Sony: 'We will fix' PS3 hack with updates

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  1. heartgold
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    http://www.videogamer.com/news/sony_we_wil...th_updates.html

    SONY SONY SONY lol, lets see if you can [​IMG] You failed dreadfully.
     


  2. RupeeClock

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    Game of cat and mouse indeed, it doesn't really matter what firmware updates they put out, it's certain they will be hacked because of how easily they can be decrypted now.

    It's definitely just a bluff, Sony can't really do much if hackers possess their master/private keys, all they can really do is try to save face in the eye of the public.
     
  3. T-hug

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    Don't accept network updates, don't install forced game updates.
    Derp.
     
  4. Clydefrosch

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    Now, shush, shouldn't underestimate what people can do with a few hundred million dollar worth of software engeniers.

    Its now going to be weekly updates and cat and mouse games I'd guess
     
  5. RupeeClock

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    Don't underestimate the stupidity of a few hundred million dollars worth of software engineers either.
    These are the same guys who encrypted their keys with a random number generator that returns the same result.
     
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    Sony will do something drastic to attempt to stop it and end up f***ing the whole console up, like disabling the entire usb slots or not allowing updates from flash-able media. Or they could just make a new PS4 with a private key that actually uses a random number for there algorithms.
     
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    Hmm!

    Interesting development!

    This might be very fun to watch...this battle between Sony and the hackers. [​IMG]
     
  8. KirovAir

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    They can not fix it. We can decrypt every firmware update, modify it, and continue loading backups.
    They can probably create a white list of all hashes, en make only those available. But we can decrypt the nand, add homebrew to the white list, and coninue running homebrew.
    They can't possibly change the root key, without making a complete new hardware revision, which needs a separate firmware.
    Sony is fucked, and they know it.
     
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    Fuck yeah!!
     
  10. Tonitonichopchop

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    I have only one thing to say to Sony.

    "No."
     
  11. SamAsh07

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    I feel sorry for them, but this was inevitable....since Sony themselves placed a challenge on the hackers by saying "this console is unhackable"
     
  12. RupeeClock

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    Not so much, their actual motivation was the removal of OtherOS.
     
  13. FAST6191

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    My pet theory here having seen such things before is something along the lines of- Boss- send the source code for evaluation but do not send the keys (anyone can generate keys just to test) Response- yeah that looks pretty good, give it some good keys and you will be set maybe coupled with (over)confidence regarding cell and the hypervisor. Granted it does little to excuse the rest of the security issues as covered in the video and the PSP stuff.

    Anyhow this response seems to be two fold in my head
    1) Investor reassurance- you spend ? years and a great deal of effort on the part of your PR teams declaring hackers, pirates and co the scum of the universe you tend to get a few people believing it. Granted this division is not necessarily the biggest earner and nothing seems to have happened yet (unless it was masked by CES and to be fair they have had a fairly good showing there)- come April (or other financially important points in the year) and/or releases of the inevitable loaders it would be interesting to see the change.
    2) They are going to be trying their hardest on the PSN front to keep it sane there- this is well within reason.

    They might be able to implement some workarounds in software but given we own the hardware before it and at some level some stuff can not be revoked or even changed it just means extra work on the part of a hackers.

    Re DSi stuff comparing consoles between each other is a tricky game and not one to be done lightly, perhaps you might read http://hackmii.com/2010/02/lawsuit-coming-in-3-2-1/
    Long story short Nintendo did OK with the update but they forgot to verify one of the code sources (overlays) so all it took was finding an old rom that jumped to the overlay early in the run time which given you only boot once per cycle is perhaps not that tricky.
     
  14. easycrashing

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    They're just trying to make game developers happy.
     
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    nice try sony but your fucked [​IMG]
     
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    if a common key from PS3 and PSP is out, then it's either Sony blocking other retail users (and having a system being hack-proof made a lot of retail users imo) or either allowing all hackers to play game backups on their system, they can't go further then that, either way, don't install updates unchecked by other users and you are done with "protection" against Sony regarding this matter, I think some of the PS3 hackers might try to hack the 3DS now, since the PS3 is already hacked
     
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    Pls. no.Not yet and it's still very early.We might see a PSP redux. [​IMG]
     
  18. RNorthex

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    heard it not so long ago

    they deserved it, in 101%
    next time, release a friggin console that's not twice as much as a wii and stop hating, sony....

    the irony in it though, is that sony had "massive developement" against piracy on the ps3
    long live nintendo and microsoft[even apple]
     
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    Good Try Sony, but no [​IMG]
     
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    Isn't it nice try [​IMG] ?

    OT: I don't believe Sony will ever be able to fully fix this. And frankly, that isn't such good news for PS3 owners IMHO.
    They will start to release crazy DRM protection, just like EA is already doing, not to mention this gives Sony the motivation to start on the PS4 already and make that an even crazier protected system. And them focusing on the PS4 can't be good news for the PS3 owners, they'll get neglected because they Sony can't maximize their profit anymore.