Sony Sued for PSN Security Breach

[ShadowSoldier]

Doesn't make any sense.

It isn't Sony's fault that they got hacked. A hacker with malicious intents did it. Hopefully, the plaintiff doesn't succeed.

You do realize that if Sony actually had security and encrypted personal data, the hacker would have had A LOT of trouble of viewing it. But no, they basically put up a piece of paper that "this is a thick wall" written on it. So the hacker to scissors to it. That's all this basically is.

 

[Deleted_171835]

Doesn't make any sense.

It isn't Sony's fault that they got hacked. A hacker with malicious intents did it. Hopefully, the plaintiff doesn't succeed.

It's Sony's fault for not having beefier security.

Let's say I'm borrowing a Nintendo DS from a friend and I lock the door, yet leave the window open...the thief crawls through the window and steals my friend's DS. By law, I am responsible for his DS the moment he lends it to me, no matter what kind of security I had on my house.

Horrible analogy.

Anyways, how can you blame Sony for PSN getting hacked?
Do you expect Sony to predict the future and patch all vulnerabilities before they get exploited?

If there's anyone you should be mad at, it's the hacker.

 

[KingVamp]

They sued GeoHot and now they're being sued.
That the thing, this event like it was written in a book...

Someone get some writers.

Doesn't make any sense.

It isn't Sony's fault that they got hacked. A hacker with malicious intents did it. Hopefully, the plaintiff doesn't succeed.

It's Sony's fault for not having beefier security. Sony is responsible for keeping a customer's info safe. Sony is also responsible if that information gets into the hands of someone the consumer did not consent to.

Let's say I'm borrowing a Nintendo DS from a friend and I lock the door, yet leave the window open...the thief crawls through the window and steals my friend's DS. By law, I am responsible for his DS the moment he lends it to me, no matter what kind of security I had on my house.

I think it Sony and the hackers fault (not like the hackers like GeoHot which idk why some people trying to bring him into this).

Sony for letting the window up and the hackers for going in.

QUOTE(zeromac @ Apr 27 2011, 04:21 PM)

Thought I would double post just to say that I'm watching the morning news and their reporting about the hack and their getting the facts wrong.. Their saying CC details were stolen. It is presumed they were stolen. No actually evidence yet..

Fucking media

See.

 

[zeromac]

Thought I would double post just to say that I'm watching the morning news and their reporting about the hack and their getting the facts wrong.. Their saying CC details were stolen. It is presumed they were stolen. No actually evidence yet..

Fucking media

 

[omgpwn666]

Doesn't make any sense.

It isn't Sony's fault that they got hacked. A hacker with malicious intents did it. Hopefully, the plaintiff doesn't succeed.

It's Sony's fault for not having beefier security. Sony is responsible for keeping a customer's info safe. Sony is also responsible if that information gets into the hands of someone the consumer did not consent to.

Let's say I'm borrowing a Nintendo DS from a friend and I lock the door, yet leave the window open...the thief crawls through the window and steals my friend's DS. By law, I am responsible for his DS the moment he lends it to me, no matter what kind of security I had on my house.

If Sony had the beefiest of security and hackers hacked them people would say ,"they need beefier security". You can never win because people will always talk shit. The forums are equivalent to the graffiti on the restroom walls.

 

[Deleted_171835]

Doesn't make any sense.

It isn't Sony's fault that they got hacked. A hacker with malicious intents did it. Hopefully, the plaintiff doesn't succeed.

You do realize that if Sony actually had security and encrypted personal data, the hacker would have had A LOT of trouble of viewing it. But no, they basically put up a piece of paper that "this is a thick wall" written on it. So the hacker to scissors to it. That's all this basically is.

Sucks for them.

Nobody forced anyone to sign up for PSN or get a PS3.
If you're worried about shit like that, don't buy a PS3.

Simple as that.

 

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[MelodieOctavia]

Doesn't make any sense.

It isn't Sony's fault that they got hacked. A hacker with malicious intents did it. Hopefully, the plaintiff doesn't succeed.

It's Sony's fault for not having beefier security.

Let's say I'm borrowing a Nintendo DS from a friend and I lock the door, yet leave the window open...the thief crawls through the window and steals my friend's DS. By law, I am responsible for his DS the moment he lends it to me, no matter what kind of security I had on my house.

Horrible analogy.

Anyways, how can you blame Sony for PSN getting hacked?
Do you expect Sony to predict the future and patch all vulnerabilities before they get exploited?

If there's anyone you should be mad at, it's the hacker.

It doesn't matter...Consumers "lent" their data to Sony, Sony is responsible if that data is compromised. There are very few things that are so black and white.

 

[BasedKiliK]

Doesn't make any sense.

It isn't Sony's fault that they got hacked. A hacker with malicious intents did it. Hopefully, the plaintiff doesn't succeed.

It's Sony's fault for not having beefier security. Sony is responsible for keeping a customer's info safe. Sony is also responsible if that information gets into the hands of someone the consumer did not consent to.

Let's say I'm borrowing a Nintendo DS from a friend and I lock the door, yet leave the window open...the thief crawls through the window and steals my friend's DS. By law, I am responsible for his DS the moment he lends it to me, no matter what kind of security I had on my house.

If Sony had the beefiest of security and hackers hacked them people would say ,"they need beefier security". You can never win because people will always talk shit. The forums are equivalent to the graffiti on the restroom walls.

The fact is that they put almost no effort into securing their system. All that info was literally just sitting in there unencrypted for anyone to see if they put a little effort into punching through.

 

[Bladexdsl]

oh well so much for the ps4 i don't think sony will be coming back next gen

 

[twiztidsinz]

Dear Sony,
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That is all.

 

[Nujui]

Sony really failed hard this time...

Do you guys think this could be the end of Sony?

Not really.

They're multi billion dollar company. I don't think this lawsuit will hurt them enough to do that.

Enough to drastically change them.

It will do that for sure, but not enough to end them. That's what I meant.

 

[Wizerzak]

I presume the hackers know that Sony will have to pay people their money back, that's why they did it. To get sony back for everything they've done. That way the consumers are safe (99%) and they can watch people sue the crap out of sony.

 

[ShadowSoldier]

Doesn't make any sense.

It isn't Sony's fault that they got hacked. A hacker with malicious intents did it. Hopefully, the plaintiff doesn't succeed.

You do realize that if Sony actually had security and encrypted personal data, the hacker would have had A LOT of trouble of viewing it. But no, they basically put up a piece of paper that "this is a thick wall" written on it. So the hacker to scissors to it. That's all this basically is.

Sucks for them.

Nobody forced anyone to sign up for PSN or get a PS3.
If you're worried about shit like that, don't buy a PS3.

Simple as that.

Uh no.

They signed an agreement with Sony, an electronic contract, that said Sony will protect user data. And clearly it didn't. This is Sony's fault for fucking up and not having actual security.

 

[omgpwn666]

Doesn't make any sense.

It isn't Sony's fault that they got hacked. A hacker with malicious intents did it. Hopefully, the plaintiff doesn't succeed.

It's Sony's fault for not having beefier security. Sony is responsible for keeping a customer's info safe. Sony is also responsible if that information gets into the hands of someone the consumer did not consent to.

Let's say I'm borrowing a Nintendo DS from a friend and I lock the door, yet leave the window open...the thief crawls through the window and steals my friend's DS. By law, I am responsible for his DS the moment he lends it to me, no matter what kind of security I had on my house.

If Sony had the beefiest of security and hackers hacked them people would say ,"they need beefier security". You can never win because people will always talk shit. The forums are equivalent to the graffiti on the restroom walls.

The fact is that they put almost no effort into securing their system. All that info was literally just sitting in there unencrypted for anyone to see if they put a little effort into punching threw.

Why did it take so long to hack the PS3 then? We're non hackers saying they should use better security, we don't know what they had going. Just because someone hacked them does not mean their security sucked.

 

[machomuu]

Doesn't make any sense.

It isn't Sony's fault that they got hacked. A hacker with malicious intents did it. Hopefully, the plaintiff doesn't succeed.

You do realize that if Sony actually had security and encrypted personal data, the hacker would have had A LOT of trouble of viewing it. But no, they basically put up a piece of paper that "this is a thick wall" written on it. So the hacker to scissors to it. That's all this basically is.

Sucks for them.

Nobody forced anyone to sign up for PSN or get a PS3.
If you're worried about shit like that, don't buy a PS3.

Simple as that.

Uh no.

They signed an agreement with Sony, an electronic contract, that said Sony will protect user data. And clearly it didn't. This is Sony's fault for fucking up and not having actual security.

Reading FTW. Just saying, people always talk about the ToA and use it as proof but I wonder how many of them actually read them.

 

[BasedKiliK]

Doesn't make any sense.

It isn't Sony's fault that they got hacked. A hacker with malicious intents did it. Hopefully, the plaintiff doesn't succeed.

You do realize that if Sony actually had security and encrypted personal data, the hacker would have had A LOT of trouble of viewing it. But no, they basically put up a piece of paper that "this is a thick wall" written on it. So the hacker to scissors to it. That's all this basically is.

Sucks for them.

Nobody forced anyone to sign up for PSN or get a PS3.
If you're worried about shit like that, don't buy a PS3.

Simple as that.

You're not supposed to be worried about anything, just sign up and enjoy. So the network getting hacked the way it did came as an outrage to many. People put their trust in Sony.

 

[MelodieOctavia]

Doesn't make any sense.

It isn't Sony's fault that they got hacked. A hacker with malicious intents did it. Hopefully, the plaintiff doesn't succeed.

It's Sony's fault for not having beefier security. Sony is responsible for keeping a customer's info safe. Sony is also responsible if that information gets into the hands of someone the consumer did not consent to.

Let's say I'm borrowing a Nintendo DS from a friend and I lock the door, yet leave the window open...the thief crawls through the window and steals my friend's DS. By law, I am responsible for his DS the moment he lends it to me, no matter what kind of security I had on my house.

If Sony had the beefiest of security and hackers hacked them people would say ,"they need beefier security". You can never win because people will always talk shit. The forums are equivalent to the graffiti on the restroom walls.

The fact is that they put almost no effort into securing their system. All that info was literally just sitting in there unencrypted for anyone to see if they put a little effort into punching threw.

Why did it take so long to hack the PS3 then? We're non hackers saying they should use better security, we don't know what they had going. Just because someone hacked them does not mean their security sucked.

We have been through this argument time and time again. Until the point that the PS3 was hacked, almost no one was interested in hacking it. It's that simple.

 

[Ikki]

Doesn't make any sense.

It isn't Sony's fault that they got hacked. A hacker with malicious intents did it. Hopefully, the plaintiff doesn't succeed.
Say, you give your credit card to a cashier, she/he puts it down on the whatever it is they have, then a guy sneaks by, takes it and gets out. Is it your fault for giving it to the cashier? Or the cashier's for being careless?

It's exactly the same situation here, just online.

Also,

QUOTE(omgpwn666 @ Apr 27 2011, 11:28 PM) Why did it take so long to hack the PS3 then? We're non hackers saying they should use better security, we don't know what they had going. Just because someone hacked them does not mean their security sucked.

This is database security, not system security. Don't bring the other security to the argument because it's not the same thing.

 

[Deleted_171835]

It doesn't matter...Consumers "lent" their data to Sony, Sony is responsible if that data is compromised. There are very few things that are so black and white.
They also had to agree with PSN's terms and conditions before going on the network.

It says in the terms and conditions that Sony is
CODEnot liable for any loss of data or any “unauthorized access,” to said data when using Sony Online Network.

If they were worried, they shouldn't have signed up for PSN.