Hardware SSD´s - TBW experiences

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Hello.:)

Today,since 3 hours,my FIRST SSD has a new life in my PC.
Used as Systemdrive C it´s really faster than all HDDs i´ve used before.

It´s an Crucial BX 500 3D NAND with 480 GB and the manufacturer guaranteed 120 TBs.
As reading in the Internet/Test says,this value can be by far "crucial" higher.

What are YOUR experiences with the "LIFE" of this HDDs ? Thank you for your feedback.:)
 

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Hello.:)

Today,since 3 hours,my FIRST SSD has a new life in my PC.
Used as Systemdrive C it´s really faster than all HDDs i´ve used before.

It´s an Crucial BX 500 3D NAND with 480 GB and the manufacturer guaranteed 120 TBs.
As reading in the Internet/Test says,this value can be by far "crucial" higher.

What are YOUR experiences with the "LIFE" of this HDDs ? Thank you for your feedback.:)
I've got a 120GB PNY SSD that I've been using for almost 3 years now as my boot drive.
I'm not a speed freak, and the drive has served me well. I think most people upgrade before their drives die.
You might get a better response on content creation/workstation forums
 
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The Kingston 480GB I had bought in 2013 or so for 210 € is still holding fine: according to smartctl, I have saved 17,6 TB (and loaded 13,5 :D ) - yes I'm one who reinstalls often

Then there is a 120 GB one that I bought this year which caught fire after 2 uses, but I don't think it's related to flash endurance :P
 
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My desktop ssd's I got for free
First gen Sandisk 120GB

Then got another free ssd
WD Blue 1TB ssd

And a few other ssd's I bought for old laptops and such
A couple of ADATA 120GB and 250GB


Havnt had any problems thus far with anything dying.
 
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SSD have become much more reliable than a magnetic HDD. Most manufacturers offer 5 years warranty, but practically they will last probably forever (until it becomes much much obsolete).

I'm using SSD for my laptop and my PS4. I'll never go back to HDD.

Soon SSD will have more storage size (2TB, 4TB, 8TB...) and will become much cheaper. HDD will soon offer no more advantage over SSD and will be extinct like a floppy disk.
 
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I have a couple of SSDs lying around:

1. The first SSD I got around 2012 where I paid about 200 euros for a 120GB Intel drive.
2. Second SSD I got a couple of years later when the Intel SSD had started feeling insufficient as a boot drive. The replacement I got was a 250GB Samsung 850 Evo. The Intel SSD got the honor to be moved into my old laptop for a very welcomed speed-boost.
3. While it was nice that my old laptop had gotten faster thanks to the SSD 120GB wasn't quite enough for my needs so I got another 120GB Samsung SSD that replaced the DVD-burner.
4. While rebuilding my desktop I took the leap and got a 512GB Intel 600p M2 NVMe. Installing Windows 7 on it was hell, but it was an incredibly fast drive.
5. Recently I also got a new 1TB Samsung 860 Evo as I needed some place to store my games on and I didn't want to buy a HDD for such a purpose.
 
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I have about 30 SSDs in several devices since 2008. I only sold a OCZ vertex2 64GB due to news of a faulty firmware/bios, but it worked fine.
all the other brands (samsung, crucial, intenso, patriot...) work also fine and no SSD died on me, yet. not even the ones I use 24/7. I killed a USB device due to "writing" overload and another one got really slow over time (didn't like the weekly windows backup images, I guess), but USB NAND is known to be much cheaper and easier to kill.

btw: I never forgot that Samsung cheated on the early 840 (non EVOs) and those get really slow over time if you do not "disk fresh" them every once in a while. newer devices got a "fix" via firmware that decreases longevity by re-writing those old cells. but nowadays I would go for the cheapest 240/250GB SSD for my operating system. the expensive NVMe models I bought never really paid off performance wise.
 
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Hello. :)

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Not sure how much value there is in comparing SSDs, but I've had a few.
My original OCZ Vertex 2 was used as a boot drive for several years until it started getting errors. Replaced it with a 1TB Sandisk drive and, after running SecureErase, used the Vertex as an external SSD where it's still working well.
My second SSD was a 500GB Samsung Evo which has always been my "game" drive, with Steam, Origin and VMs running off it.
Otherwise I've had SSDs from Crucial, Sandisk, Samsung, WD and Kingston, across various devices for friends and family.

The only drives that have completely died on me at work are Origin SSDs. I've got a drawer with 3 dead drives in them, wondering what to do with them since it seems data recovery might not be possible. I've seen 2 OCZ drives have errors but not quite dying, and a Samsung getting errors (which a SecureErase fixed).

That said, SSDs won't be completely killing HDDs for some time yet. The cost of 2TB SSDs is just far too high, where as 6TB HDDs are fairly affordable and 16TB HDDs are being announced. It'll take a long while for SSDs to catch up to that.
 
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my ssd i bought a years back going strong 840 PRO
only 13% wear after 4.2 years on time and 40TB written, the thing with it is its MLC nand which has longer life compared to TLC ssds at time. they did a great ssd test at time to see how much data ssds would die at.
this model died at 1PTB written so think got some time left lol

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Hello.:)

Update on the SSD - still 99 percent.

But some other thing concerns me:

I read about SSD´s getting "hot" on Data transfers.

Actual I transferred a little more than usual and according to CrystalDiskInfo:

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I do not often transfer Data from/to the SSD and I am honestly surprised and concerned about that high temperature.:(

Thank you for reading.:)
 

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"my FIRST SSD has a new life in my PC."

*proceeds to worry about everything*

Fairly normal there. You will go through doing everything like disabling logs, minimising writes, disabling auto defrag, doing whatever TRIM stuff wants doing these days and more besides. It will take a few months and then it will wear off and become another drive, one in a long line of the things. All that will change here is if it does decide to die then you will likely not get an auditory warning like a click of death or dodgy spin up in a spinning rust drive.

As mentioned consumer grade SSDs are pretty reliable in normal person use and will likely be more than obsolete before it pops its clogs. Of the dozens I have put into service I had two die in the same laptop, which I later found had a hard drive controller that killed just about everything you put in it.
 
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"my FIRST SSD has a new life in my PC."

*proceeds to worry about everything*

Fairly normal there. You will go through doing everything like disabling logs, minimising writes, disabling auto defrag, doing whatever TRIM stuff wants doing these days and more besides. It will take a few months and then it will wear off and become another drive, one in a long line of the things. All that will change here is if it does decide to die then you will likely not get an auditory warning like a click of death or dodgy spin up in a spinning rust drive.

As mentioned consumer grade SSDs are pretty reliable in normal person use and will likely be more than obsolete before it pops its clogs. Of the dozens I have put into service I had two die in the same laptop, which I later found had a hard drive controller that killed just about everything you put in it.

Thank you,fellow Wise storyteller who has now given me all the true facts.:D

This technology is still very "new" to me as a person who grew up with SCSI and much later IDE and learned to "trust" this technique. I can seldom remember a "deceased" important HDD.

It remains this one isolated and last question in the (PC) room stand:
Should I still trust "this Thing" ? :rofl2:

Thank you @FAST6191 ,I am thankful from every answer from you and appreciate your professionally competent and very helpful explanations.:):bow:
 

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Hello.:)

Today,since 3 hours,my FIRST SSD has a new life in my PC.
Used as Systemdrive C it´s really faster than all HDDs i´ve used before.

It´s an Crucial BX 500 3D NAND with 480 GB and the manufacturer guaranteed 120 TBs.
As reading in the Internet/Test says,this value can be by far "crucial" higher.

What are YOUR experiences with the "LIFE" of this HDDs ? Thank you for your feedback.:)
Crucial are generally pretty good.
In SSD lifetime tests done, the drives all far outlive their rated TBW (TB writes), so I wouldn't worry.
120 TB might not sound like much, but my 120GB Intel SSD after 7 years had only about 20 TBW. I then replaced it with a 500GB Crucial MX500 because 120GB is just not enough and I was getting to the point where I was no longer able to delete enough stuff to install larger Windows updates. But at this rate, that drive would probably be good for another 20 years, even though early SSDs had lower expected lifetime.
"my FIRST SSD has a new life in my PC."

*proceeds to worry about everything*

Fairly normal there. You will go through doing everything like disabling logs, minimising writes, disabling auto defrag, doing whatever TRIM stuff wants doing these days and more besides. It will take a few months and then it will wear off and become another drive, one in a long line of the things. All that will change here is if it does decide to die then you will likely not get an auditory warning like a click of death or dodgy spin up in a spinning rust drive.

As mentioned consumer grade SSDs are pretty reliable in normal person use and will likely be more than obsolete before it pops its clogs. Of the dozens I have put into service I had two die in the same laptop, which I later found had a hard drive controller that killed just about everything you put in it.
My failed/failing drives never had an auditory warning. Although one had a lot of red flashing warning lights all over complaining about failed SMART tests (too many reallocated sectors), that drive still works fine, it just slows down Windows with all the I/O waits.
The other one decided to just one day not boot up anymore, the Windows setup would freeze when I tried to reinstall Windows, and even when booted from a BartPE Live CD Explorer would freeze trying to access the drive and everything ran extremely slowly due to I/O waits. I was able to recover all the data from it though.
Just remembered I had a third drive and that one did make some weird sounds... Still worked okay for a while until it died completely, that one I wasn't able to recover any data from. And all it took was me in a moment of not thinking dropping it onto my bed about 50 cm onto the blanket. Ever since then it never worked quite right.
 
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SSDs are great just don't defrag them and try to leave atleast 10-15% of the drive free as they can slow down otherwise.
other than those two things I've had great experiences (I've never defragged an ssd)
 
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Crucial are generally pretty good.
In SSD lifetime tests done, the drives all far outlive their rated TBW (TB writes), so I wouldn't worry.
120 TB might not sound like much, but my 120GB Intel SSD after 7 years had only about 20 TBW. I then replaced it with a 500GB Crucial MX500 because 120GB is just not enough and I was getting to the point where I was no longer able to delete enough stuff to install larger Windows updates. But at this rate, that drive would probably be good for another 20 years, even though early SSDs had lower expected lifetime.

Thank you.:)

I was quite very surprised about that high temperature of 60°.:huh:
I copied about 50 GB on Data and noticed,that my Mouse pointer stucks sometimes...
Yes,I have an old System but still reliable,usable and fast.:)

https://gbatemp.net/entry/the-pc-is-doing-a-good-job-since-2010.15920/
 
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