Gaming Steam for Mac

[Rydian]

http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_os.asp
The W3C reports that home mac users outnumber home linux users, 6.9% last month.
to quote directly from the page:
QUOTE"Statistics Are Often Misleading

You cannot - as a web developer - rely only on statistics. Statistics can often be misleading.

Global averages may not always be relevant to your web site. Different sites attract different audiences. Some web sites attract professional developers using professional hardware, while other sites attract hobbyists using old low spec computers. "

Plus, you seem to forget that the people who would need W3schools the most, would probably not be using *nix. (*nix systems generally being associated with performance and developers, not silly apple fanboys on their oversimplified OS)

I was countering what he posted, not saying that was the end-all of stats, I assumed people could read the page.

 

[DSGamer64]

I don't know a soul who would use Linux over Mac OS. There are far too many options and there is far too much frustration involved with Linux over any other operating system in my opinion. Windows and Mac OSX are both highly user friendly for installing software and hardware, this is coming from someone who has used a few different Linux distributions as well as Windows and Mac OS. The compatibility for hardware on Linux is just fail unless you are using a netbook that has Linux pre-installed on it or can somehow scrape together drivers for a custom built computer, since pre-built machines generally don't have most of the hardware drivers available for Linux. Linux is all well and good, but there are a lot of headaches and hurdles you have to overcome in order to use it. The lack of a standardization among Linux operating systems is one of the reasons it will never come close to comparing with Mac OS or Windows, if they all ran on a similar infrastructure and had the support from hardware developers as well as a more user friendly design, it would be a lot more popular.

Mac OS is more popular then Linux for many reasons and when it comes to computers, if the operating system isn't user friendly and lacks any kind of software and hardware support as well as being pretty much idiot proof, people won't invest their time in it. I have tried using Linux distros like PCLinux and RedHat and even with an enormous amount of research into drivers and learning how to use Linux itself, I find it far too frustrating to deal with over Windows.

 

[Deleted member 133311]

Looks pretty good. Its about time. MAC users can rejoice!

 

[juggernaut911]

I don't know a soul who would use Linux over Mac OS.

Pleased to meet you!

Linux builds are for people who aren't afraid to get their hands dirty. OSX is very simplified and restricting in some areas.

 

[prowler]

I don't know a soul who would use Linux over Mac OS.

Then you're obviously not well informed on the matter.
Many people would pick a Linux distro over Mac OS.

 

[DeltaBurnt]

I don't know a soul who would use Linux over Mac OS.

That's like 100% of all Linux users :\

 

[nando]

I don't know a soul who would use Linux over Mac OS.

Then you're obviously not well informed on the matter.
Many people would pick a Linux distro over Mac OS.

what if the man really doesn't know anyone who would? most of the people i know don't even know what linux is. if they have computer problems and i ask what os are they on, they get confused. so it is very likely that he does not know a soul that would.

 

[UltraMagnus]

I don't know a soul who would use Linux over Mac OS. There are far too many options and there is far too much frustration involved with Linux over any other operating system in my opinion. Windows and Mac OSX are both highly user friendly for installing software and hardware, this is coming from someone who has used a few different Linux distributions as well as Windows and Mac OS. The compatibility for hardware on Linux is just fail unless you are using a netbook that has Linux pre-installed on it or can somehow scrape together drivers for a custom built computer, since pre-built machines generally don't have most of the hardware drivers available for Linux. Linux is all well and good, but there are a lot of headaches and hurdles you have to overcome in order to use it. The lack of a standardization among Linux operating systems is one of the reasons it will never come close to comparing with Mac OS or Windows, if they all ran on a similar infrastructure and had the support from hardware developers as well as a more user friendly design, it would be a lot more popular.

Mac OS is more popular then Linux for many reasons and when it comes to computers, if the operating system isn't user friendly and lacks any kind of software and hardware support as well as being pretty much idiot proof, people won't invest their time in it. I have tried using Linux distros like PCLinux and RedHat and even with an enormous amount of research into drivers and learning how to use Linux itself, I find it far too frustrating to deal with over Windows.

I have never had any problems with hardware compatibility with linux, and speaking as someone who went from using linux to macOS, I found it far easier to install software on linux than on macOS. All you have to do on linux is fire up synaptic and click install on whatever software you want.

 

[Rydian]

All you have to do on linux is fire up synaptic and click install on whatever software you want.

That's only if the software you want (and the specific version of it you want) is in your distro's package manager, however.

 

[Cermage]

I have never had any problems with hardware compatibility with linux, and speaking as someone who went from using linux to macOS, I found it far easier to install software on linux than on macOS. All you have to do on linux is fire up synaptic and click install on whatever software you want.

hardware compatability isn't the main problem with linux, support is. lolatidrivers. also adobe programs. for the most part, most linux distro's will do what you need in a round about way, but a lot more hassle than is needed. You want to play games? compatibility isn't guaranteed, lots of performance issues and a few work arounds needed for a few games. you want to use photoshop? half the things don't work. You want flash? lol who watches flash in fullscreen anyway?

sure there are freeware alternatives (GIMP, Open office and whatnot) and it is often argued whether they provide the same useability then their counterparts. but in the end of the day, it depends whether you like convenience with an operating system or not.

 

[DeltaBurnt]

I have never had any problems with hardware compatibility with linux, and speaking as someone who went from using linux to macOS, I found it far easier to install software on linux than on macOS. All you have to do on linux is fire up synaptic and click install on whatever software you want.

hardware compatability isn't the main problem with linux, support is. lolatidrivers. also adobe programs. for the most part, most linux distro's will do what you need in a round about way, but a lot more hassle than is needed. You want to play games? compatibility isn't guaranteed, lots of performance issues and a few work arounds needed for a few games. you want to use photoshop? half the things don't work. You want flash? lol who watches flash in fullscreen anyway?

sure there are freeware alternatives (GIMP, Open office and whatnot) and it is often argued whether they provide the same useability then their counterparts. but in the end of the day, it depends whether you like convenience with an operating system or not.

Erm...a lot of Mac's versions of those popular programs can be pretty half assed compared to the Windows versions as well.

Plus your comment about games is funny, because up until this was announced Mac was in the same position if not a lot worse.

 

[Minox]

I think that what it all comes down to is that Mac OS X is a unified platform like Windows and unlike all the different Linux distros. And while it would probably be possible to make a Linux client for Steam I'm sure it'd be a lot more hassle since you'd have to solve a lot of compatibility issues that may only appear in some certain distros.

What I'm basically trying to say is that it'd probably be a lot more work for Valve than it'd be worth.

 

[Cermage]

Erm...a lot of Mac's versions of those popular programs can be pretty half assed compared to the Windows versions as well.

Plus your comment about games is funny, because up until this was announced Mac was in the same position if not a lot worse.

On osx, if a popular windows program is fairly halfassed, its pretty much guaranteed apple will have their own version of said program that performs okay, if not as well as the competitor - with active support. thats the main difference between linux and osx as a platform. while 3rd party apps like gimp and open office, aren't developed to be suited to run on one os, they're developed to be used on anything it can be used on, its not going to perform as well as something spefically designed to run for a single os.

yeah osx was doing pretty poorly in the game dep. before valve dropped steam on it. but it had a fair few officially supported games no? with somewhat active updates and pretty much guaranteed support. so you know its going work. with wine and the likes, its not guaranteed to work, you may get a game running, but end up getting huge slowdowns, graphical glitches, hangs e.t.c just making it all the more frustrating even if you do have the required hardware to run it.

 

[UltraMagnus]

I have never had any problems with hardware compatibility with linux, and speaking as someone who went from using linux to macOS, I found it far easier to install software on linux than on macOS. All you have to do on linux is fire up synaptic and click install on whatever software you want.

hardware compatability isn't the main problem with linux, support is. lolatidrivers. also adobe programs. for the most part, most linux distro's will do what you need in a round about way, but a lot more hassle than is needed. You want to play games? compatibility isn't guaranteed, lots of performance issues and a few work arounds needed for a few games. you want to use photoshop? half the things don't work. You want flash? lol who watches flash in fullscreen anyway?

sure there are freeware alternatives (GIMP, Open office and whatnot) and it is often argued whether they provide the same useability then their counterparts. but in the end of the day, it depends whether you like convenience with an operating system or not.


the same applies to macs with games, and the open office and the GIMP are better than M$ office and photoshop, hell, I was pissed off at how badly the GIMP runs on a mac.

QUOTE(UltraMagnus @ Apr 27 2010, 02:32 AM)

All you have to do on linux is fire up synaptic and click install on whatever software you want.

That's only if the software you want (and the specific version of it you want) is in your distro's package manager, however.

I think I only ever found one package that wasn't in my package manager on ubuntu, xilinx ise, which had an automated installer. (and, coincidentally is only for win and lin, and is rather annoyingly not available for mac)

 

[Rogue_Syst3m]

I thought this was out already. But heres your question mac users. HAO2SECONDPORTAL? Thats right! The second portal uses the right click, but you have 1 button? How do you scroll on a mac too? I guess you will all have to buy a more compatible mouse?

umm cause i use a logitech performance mx mouse??