meant for me or anyone else, just that it was only 1GHz.

 

[Urza]

And? First one: that's my opinion for me. Second: I commented on what my tablet has, never did I say the iPad's was going to be worse. Third: I never said what that 1GHz processor meant for me or anyone else, just that it was only 1GHz.

Whether or not you actually said it doesn't change the fact that it was clearly implied.

 

[nando]

after reading the specs i'm wondering what is up with apple developing their own chip? i wonder if intel could be on their way out. as shocking as it was when they switched to intel, i'd be even more shocked if they became a chip manufacturer also.

 

[Shakraka]

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[Urza]

after reading the specs i'm wondering what is up with apple developing their own chip? i wonder if intel could be on their way out. as shocking as it was when they switched to intel, i'd be even more shocked if they became a chip manufacturer also.

Unlikely, as the arch used on these chips wouldn't translate well to a full desktop platform.

In terms of them being developed "in-house," Apple acquired Imagine Technologies earlier in the year, likely the team who actually created it.

 

[Seraph]

And? First one: that's my opinion for me. Second: I commented on what my tablet has, never did I say the iPad's was going to be worse. Third: I never said what that 1GHz processor meant for me or anyone else, just that it was only 1GHz.

Whether or not you actually said it doesn't change the fact that it was clearly implied.

That's true, but that only applies to the processor statement. The implication would then be my opinion, which in my opinion that processor most likely isn't what I want.

 

[Dookieman]

after reading the specs i'm wondering what is up with apple developing their own chip? i wonder if intel could be on their way out. as shocking as it was when they switched to intel, i'd be even more shocked if they became a chip manufacturer also.

The chip was made by ARM. The same company that makes the iPhone/HTC/Nintendo DS processors. "Apple designed" could mean anything. Most likely, I think it is a variation on another chip that ARM produces with some tweaks that apple wanted. Thus making it Apple designed.

 

[Densetsu]

.......meh. Do people really need these? I mean how far can communication needs do we need?! If I could contact my Ireland Mistress over the phone and Internets in under 0.5 of a sec. Do we really need this?

Probably not, but we definitely need this.

Spoiler: Macbook Wheel

 

[Deleted User]

I think the product's name is pretty crappy. Sounds like someone saying "iPod" with some sort of accent.

I have no further opinion on this device.

 

[Urza]

And? First one: that's my opinion for me. Second: I commented on what my tablet has, never did I say the iPad's was going to be worse. Third: I never said what that 1GHz processor meant for me or anyone else, just that it was only 1GHz.

Whether or not you actually said it doesn't change the fact that it was clearly implied.

That's true, but that only applies to the processor statement. The implication would then be my opinion, which in my opinion that processor most likely isn't what I want.

Fair enough.


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The chip was made by ARM. The same company that makes the iPhone/HTC/Nintendo DS processors. "Apple designed" could mean anything. Most likely, I think it is a variation on another chip that ARM produces with some tweaks that apple wanted. Thus making it Apple designed.

"ARM" is the name of the architecture, which other companies can license from the company who owns the rights to make their own chips based off of.

Where did you see ARM mentioned?

 

[godsakes]

i don't own any apple products as i'm not into my music nor mobiles gadgets - but i have to say i am interested in the ipad for casual internet browsing & ebook reading around the house (assuming it's well implemented). if it came with a stand it would be useful as a picture frame for displaying my photos (i do have one of those picture frames but the image quality is naff)

the music/video playback would be side bonuses