Hacking Discussion Team Xecuter Websites Down.

[wurstpistole]

If you're already banned its a wonderful tool

If you're already banned it makes zero sense to even use it

 

[Adran_Marit]

Believe whatever you want to believe

Don't the ipatched consoles reject the payloads because they fixed it so they need to be signed?

I'm a little hazy on how exactly the ipatched consoles fixed it.

yes, we get it.

sigpatches do no violate copyright (no ''illegal'' code), but they are only useful to violate copyright.

similar to how... hmm.. nope.. I can't think of anything offhand that isn't illegal by itself, but can ONLY be used for illegal activities.

So my modifying my switch I have violated the terms of service, which nintendo have acted on and banned me from their online service. This is fair.

I have xyz game cart, which I don't want to carry around with me all the time, I make a backup with my modified switch but I can't use it?

I then find the sig patched which allow me to run my legal backup game, the process of doing so is a moral gray area here at best, how is it illegal?

 

[gizmomelb]

So my modifying my switch I have violated the terms of service, which nintendo have acted on and banned me from their online service. This is fair.

I have xyz game cart, which I don't want to carry around with me all the time, I make a backup with my modified switch but I can't use it?

I then find the sig patched which allow me to run my legal backup game, the process of doing so is a moral gray area here at best, how is it illegal?

because IN AUSTRALIA it is not legal to make a backup of a cartridge you have purchased, it does not fall into the Fair Use clause. for more recent info, see here:

https://www.kotaku.com.au/2019/03/are-roms-legal-in-australia/

 

[Adran_Marit]

because IN AUSTRALIA it is not legal to make a backup of a cartridge you have purchased, it does not fall into the Fair Use clause. for more recent info, see here:

https://www.kotaku.com.au/2019/03/are-roms-legal-in-australia/

It's not legal to make the backup but it is legal to posesses it if you made it from your own cart. (not downloaded)

They say dumping it is illegal, they don't say having a dumped copy (after the fact) is illegal

Even the article you posted and I quote, "there may be some exceptions if you do own the game and rip the ROM yourself"


Also lets look at the flip side of digital content which I purchase from an eshop (steam, origin, nintendo eshop, ms store) etc. I purchase that copy of the game, I am legally entitled to redownload said copy of that game if I remove it from the device for whatever reason, say a harddrive upgrade in my playstation. Company then goes and removes the download for a game I legally own, but am no longer able to obtain, what happens then?

 

[gizmomelb]

Even the article you posted and I quote, "there may be some exceptions if you do own the game and rip the ROM yourself"

Also lets look at the flip side of digital content which I purchase from an eshop (steam, origin, nintendo eshop, ms store) etc. I purchase that copy of the game, I am legally entitled to redownload said copy of that game if I remove it from the device for whatever reason, say a harddrive upgrade in my playstation. Company then goes and removes the download for a game I legally own, but am no longer able to obtain, what happens then?

as they say to err on the side of caution.. THERE MAY be exceptions.

so far as I'm aware it hasn't been contested in Australian courts, but when the majority of legal consults say it's best not to do so.. then well caveat emptor.

As for digital titles, I believe you are not purchasing the rights to the owning the game, merely leasing a digital copy of it. So when you die, all your Steam, iStore, eStore, pornhub etc. accounts go back to the company, you cannot pass them on as a legacy to any family.

Some services allow you to re-download games that they no longer have the licence to sell, some games are pulled entirely from the store. I still have Bad Company 2 on Steam as well as steam gifts for it, even though it was removed from sale many years ago.

EDIT: also talk of copyright is WAY off topic for this thread, which is - Team Executor Websites down. Which is technically no longer the case.

 

[ombus]

i feel you can have backups but cant play them.. if you need to bypass security to do so then its a no no.

 

[Absintu]

https://www.lumendatabase.org/topics/12
Everything used to circumventing security is a violation of DCMA. gbatemp should remove atmo links also to be consistent, or accept links to TX website. IMO there should be only rules to link to ROMS. If u can't link to TX, u should also not link to atmo. BTW: I love atmo and their devs, but not the majority of supporters

The DMCA prohibits circumventing access-control measures:
http://www.dmlp.org/legal-guide/circumventing-copyright-controls

 

[Deleted User]

If you're already banned it makes zero sense to even use it

its still useful if you dont want to be pestered with update notifications, since being banned still nets you system updates for no reason

 

[TheZander]

If you're already banned its a wonderful tool

if you'r

its still useful if you dont want to be pestered with update notifications, since being banned still nets you system updates for no reason

Who here is still just half banned?

 

[Deleted User]

if you'r

Who here is still just half banned?

Someone clearly doesn't know what they are talking about

 

[ZachyCatGames]

Don't the ipatched consoles reject the payloads because they fixed it so they need to be signed?

I'm a little hazy on how exactly the ipatched consoles fixed it.

Who ever said ipatched console hax would use RCM

 

[Adran_Marit]

Who ever said ipatched console hax would use RCM

This... is a very true point... I was just going under that assumption, the next questions are, if it's something different, when will it be released as to avoid patching in future consoles and if it is something different what level access does it have

 

[Switch_Maniac]

Does other cfw have permission from nintendo to circumvent security measures to install/use unsigned stuff? No, to which i say: lol

This was more or less the point I was trying to make. People act like running CFW on a console isn't illegal in itself in like 99% of the world. Shit in Japan you go to jail now. Getting technical and saying well it doesn't have Nintendo's code is just a way to bash TX specifically IMO.

 

[Adran_Marit]

This was more or less the point I was trying to make. People act like running CFW on a console isn't illegal in itself in like 99% of the world. Shit in Japan you go to jail now. Getting technical and saying well it doesn't have Nintendo's code is just a way to bash TX specifically IMO.

quoting linuxares here; A lot of countries including mine do allow you to modify your own hardware.

However, that is only half true. A lot of countries including mine do allow you to modify your own hardware. It's your product. Atmosphere do not provide these sigpatches and therefore are totally OK in the DMCA books as well.
The exploit however is a different story but it's not Reswitched exploit that is being used.

 

[comput3rus3r]

Stay on topic please. TX WEBSITES DOWN. yes there are temp sites up but they have claimed that no seizures have occured and will be back online again. We're waiting to see who's ultimately right. TX VS Doubters.

 

[mmajunkie77]

Stay on topic please. TX WEBSITES DOWN. yes there are temp sites up but they have claimed that no seizures have occured and will be back online again. We're waiting to see who's ultimately right. TX VS Doubters.

They are back online, so that should be the end of this thread. So it's not on the original site for now? Ok.... You can still do everything on the temp site that was intended on the original. Sad it has to turn into a battle of who's right and who's wrong about a f'ing website. Jesus christ. Atmo links shouldn't be allowed here either, but then again we know how that goes on the temp lol

Not aiming this directly at you OP, just using your quote.

 

[Adran_Marit]

They are back online, so that should be the end of this thread. So it's not on the original site for now? Ok.... You can still do everything on the temp site that was intended on the original. Sad it has to turn into a battle of who's right and who's wrong about a f'ing website. Jesus christ. Atmo links shouldn't be allowed here either, but then again we know how that goes on the temp lol

Not aiming this directly at you OP, just using your quote.

You see, the thing it turned too is why are the originals down?, why did it take them so long to bring temp ones up?

they said it was maintenance but the whois says differently. Why did tx delete peoples comment from their facebook page asking what was happening?

This is why the thread is still open, plus it also leads to debate on the issue

 

[Switch_Maniac]

quoting linuxares here; A lot of countries including mine do allow you to modify your own hardware.

My last comment on this. Who is he? Some world wide lawyer that knows all countries laws? Agreeing to the terms of use and then doing something that goes against that is "illegal" no matter where you are. Like I mentioned earlier, in Japan you can actually go to jail for modding your console. Most countries is not all countries and people from all over the world come to this site. Information should stay uniform is what I am getting at and should all be treated equally no matter what CFW it's about.

 

[Adran_Marit]

My last comment on this. Who is he? Some world wide lawyer that knows all countries laws? Agreeing to the terms of use and then doing something that goes against that is "illegal" no matter where you are. Like I mentioned earlier, in Japan you can actually go to jail for modding your console. Most countries is not all countries and people from all over the world come to this site. Information should stay uniform is what I am getting at and should all be treated equally no matter what CFW it's about.

people should know their countries laws and know what they are getting into when they breach the terms of service

 

[mmajunkie77]

You see, the thing it turned too is why are the originals down?, why did it take them so long to bring temp ones up?

they said it was maintenance but the whois says differently. Why did tx delete peoples comment from their facebook page asking what was happening?

This is why the thread is still open, plus it also leads to debate on the issue

It's back up, that's all that should matter. People here literally look for anything they can to bring anybody they can down. Those are the absolute worst kinds of people, whether they see themselves or not.

30+ pages of straight BS. Majority of you should be ashamed. Website is up and running, but it's still not enough. Blows my mind, it really does.