Hacking some questions about DSTWO(emulation)

[Danny Tanner]

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I never said the SCDS2 wouldn't or can't happen. I'm saying we should all go on living our lives until we get something more definite than a couple news updates. Many things have fallen through with many companies in the past, some very very good and trustworthy. Time lines cannot always be met, and unpredictable obstacles are waiting to pop out (and this goes for any company). There's no sense in asking about this product or what the final design may include until it comes out. Like you said, it's a China-based company, and I'm sure the majority of members here (including myself) don't read Chinese, and the ones who do aren't the ones talking about it.

 

[Uncle FEFL]

If its sales are anything like what is reflected here, it will become the standard, and clones will pop up, that was the R4 reference, and one of the drawbacks of an over-centralized card. We don't know if the SCDS2 will have emulators or how good they will be, but many many people are very hyped. Either way, there will never be perfect SNES emulation, because sprite scaling will have to occur. If you don't mind sprite scaling, one of the already availible SNES-on-DS emulators probably does you fine already.

I've had two supercard products, SCDS1 and slot-2 device. Both had pretty lackluster performance and support overall, compared to my other carts. That's why I don't have my hopes up.
I don't think you seem to know how it works. There's always hype around new cards here. R4 has clones because it was one of the first and cheapest slot 1's available. The DSTWO has hardware and a price point that would be hard to clone. The DSTwo WILL have emulators, there's no uncertainty. How good will they be? Judging from the iPlayer pretty good...and the SNES one should perform better than current emulators...but that one is uncertain.

QUOTE(Uncle FEFL @ Jan 10 2010, 03:50 PM) Who cares?

Besides this site, I go on RHS, 0shippingzone, IGN, and Serenes Forest. Nothing else. Besides Google searches anyway. I don't really keep up with meme's. I didn't even know what one was until a couple months ago...

It's not a big deal...I just found it funny for being completely wrong...but who cares?

Right?
I mean...they're just meme's...right?

 

[9th_Sage]

Maybe it's because I'm tired, but this thread has just caused my head to implode.

 

[Stealth Fox]

When the next ds comes out either at the end of this year or early next this flash card will be less than worthless. Too much too late

 

[granville]

When the next ds comes out either at the end of this year or early next this flash card will be less than worthless. Too much too late

I'd disagree with this statement entirely due to several reasons-

1- the DSi has yet to be hacked, despite being out for quite some time now, i'd think that it will take considerable skill to get the DS2 hacked if even DSi can't be.

2- people STILL use GBA flashcards to this day, I would myself if i had one. Old systems are never worthless.

3- we don't even KNOW if DS2 will be out anytime soon at all. For all we know, it could still be in the concept stages. The Tegra rumors could be complete lies. And although some people seem inclined to think they'll unveil DS2 at e3, i'm skeptical. They're releasing the DSiXL soon, the DSi isn't that old, and announcing a new system so close to release is horrible business. No one will buy the DSi anymore, and that is their most expensive handheld system yet.

 

[Stealth Fox]

Thats exactly right, the dsi hasnt been hacked yet, so they ds2 might never be hacked. Which is why getting a flash card for the ds/dsi now is more than stupid. You can get perfect gba/snes emulaton on the wii, and again when the new ds comes out, thats maybe a window of 5-8 more months of ds games.

 

[granville]

Incorrect. Firstly, not everyone has a Wii to emulate things on. I have a PC, but having them on a handheld is a plus. The GBA continued pumping out great games 3 years after the DS came out. DS was released in 2004, GBA stopped in 2007. DS has plenty of life left in it, especially this year with games like Golden Sun DS and Okamiden. Plus whatever Ninty unveils at e3 for it. And I still seriously doubt the DS2 is coming any time soon.

The DSi is also not meant to replace the DS. At this moment, it's a glorified redesign with only a few noteworthy games for it, one being a Shantae game. And that's downloadable.

I don't think you understand what you're saying even in your own head... Because the DSi hasn't been hacked and the DS2 may never be, releasing this is stupid?! What kind of logic is that? I don't even know what you're trying to prove or what you're even saying...

 

[sfg]

hats exactly right, the dsi hasnt been hacked yet, so they ds2 might never be hacked. Which is why getting a flash card for the ds/dsi now is more than stupid.

Do you realize you're not making any sense?

So the DS2 might never be hacked so then nobody should buy a DS flashcart?

Leaving aside the fact that the DS2, if hacked, would most likely require a completely new flashcart, does it stop you from playing on the DS or what?

Christ, some people are stupid. It's like if the DSi is out we should never play on the DS Lite ever, or on the Gameboy for that matter.

Not everybody HAS to have the latest system and forget about the ones before it, kid.

 

[fgghjjkll]

GIYF, Google is your friend (or Google it you fucker). Want vids? There are a few on the internet.

 

[9th_Sage]

hats exactly right, the dsi hasnt been hacked yet, so they ds2 might never be hacked. Which is why getting a flash card for the ds/dsi now is more than stupid.

Do you realize you're not making any sense?

So the DS2 might never be hacked so then nobody should buy a DS flashcart?

Leaving aside the fact that the DS2, if hacked, would most likely require a completely new flashcart, does it stop you from playing on the DS or what?

Christ, some people are stupid. It's like if the DSi is out we should never play on the DS Lite ever, or on the Gameboy for that matter.

Not everybody HAS to have the latest system and forget about the ones before it, kid.

Thank you for injecting some kind of sense into this thread.

 

[Searinox]

I got a question about emulation too. The DS now has 10MB extra RAM from the DSi or an EZflash slot-2 and an extra cpu from the DS2 itself. Having what it takes to finally break the GBA emulation taboo, think we can also emulate N64?

 

[Destructobot]

I got a question about emulation too. The DS now has 10MB extra RAM from the DSi or an EZflash slot-2 and an extra cpu from the DS2 itself. Having what it takes to finally break the GBA emulation taboo, think we can also emulate N64?

No. The N64 has a 94mhz CPU AND a 63mhz GPU. Even with an extra 400mhz chip in a flashcart full speed N64 emulation is out of the question.

 

[sfg]

The extra RAM in the DSi can't be used (yet or ever) and anyway, a faster CPU would also be probably required for GBA and definitely for N64. So, no.
Probably N64 is not possible on the SCDS2 either. After all, not even the PSP can emulate it at a playable speed.

 

[9th_Sage]

The extra RAM in the DSi can't be used (yet or ever) and anyway, a faster CPU would also be probably required for GBA and definitely for N64. So, no.
Probably N64 is not possible on the SCDS2 either. After all, not even the PSP can emulate it at a playable speed.

Also, merely to add to the information here, the iPlayer and DSTwo should both have 32 MB of RAM on board besides the processor. That said, doesn't really help with the N64 emulation, just adding it to the discussion.