Sony could disable JBed PS3s

[cwstjdenobs]

With such precise rules, I'm not sure that it will be a piece of cake... The thing is, if they disable all JBed PS3, they'll lose some customers. And is bricking a system a "reasonable measure" ?

No, it would be like Ford coming to your home and smashing up your car for flashing the ECU. If it was legal don't you think they'd have done it with the PSP? Or MS or Nintendo would have done it years ago?

And y'all know no one has ever gone to court over an EULA, and they are actually a legal grey area with a lot of people thinking the vast majority are so one sided and have that many illegal clauses they'd get voided if it got to a judge?

 

[ComplicatioN]

Does the PS3 only upload what your run on the game section?
Or does it upload everything you do.

All i think they can do is simply ban people from PSN.

 

[asiekierka]

Does the PS3 only upload what your run on the game section?
Or does it upload everything you do.

All i think they can do is simply ban people from PSN.

That or disable you from updating your console, and adding "tampering checks" in future updates, that will check if any unauthorized changes were made to the running system (they could be spread all over the code).

 

[Rydian]

And y'all know no one has ever gone to court over an EULA, and they are actually a legal grey area with a lot of people thinking the vast majority are so one sided and have that many illegal clauses they'd get voided if it got to a judge?This. In fact many EULAs (including the Wii's) have a clause where they specifically reserve the right to change a part if it's found to be illegal.

http://www.nintendo.com/consumer/systems/w...privacyEULA.jspQUOTEYou agree that if any part of this agreement is determined to be invalid or unenforceable, that part will no longer apply and will be considered deleted from the agreement, but all other parts of the agreement will remain in effect.

 

[XXLANCEXX]

I call bulshit on this
I don't think they have the legal right to render a console unusable because of the Jailbreak...

Tell That To the ESA

 

[EJames2100]

Wouldn't see a problem with it actually lol
You hack, they break your console, they offer a fixing service and charge about half the amount of a new console.

 

[BORTZ]

How does the console do this?
What if you have no internet?

 

[Chaz.]

What about if you buy it Second Hand? This may sound a bit strange, but you didn't actually agree to the EULA yourself, the first buyer did.

 

[lostmongoose]

What about if you buy it Second Hand? This may sound a bit strange, but you didn't actually agree to the EULA yourself, the first buyer did.

Wrong. If you create a PSN account, you've agreed to the ToS.

 

[HaniKazmi]

I'd love it if sony actually does disable all hacked consoles, so i can watch thousands of people sue them into oblivion. Banning from PSN is one thing, but actually completely disabling is taking it too far.

 

[Jamstruth]

If I recall right some parts of EULAs are actually incredibly hard to enforce. Example: If Sony were to include a clause saying that if your console is found to be hacked they reserve the right to disable it remotely and you agreed to it then it happened you'd still have a case in court. It'd be ruled that ther were denying you already purchased goods. but you still agreed to it.
Another example. Apple's EULA states that you cannot jailbreak an iPod. You're not allowed to edit the system files or whatever in any way. You HAVE to agree to this EULA to use your iPod but the US government actually ruled jailbreaking as legal until it is used for piracy. So Apple could not sue you for anything to do with that clause.

I remember an April Fools' Joke pulled by Gamestation either last year or the year before. They added a little clause to their ToS saying that by ordering something on 1/4/XX (can't remember year) you gave Gamestation the rights to your soul which they can claim at any time. Greatest idea ever

 

[BobTheJoeBob]

What about if you buy it Second Hand? This may sound a bit strange, but you didn't actually agree to the EULA yourself, the first buyer did.

I think buying stuff second hand (console, games etc) is illegal, not sure.

 

[Jamstruth]

What about if you buy it Second Hand? This may sound a bit strange, but you didn't actually agree to the EULA yourself, the first buyer did.

I think buying stuff second hand (console, games etc) is illegal, not sure.

It probably is somewhere in those goddamned EULAs that nobody's going to enforce. I bought the software and I reserve the right to do whatever the f*** I want with it. I had some Driving Theory test software that stated clearly during the installation that I could not re-sell or even gift the software to a 3rd party. The stuff wasn't even protected with a CD-Key... I actually got given it by somebody who had sat their theory a few months before and I plan on passing it on to another friend. Screw the rules, we have common sense!

 

[DryYoshi]

Sony = Microsoft (kinda)

Microsoft already disables JTAGGED Xbox360's to connect to XBOX LIVE.
And I know feel sorry for buying a XBOX instead of a PS3... (Xbox Live content can get free without JTAG, but on PS3 you can get USBLoader, oh and Uncharted)

 

[Fireballo]

It's a simple matter to disable wifi hardware. you could even add a switch. Hell I might do that for the 3DS. The funny thing is the more Sony pisses people off the more determined hackers will be to further rip apart the security on their system. Sony has brought this all upon themselves with the removal of Linux . If they didn't do that they'd still have a secure console. Now they're going full boar ahead with they very actions that caused the PS3 to be hacked in the first place. Sony will loose. They may as well save the money they are currently wasting on lawyers and put that toward developing the PS4. The PS3 is lost and Sony is just going through an exercise in futility right now.

 

[Giga_Gaia]

I don't see why people make a fuss about this. Sony can't brick your PS3, it's not possible.

Why the hell you guys argue about something they can't even do to begin with. Even if they wanted to do it, they can't, they don't have the mean of doing anything of the sort.

The only thing they can do is ban your console from PSN. They won't ban your account, since this would be completely pointless.

 

[shakirmoledina]

i dont think devices auto connect to ANY free wireless connection (atleast my ipod hasnt) bcz what if your neighbor forgets to set a password and the device autoconnects... obviously not your fault so its the device's fault and can be sued by the neighbor for "stealing" their connecting without their permission
they say the 3ds will auto connect but i doubt tht too

not for this (from someone like me), unlikely but if there is a loophole like everyone else said, it is a dangerous situation esp if the court cases (which have also appeared on bbc) fail. I dont think my 512Kbps connection would ever play on PSN so i wouldnt even allow the ps3 (if i had one) to even go online

edit: interesting point mentioned, how would sony disable a ps3? would they damage it? i dont think they have a logical way of doing so (if not legal)

 

[DiscostewSM]

Disable by preventing games from launching and/or certain system functions from working until the system is updated? Of course in order for it to even know if an update is available, it would need to have been connected online at the time of the update.

 

[rook2King]

Hate me or flame me as much as you want, but i actually kinda want sony to win this jailbreaking thing. As i'd really hate to see one of my favorite companies go bankrupt. [because of pirating, though i am one] I have a ps3 and am fine with paying for games. Now homebrew... that's a different story.

 

[Fireballo]

Hate me or flame me as much as you want, but i actually kinda want sony to win this jailbreaking thing. As i'd really hate to see one of my favorite companies go bankrupt. [because of pirating, though i am one] I have a ps3 and am fine with paying for games. Now homebrew... that's a different story.

No one is going to hate you for your opinion. If that's how you feel that's how you feel. Besides Sony has already lost. There's no way to put the gene back in the bottle.