Sony Sued for PSN Security Breach

I'm not quite sure if Sony deserves this as much as whoever hacked the system. It seems like we're all just a little angry and we just want someone to pay. Sony has sloppy security, true, but it seems like no one just wants the hacker who did this to pay. He's the dickbag whose stealing your info, he's the dickbag that's shutting down the PSN. Sony's doing it's best job to stop this from happening again. It's their fault for having shit security but it's more of the hacker's fault for being a dick and stealing information and hurting the network.

If anything we should just let Sony be and let them use this chance to be stronger. It's better than getting the pitchforks and torches and hoping we'll drive Sony into the ground.

I'm sure in an alternate universe where this happened to Nintendo and not Sony, we'd all be singing a different tune then "BURN THEM TO THE FUCKING GROUND".
 
Guild McCommunist said:
I'm not quite sure if Sony deserves this as much as whoever hacked the system. It seems like we're all just a little angry and we just want someone to pay. Sony has sloppy security, true, but it seems like no one just wants the hacker who did this to pay. He's the dickbag whose stealing your info, he's the dickbag that's shutting down the PSN. Sony's doing it's best job to stop this from happening again. It's their fault for having shit security but it's more of the hacker's fault for being a dick and stealing information and hurting the network.

If anything we should just let Sony be and let them use this chance to be stronger. It's better than getting the pitchforks and torches and hoping we'll drive Sony into the ground.

I'm sure in an alternate universe where this happened to Nintendo and not Sony, we'd all be singing a different tune then "BURN THEM TO THE FUCKING GROUND".
QFT, because say what you want about Guild, but this is all very true IMO.
 
Guild McCommunist said:
I'm not quite sure if Sony deserves this as much as whoever hacked the system. It seems like we're all just a little angry and we just want someone to pay. Sony has sloppy security, true, but it seems like no one just wants the hacker who did this to pay. He's the dickbag whose stealing your info, he's the dickbag that's shutting down the PSN. Sony's doing it's best job to stop this from happening again. It's their fault for having shit security but it's more of the hacker's fault for being a dick and stealing information and hurting the network.

If anything we should just let Sony be and let them use this chance to be stronger. It's better than getting the pitchforks and torches and hoping we'll drive Sony into the ground.

I'm sure in an alternate universe where this happened to Nintendo and not Sony, we'd all be singing a different tune then "BURN THEM TO THE FUCKING GROUND".

Nintendo Hasn't done as much as Sony to screw the consumer either. If it were Microsoft though, I would still say go for it.

Sony systematically shut down Lik-Sang...my one stop shop for everything imported, and for that I can never forgive them.
 
TwinRetro said:
Nintendo Hasn't done as much as Sony to screw the consumer either. If it were Microsoft though, I would still say go for it.

Sony systematically shut down Lik-Sang...my one stop shop for everything imported, and for that I can never forgive them.

Well it just seems like you have a personal grudge then. I'm just trying to look at this as it is.

And whether Nintendo has been "screwing" consumers is something up for debate. Not here of course, but I'd say every company is guilty to some extent of abusing consumer trust.
 
Guild McCommunist said:
I'm not quite sure if Sony deserves this as much as whoever hacked the system. It seems like we're all just a little angry and we just want someone to pay. Sony has sloppy security, true, but it seems like no one just wants the hacker who did this to pay. He's the dickbag whose stealing your info, he's the dickbag that's shutting down the PSN. Sony's doing it's best job to stop this from happening again. It's their fault for having shit security but it's more of the hacker's fault for being a dick and stealing information and hurting the network.

If anything we should just let Sony be and let them use this chance to be stronger. It's better than getting the pitchforks and torches and hoping we'll drive Sony into the ground.

I'm sure in an alternate universe where this happened to Nintendo and not Sony, we'd all be singing a different tune then "BURN THEM TO THE FUCKING GROUND".
Sony needs some work on their customer relations.
 
Guild McCommunist said:
TwinRetro said:
Nintendo Hasn't done as much as Sony to screw the consumer either. If it were Microsoft though, I would still say go for it.

Sony systematically shut down Lik-Sang...my one stop shop for everything imported, and for that I can never forgive them.

Well it just seems like you have a personal grudge then. I'm just trying to look at this as it is.

And whether Nintendo has been "screwing" consumers is something up for debate. Not here of course, but I'd say every company is guilty to some extent of abusing consumer trust.

Calling it a grudge would be an understatement, but I digress.

I do have a bias against Sony. I hope they get everything back tenfold.
 
I really do feel bad for Sony at this point. Yeah, in a way, they brought it on themselves, karma and all that bullshit...but really...all people are using them getting hacked is to tear them down... Anything can be hacked. This is not the first time something like this has happened. Credit card information gets stolen all the time. It's nothing new. That personal info? Guess what. Didn't Nintendo just get hacked recently? And weren't at least half of the people saying they deserved it?

Let's face it. You people just want to throw blame around like it's nothing. This whole PSN getting hacked problem? It could take Sony down permanently across everything they do. We get hit by that as well. PSN is gone. Playstation, a staple gaming brand for a LONG TIME, is gone. Then you either choose between Nintendo's subpar online services, or Microsoft's Pay-To-Play+DLC+Everywhere. Do you really want no middle ground? Or rather, do you want APPLE to try their hand? You thought $600 for a PS3 that dropped by...what...half the price within a year? to become Apple gaming systems that NEVER drop in price and get popular because of Apple being little more then trends?

Sony was stupid for some of the stuff they've been doing. This lawsuit, though? It's just beating a dying horse...
 
It doesn't bother me that someone stole data, (shit happens), as much as it does that this could have and with any fucking common sense would have been prevented had Sony done some decent encryption. But no, far be it from them to keep shit secure. Its almost as if they aren't trying anymore, a retarded 8 year old could've told them that keeping personal info in plain text is beyond stupid. Glad I don't trust my personal info with Sony.
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BTW: I'm not bashing Sony for a data breach, I'm bashing them because they aren't competent at security and have a track record of not thinking/caring about the consumer.
 
SoulSnatcher said:
TwinRetro said:
It doesn't matter...Consumers "lent" their data to Sony, Sony is responsible if that data is compromised. There are very few things that are so black and white.
They also had to agree with PSN's terms and conditions before going on the network.

It says in the terms and conditions that Sony is
CODEnot liable for any loss of data or any “unauthorized access,” to said data when using Sony Online Network.

If they were worried, they shouldn't have signed up for PSN.
You're interpreting that wrong.
That means access to things like your account/stats.
Not your credit card information and other such things.
 
Funny how everyone is saying Sony deserves this, which is pretty true, but everyone seems to be forgetting that in the end, the Playstation users will be screwed.

If this whole situation leads to Sony ending up dead, we won't have any support for the PS3 anymore. And what developer will want to release games for a dead console?

Seriously guys, blame Sony all you want, but also think about the millions of PS3 users, who have nothing to do with any of this.
 
jorpor said:
Funny how everyone is saying Sony deserves this, which is pretty true, but everyone seems to be forgetting that in the end, the Playstation users will be screwed.

If this whole situation leads to Sony ending up dead, we won't have any support for the PS3 anymore. And what developer will want to release games for a dead console?

Seriously guys, blame Sony all you want, but also think about the millions of PS3 users, who have nothing to do with any of this.


Maybe it's all for the better. Sony dies, another company will take it's place. I think it's about time for some new blood in the console wars.
 
This is *exactly* what we need to make the situation better.

Because Sony admins don't have enough work to do to enhance security measures and re-boot the system. They need to send data to courts, otherwise they'd die of boredom. *NO* data loss or capture is confirmed, there is only a *possibility* that it occoured, which ALWAYS exists.

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jorpor said:
Funny how everyone is saying Sony deserves this, which is pretty true, but everyone seems to be forgetting that in the end, the Playstation users will be screwed.

If this whole situation leads to Sony ending up dead, we won't have any support for the PS3 anymore. And what developer will want to release games for a dead console?

Seriously guys, blame Sony all you want, but also think about the millions of PS3 users, who have nothing to do with any of this.
Umm... wut.

You act as if that would kill games forever. If Playstation dies, devs start publishing their old exclusives on Xbox, Nintendo or PC. And all you lose is your brand loyalty. PS3 is on the way out anyway.

Hells yes, Sony deserves this. They're about to get raped and I don't care one bit.
 
jorpor said:
If this whole situation leads to Sony ending up dead, we won't have any support for the PS3 anymore. And what developer will want to release games for a dead console?

That's hardly the worst of it. Many developers will go out of business if SCE does since most single platform games don't net enough of a profit. If third party developers start dropping like flies (even moreso than they already have been), then the entire gaming market is essentially screwed because Microsoft isn't going to stick with a sinking ship and Nintendo can't save it a second time.

So, really, all these "innocent" hackers may have signed the death warrant for the entire industry and yet everyone here seems to want this to happen.
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ball2012003 said:
Sheimi said:
Sony deserved it. *grabs popcorn and watches*
And why is that?
It is the hackers fault and no one else.

It may be the hacker's fault, but it's also Sony's fault.

If I have all of my friend's info in a taped cardboard box, and you decide to open it and steal the data, I was still in possession of the data when it was stolen, meaning I am responsible for the theft of it, and you are responsible for whatever you do with that data.

Funny how the law works, eh?
 

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