Sony: Dead in the water

[Ace Gunman]

Heh, no, no one hurt my feelings. It's actually really difficult to do that. It's more like... say I was a painter, for example. And I painted a picture a thought was really beautiful, and then someone came and criticized my painting, saying the contrast was wrong, the strokes were backwards, and what-have-you. I'm merely upset because of personal issues, and because I put alot into this in an attempt to become part of the community again. To put up a cheerful front so not to bring the rest of GBAtemp down (basically I was trying to be "my old self"). So hopefully you get where I'm coming from. Also, I have a headache and I'm starting to get sick, so that's not helping.


Dude, everyday, I have at least three people who come in and tell *me* how to do *my* paintings "better". Also, the kind of people who ask if I copied another painter. Or if it's oil or acrylic. The worst ones are the ones who ask you how long you take to make a painting. Do they ask a brain surgeon how long a brain operation lasts? There will always be people like that. I give them "the look", and they leave.

I don't recall you not being part of the community anymore, by the way. And, you made an interesting enough post to spark debate. Didn't see many rabid or stupid sony fanbois in here, and usually, I call out the astroturfers when I see'em. I just think sony dying is a pipe dream. Only time will tell!

Eh, it just kind of turned into a wiki-battle on GBAtemp, you know? Have any of you ever been involved in one? They're not pleasant. You're just a guy trying to inform people of something, and then someone (or many people) come along and change your edits, and get your sections deleted, and at that point most people snap. They take what's called a "wikibreak". In my case, I got tired of it, snapped, and just ended my account. I made sure I'd never be able to access it again.

It's just not fun doing something to better inform people, just to be helpful. And then having your work shunned, deleted, become the topic of 3 message boards in an attempt for some people to sway other people to delete my work because they misinterpreted it... erm, but yeah, you guys get the idea. Completely off topic for a moment, i think I have the stomach flu, ugh. Getting 4 hours of sleep last night certainly didn't help.

 

[Renegade_R]

Game Console Fanboyism...the new religion.

 

[ds6220]

Game Console Fanboyism...the new religion.

You know, I realize that is a joke, but it is really very true. Only religion or politics seem to elicit this type of response. I think you are dead right on this.

 

[Bitbyte]

Oh the drama =((((. Seriously, nice topic, sweet research, but don't think too much of internet criticism

 

[Heran Bago]

Argment's dead as soon as fanboyism comes into play. Peaople can play the fanboy card to pass someone else's point of veiw as irrational and stupid, while making themselfs seem more balanced and neutral.

Also, business, serious business.

Also, lol internets.

 

[JohnDrake]

Sony PR brilliance at work again.

From a GI.biz interview with SCE Worldwide Europe Vice President, Jamie MacDonald:

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=20189

What would you say to consumers who like Sony and want to buy your products, but perhaps feel that because they're in Europe they're always last in line?

European consumers have shown that historically they don't mind that, because they end up buying as many PlayStations, if not more, than the US and Japan. In Europe, it doesn't seem that the release of our platforms after the US and Japan - in the long run - affects how consumers feel.

So, because we're the biggest market in the world, that means we are indifferent to delays?!

Yes, we still buy Sony products, but is that a clear indicator that the delays are welcome?! Fantastic logic on the part of Sony PR.

In further proof of his firm grasp on reality, when questioned about the failure of UMD movies, he says"

QUOTEI think you'll find in general the market for movies on discs of any type is not particularly great at the moment.

Like I said before, everyone outside of the USA and Japan is getting screwed.

 

[Hitto]

If you're a company and are planning a release strategy, do you :

1- Listen to the market analysis which shows that consumers are a cowardly, superstitious lot that will gobble up anything produced by your company like a hot wad of awesome in your mouth?

2- Listen to some angry internet fanbois?

In the end, sony listens to CHA-CHING, the cash register. Since, as CONSUMERS, we are too WEAK to show our wants through BOYCOTT, the only thing sony notices is "haha, they keep giving us money! they LOVE what we're doing! we must keep doing it!". It's perfectly natural of them to say "get on all fours, you bitch!", since that's what europe, historically, does.

You and I might have done the very same thing in their position. Sometimes, you can't govern an empire by skimming through every consumer's doleances, otherwise you don't get anything done.

Now, I didn't say this was a strategy that leads to success. Nintendo is going to prove that by offering something no consumer asked for, yet will be surprised by.

 

[Heran Bago]

If you were Sony, you'd see this and say "we're heading in the right direction; we just need to keep doing what we're doing, but maybe make some innovations on the handheld front.
If you were Nintendo, you'd think "okay fux, we need to do something batshit nuts if we want to have a chance with this console stuff.

 

[cruddybuddy]

If you were Sony, you'd see this and say "we're heading in the right direction; we just need to keep doing what we're doing, but maybe make some innovations on the handheld front.
If you were Nintendo, you'd think "okay fux, we need to do something batshit nuts if we want to have a chance with this console stuff.

I like how you make Sony sound thoughtful and Nintendo sound like your 14-year-old classmates.

 

[transce080]

I recently got a PSP and I can attest that's it's f#$%ing amazing. Screen size and graphics just blow the DS out of the water. You can use it as an mp3 player or a personal video player as easy as plugging it into the usb and dragging and dropping your files. Between that, displaying pictures, and browsing the internet, pretty much everyone I show it to wants one. Add to that the fact that all the firmware versions of the PSP (at present) have been hacked and can easily be modded to play emulators and homebrew

games, and you have one desirable handheld system.

 

[Kagaden]

Additional facts portion of this needs it's sources sited.

Though I agree Sony is in a bad position and they've only been making it worse.

 

[Hitto]

I recently got a PSP and I can attest that's it's f#$%ing amazing. Screen size and graphics just blow the DS out of the water. You can use it as an mp3 player or a personal video player as easy as plugging it into the usb and dragging and dropping your files. Between that, displaying pictures, and browsing the internet, pretty much everyone I show it to wants one. Add to that the fact that all the firmware versions of the PSP (at present) have been hacked and can easily be modded to play emulators and homebrew

games, and you have one desirable handheld system.

I see roots, I see leaves, and I see two posts trying to sell us a PSP. Hello, little plant!

 

[Athlon-pv]

It just shows that there not many people in here that have the same Sony experience it is the odd one out

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Which explains a few things.

Btw if your wondering why Sony dumped EU and AUS as a sack of shit, most likely due to media attention in USA and JAPAN is far easier for them to advertise. And just keep the damage limited press in both countries would kill them if they didnt participate in that market ..

The EU is just one large market where alot of different countries have different people and marketing isnt as straight forward as it is for other countries ...

Not that "we" care for Sony i think they will sell but not alot but that didnt change anything for Sony i bet their target year is 2008, 2007 is lost ...

 

[ShADyX]

*yawn*

same old shit.

thanks for sharing though....................i think

 

[iNFiNiTY]

PSP Upcoming to end of the year

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DS upcoming to end of the year

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Make your own opinon on that. Whatever opinon you have the PSP clearly isnt dead at all, not even close. Imo the lineup is superior, features less gba style shovelware than the DS. If posting huge rants about competing companies makes you feel better about your own purchase though, go ahead.

 

[Athlon-pv]

There is still software for the PSP no one will dispute that but hardware sales are lacking in Japan.

You know competition you want to atleast to be able to keep up with the DS. There will always be software for it either way ..