Sony working on PS2 backwards compatibility for PS4



With the release of the PS4 Star Wars: Battlefront bundle came an interesting discovery. Some of the bonus games in the bundle (Star Wars: Racer Revenge, Star Wars: Jedi Starfighter, and Star Wars: Bounty Hunter) aren't just remasters, nor just direct ports. It seems that they're run via an emulator on the PS4, allowing PS2 games to run at a higher framerate and resolution compared to their original releases. An article from Wired reports that Sony is confirmed to be, "working on utilizing PS2 emulation technology to bring PS2 games forward to the current generation."

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Sony WILL try to force people to re-buy them, just like they already did on the PS3, to ensure the laziest ports possible (looking squarely at you, God of War Collection).

This. Sony had the golden opportunity to allow their PS3 users back then to simply use the PS2 discs to enable the emulation of X game but instead they charged for each and every one of them. I really doubt Sony will be any different this time around and folks around here are just building up excitement that likely will end up in a grand disappointment.
 
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but yeah the ps2 should be able to handle the emulation of these system, assuming the drive can even read these formats. If it cannot than there always digital versions
I've been hearing this over and over and over again, but does anyone actually has actual data that hardware for some reason can't play CDs anymore or if it just "Durr, I put audio CD there and it didn't work, hurr, and PS1 game said unsupported media" comments?

Great news but kinda confused for the moment ever since Digital Foundry said the PS2 emulation has increase resolution? Do you think this would also apply if Sony were to support the disc format?
If it's legit emulation, then games should be identical no matter where they are from (outside some minor cosmetic data for consoles UI with digital version so you can see what game it is).

To be honest, I've had nothing but trouble with PS2 emulation over the past few years; it's just a big pain for me.
An official emulator from Sony wouldn't be as problematic considering they know their own hardware inside and out.
Oh yeah, this is exactly why I'm excited about this!
It's much easier to just sit on sofa, boot up the game and everything works. Of course emulation is still viable way to play the titles, but it does require some setting up and is not living room friendly.

This. Sony had the golden opportunity to allow their PS3 users back then to simply use the PS2 discs to enable the emulation of X game but instead they charged for each and every one of them. I really doubt Sony will be any different this time around and folks around here are just building up excitement that likely will end up in a grand disappointment.
I'm assuming situation being slightly differend. With PS3, PS2 was still being manufactured and sold and PS3 model with backwards compatibility was a thing, after years passed those were out from the game, so cherry picked PS2 classic titles made it easy to make sure that game worked perfectly and generally keep things under control.
Now they have much more powerful system and much more knowledge how to emulate PS2 and consumers who have tons of PS2 games and ways to play them decreases all the time as old hardware keeps getting broken (and of course Sony can't rely on emulators on PC).

Of course they can take the somewhat douchebag way of selling PS2 games under same "PS2 classic" title as crossbuy with PS3 and trough Playstation Now. People without physical games will buy the games happily either way, but that group with already physical games gets mad and they would lose potential console buyer because even if they are really old games, that does significantly raise PS4 value for some consumers.
 

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I would disagree. Being able to use discs might not lead to an increase in sales since these discs are still floating around between resellers. But it would help drive console sales for those people who already have a PS2 library around, and who are into retrogaming. It would also completely taking a shit on Microsoft's "retrogame" plan by essentially making hundreds of games (instead of the 60 or so Xbox classics) instantly playable as well as available through their online store. Leading into the holiday season, anything that pushes people into buying the console ends up being an important thing in terms of market share.
Anyone who has a sizeable PS2 library and/or is into "retrogaming" would already have a PS2, so the point is moot. No one's going to buy a $300+ console when they could just buy a PS2, or use the one they still have.
 

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Anyone who has a sizeable PS2 library and/or is into "retrogaming" would already have a PS2, so the point is moot. No one's going to buy a $300+ console when they could just buy a PS2, or use the one they still have.
Problem is when you're like me, when you already went through about three of them before finding one that wouldn't intentionally damage discs, and that was when they were being actively produced.

One big reason that I appreciate(d) the BC factor of the original PS3's, is because it seemed eventual certainty that my last PS2 would die, and then I'd have no way to play those games without going through the crapshoot to find another again. Ironically, it was the process of getting it modchipped that enabled reinforcing to allow that PS2 to still work, but thanks to the Cobra-enabled CFW on said PS3, I technically have no more need for the PS2 to play my collection.

Having a reliable, all-in-one solution, cannot be understated. And one that does a good job of scaling for newer TV's? all the better.
 
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Well Sony direction of Port's of remaster from these past years, and not really doing Game's has led me to believe that they might support Disc so it seems like a good thing but na that's to much to ask from them so hopefully I'll get my request.

I'm pretty sure if this were to happen it will probably be half and half in term's regarding to what type of games it would support for Disc. Obviously it would be Sony most Popular titles and not those underrated titles like The Suffering or Area 51 so yeah....
 

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I've got a pipe dream hope that they might one day port it to the Vita, in line with how the PSP could play PS1 games. Make the Vita into a portable PS2 and it'd be flying off the shelves. Of course, with how Sony have all but abandoned it, I'd be surprised if it's ever even hinted at as a suggestion by Sony.
If this happens I would buy both 1000 and 2000 Vita to experience both amoled and LCD side by side :). I don't care for vita games I want to play ps2 on the go.
 

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Hate to be "that guy" but Sony is going to do what they did on the ps3 and make you repurchase them digitally on the PSN. Sony isn't in any position to answer to M$ regards to backwards compatibility. And they won't.

Basically you can put your PS2 disks back in storage or dust off your ps2

The way Sony's stance on next gen backwards compatibility with premium cloud services, i doubt they will bend over backwards for disks to work.
 
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And at no extra fee.

The cost of a PC capable of running PCSX2 decently is a pretty high fee. Not everyone has some "PC master race" gaming system just lying around already.

Also there's a BIG time cost messing with the configurations and settings PCSX2 isn't just turn it on and go.

I'm not knocking PCSX2, I'm glad it exists, but it's not a solution for everyone.
 
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The cost of a PC capable of running PCSX2 decently is a pretty high fee. Not everyone has some "PC master race" gaming system just lying around already.

Also there's a BIG time cost messing with the configurations and settings PCSX2 isn't just turn it on and go.

I'm not knocking PCSX2, I'm glad it exists, but it's not a solution for everyone.
Big time cost? The initial setup can be done rather quickly, and it doesn't take long to make individual profiles for games to have the most efficient settings for them, especially since the wiki has a guide for practically every game.
 

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Big time cost? The initial setup can be done rather quickly, and it doesn't take long to make individual profiles for games to have the most efficient settings for them, especially since the wiki has a guide for practically every game.
That's assuming everything works correctly every time.

Everyone said the same thing about ePSXe for PS1 emulation, but I could never get it to work more than once, ever. The only emulator for the PS1 games that did work consistently is the older but simpler pSX.
 

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The cost of a PC capable of running PCSX2 decently is a pretty high fee. Not everyone has some "PC master race" gaming system just lying around already.

Also there's a BIG time cost messing with the configurations and settings PCSX2 isn't just turn it on and go.

I'm not knocking PCSX2, I'm glad it exists, but it's not a solution for everyone.
I ran PCSX2 just fine on my old Dell Optiplex 755 with a Core 2 Duo and GTX 650 with 8GB of RAM.
Most people already have a computer capable enough for PCSX2 or at least one that could be capable with a budget video card dropped in.
 

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Some rather dodgy news
"According to current reports - based on what appears to be an accidentally posted trailer for PS2 game Dark Cloud running on PS4 - neither discs nor PS2 Classics purchases will be supported.

...a blurb running under the trailer on YouTube, which has now been pulled, included the line "PS2 Classics and PS2-formatted discs are incompatible with the PS4 system."

The blurb for Dark Cloud also mentions other known features of PS4's PS2 emulator, including 1080p rendering and Trophy support, as well as some more welcome new details: the emulator appears to support Remote Play, Share Play, and game manuals displayed on a second screen."

Unconfirmed, and hopefully soon to be debunked, but if true they can royally flock off! Discs not supported, fair enough, wasn't expecting that anyway.. but your PS2 Classics downloads?! Bit greedy there Sony..
 
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