Sony Drops "The Interview" after North Korean hack, threats
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Don't worry, someone will come here soon claiming it's all a ruse in order for America to start another war. And I thought I was paranoid.
The source in this topic does not mention the threats coming from North Korea, but if it did, I wouldn't say that evidence was flimsy since it would make a lot of sense. A movie about someone trying to assassinate their leader, they have every right to be angry, the threats are a little much, but again, they can be angry.
Jeez, guys, I'm out for the day working (and feeding my crippling Chinese cartoon addiction) and now some people are claiming this is all a massive conspiracy to start a war with North Korea.
Look, that's just wrong on a few levels. First of all, there's no good war with North Korea. The government's crazy and the people are starving, sure, but there's nothing more dangerous than a cornered animal. They've got artillery pointed at Seoul and tunnels running underground, along with one of the largest standing armies ready to go. North Korea would lose quickly, sure, but not quickly enough to prevent South Korea from suffering horrible losses. That's bad, especially when South Korea is one of the US' strongest allies in the region and a close foothold against China.
Also, on the note of China, there's China. China begrudgingly accepts North Korea not because they're happy with the country, but because it's a buffer against US influence (South Korea), with a bit of "Better the devil you know" mixed in. You think China is going to take an American advance right below their borders lightly? Do you think they'd help the US erode their buffer zone? Plus, considering how tenuous relations between the two countries can be, do you think the US is going to risk everything it has with China over, of all things, North Korea? Think again.
Finally, the last point: North Korea isn't worth it. Nobody wants North Korea. Let's say NK falls tomorrow and China lets the two Koreas unify... well, South Korea can kiss its financial standing goodbye as it has to throw all of its money into integrating with a country of uneducated, starving people living on infertile farmland. Think of all the struggles Germany has had to undergo after the Cold War and multiply it by a hundred, or maybe a thousand, and that's still probably an understatement. Fixing North Korea would be a moneysink requiring trillions of dollars and decades, at the very least, and for what? Brushing up against China's asscrack? Woopee, v for victory.
North Korea is a despotic state that murders, tortures, and starves its own people. Morally, I totally agree that those running the asylum should be deposed, tried, and sentenced for their crimes against the North Korean people. In a perfect world, we could all hold hands, walk in, and make everything right. Unfortunately, we don't live in that perfect world, and there's a million more practical matters to consider. The US has too much on its plate to somehow stage a hacking or create a coverup in order to instigate an impossible war.
Besides, North Korea instigates enough human rights abuses to justify a full-on invasion everyday. (For those with strong stomachs, google up on survivor accounts of North Korean prison camps. It sounds like they're doing their best to out-Nazi the Nazis.) If we really wanted to just invade, we could have done so already with a lot less work.
Look, what's more reasonable: The US government instigated a False Flag hack/took advantage of a hack to target James Franco's newest wacky comedy in order to rile up the country into invading the Camden of countries... or North Korea, an unstable country not known for wise spending habits, paid hackers to target the producers of a movie making fun of them, made threats as it often has in the past, and then took advantage of the publicity in an attempt to puff up its standing, as it often has in the past?
TL;DR: I'm tired but goddamn, guys, chill pills, please.
Look, that's just wrong on a few levels. First of all, there's no good war with North Korea. The government's crazy and the people are starving, sure, but there's nothing more dangerous than a cornered animal. They've got artillery pointed at Seoul and tunnels running underground, along with one of the largest standing armies ready to go. North Korea would lose quickly, sure, but not quickly enough to prevent South Korea from suffering horrible losses. That's bad, especially when South Korea is one of the US' strongest allies in the region and a close foothold against China.
Also, on the note of China, there's China. China begrudgingly accepts North Korea not because they're happy with the country, but because it's a buffer against US influence (South Korea), with a bit of "Better the devil you know" mixed in. You think China is going to take an American advance right below their borders lightly? Do you think they'd help the US erode their buffer zone? Plus, considering how tenuous relations between the two countries can be, do you think the US is going to risk everything it has with China over, of all things, North Korea? Think again.
Finally, the last point: North Korea isn't worth it. Nobody wants North Korea. Let's say NK falls tomorrow and China lets the two Koreas unify... well, South Korea can kiss its financial standing goodbye as it has to throw all of its money into integrating with a country of uneducated, starving people living on infertile farmland. Think of all the struggles Germany has had to undergo after the Cold War and multiply it by a hundred, or maybe a thousand, and that's still probably an understatement. Fixing North Korea would be a moneysink requiring trillions of dollars and decades, at the very least, and for what? Brushing up against China's asscrack? Woopee, v for victory.
North Korea is a despotic state that murders, tortures, and starves its own people. Morally, I totally agree that those running the asylum should be deposed, tried, and sentenced for their crimes against the North Korean people. In a perfect world, we could all hold hands, walk in, and make everything right. Unfortunately, we don't live in that perfect world, and there's a million more practical matters to consider. The US has too much on its plate to somehow stage a hacking or create a coverup in order to instigate an impossible war.
Besides, North Korea instigates enough human rights abuses to justify a full-on invasion everyday. (For those with strong stomachs, google up on survivor accounts of North Korean prison camps. It sounds like they're doing their best to out-Nazi the Nazis.) If we really wanted to just invade, we could have done so already with a lot less work.
Look, what's more reasonable: The US government instigated a False Flag hack/took advantage of a hack to target James Franco's newest wacky comedy in order to rile up the country into invading the Camden of countries... or North Korea, an unstable country not known for wise spending habits, paid hackers to target the producers of a movie making fun of them, made threats as it often has in the past, and then took advantage of the publicity in an attempt to puff up its standing, as it often has in the past?
TL;DR: I'm tired but goddamn, guys, chill pills, please.
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Wow, not releasing the movie in theater because of a hack and some dumb treat . . .
The USA still hasnt recovered from all the damage Bush has done or so it seems . . .
The USA still hasnt recovered from all the damage Bush has done or so it seems . . .
Some cinemas were going to screen Team America instead of The Interview, in protest, but apparently Paramount is pulling Team America from release as well.
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Well he kinda stirred the bees nest and made things worse by waging war on terrorism and stripping american of lots of their freedom, even canada had to spend billions on airport security so no one can try highjacking a plane with a jar of nutella or a nail filler lol.
He used paranoia to achieve his personal agenda and the population is slowly recovering from these events and are waking up on how the government has passed lots of laws taking away ppl's freedom since 9/11.
So to me it seems USA is still scared of terrorism (cyber in this case) and empty treat thx to Bush and his scare tactics . . .
anyways, not trying to start anything here but that guy damaged you country so much that it hasnt completely recovered yet.
We haven't "recovered" because we haven't tried to. Obama came in preaching hope and change, but he pretty much doubled down on all of those policies. The true fault lies not with Bush or Obama, but with the people who voted both of them into office twice (and the political parties who provided little in the way of viable alternatives).
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Honestly the fact that a hack of a media company is considered a political issue is hilarious to me personally.
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True, government is voted by the people so its basically the people's fault. Although some people always fail to see through lies and are told what and how to think by others and/or the medias . . .
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When a foreign country is trying to influence your market with threats of aggression, it's a political issue.
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The market of movies is more than just the interview and I know this may affect ticket sales but if the MPAA's lobbying power wasn't so strong they wouldn't make this an issue
So having another country dictate your market freedoms with threats and attacks is okay if the amount of money involved isn't big? What amount is big enough? Where do you draw the line?
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First off its america that is dictating the freedom as they didnt have to listen to NK threats
Secondly a market Is larger than just that one movie if it had been more than it would be different
Ultimately it is the American government's fault that the interview isn't in theaters
Where do you draw the line?
Lol wut? That makes no kind of sense whatsoever. No, really. It's completely backwards.
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