RUMOR - FW 10.5 Ban/error 002-0107

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  1. RMZK
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    There are multiple rumours saying that 10.5 knows if the 3ds is running Emunand by checking a unique SN that every firmware has (obviously Emunand does not). As a result Nintendo is allegedly banning the online services of this 3dses with "error 002-0107".

    There are also rumours of people being banned for playing out of region cias like MHX and cheating on games like Badge arcade.

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    Interesting...
     
  3. subcon959

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    Are these rumours in the wind or do you have references to share?
     
  4. reiyu

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    i've never heard of anyone getting banned from out of region CIAs, including MHX. my friends aren't even banned.

    badge arcade cheating is detectable.
     
  5. duwen

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    Rumours or speculation?
    Sources required. This is GBATemp afterall - if it were even remotely true, there'd likely be a lot more murmurings in these here forums.
     
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    This.

    Of course now I'm highly skeptical. I want to update to 10.5, but now I'm not even sure..

    Doing a quick search of the error code though.. It would seem as though it's tied to a few things..
     
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  7. Apache Thunder

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    Bans from Badge Arcade cheating are widespread and pretty much confirmed. (though I think the ban only applies to Badge Arcade. Not sure if the ban prevents online play for other games or not). As for 10.5 creating additional bans...That's unlikely. Not sure about the out of region CIA stuff though. There may be instances of players getting banned for playing out of region titles that aren't yet available in the region they are playing it in. That may make it easier for Nintendo to find and ban them.

    10.5 didn't update a whole lot. A change to a different security certificate, the obligetory change to NVER/CVER in every update, a version related change in Friends List system module, and a small change to a dummy.txt file in a romfs of a system title (that I don't know the name of at the moment) do not appear to do enough to do emunand checks. An update to Arm11/Arm9 code is likely needed to implement checks if possible and there was no NATIVE_FIRM update in the 10.5 update. Verious devs I've spoken to have said that it's not currently possible for system titles to detect if it's on emunand or not. A thread in Arm9 could in theory be setup. There are "hacky" ways of doing it from what they've said. It's unlikely Nintendo would do that though. It could pose stability issues with the rest of their code and probably wouldn't make it past QA testing for their update software.

    Nintendo seems more concerned about blocking entry points and combating Sky3DS users at the moment.

    I personally have not installed any out of region titles. So in that regard, I don't have much to worry about. I don't really care enough about badges to cheat in their microtransaction game. Nintendo does not like people cheating in their micro-transaction based games. I suggest you don't do that. That's the fast track way of getting onto their ban list for sure. :P
     
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    I can testify that the bans in Badge Center are not a rumor but real, but then again those banned (included me) were using Gateway cheats to get unlimited free attempts.

    I have heard stuff about the translation patch of MHX caused some users to get banned.

    Aside from that, the ban for using emunand seems kinda fake, I would expect GBATemp flooding with topics about it if it was real.
     
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    People being banned for playing out of region CIAs > has been confirmed for a long time now, nothing to do with 10.5.
    People getting banned for cheating in badge arcade > began before 10.5 was released (1~2 weeks ago).
    People getting banned because "EmuNAND doesn't have a unique SN" > complete crap. EmuNAND is en *EXACT* replica of the system NAND, and can even be injected into sysNAND if you like to do useless stuff. Your EmuNAND have the same unique SN your original NAND has. So that's simply impossible; for this reason at least. Maybe BigN really has a way to find out who uses emuNAND, but it's not that at all.
     
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  10. astronautlevel

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    I have upgraded to 10.5 with no problems with online play, though I only have official US CIAs installed, so I can't say anything about the out of region CIAs.

    EDIT: I'm using an Old 3DS US model with CakesFW
     
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    Just tested going online with the eShop and in game, no ban. Most likely this person was banned for something else, then blamed his emuNAND to get attention. It's not uncommon for people to make sure up on the internet.
    Edit: Gateway emuNAND 10.5 running through Aurora Wright's ReiNand Mod on old3DS.
     
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    Is this true? AFAIK, no one has been banned for using other region CIAs, but correct me if you have reliable sources please.
     
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    Nice. Yet another "10.5 leads into ban" and sht like that. Stay banned so you don't have to create such threads and spread misinformation about new updates. Hopefully the ban will last till the next update(I wish :( )
     
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    Pardon my language, but the Badge Arcade is such a fucking ripoff. It's Nintendo being greedy as always. Anyways, back to finding the address for my plays. :P
     
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    YOU USE NON-LICENSED SOFTWARE YOU GET BANNED CFW = BAN DEAL WITH IT IT A PRICE YOU PAY FOR GAAAAYYYYMMMMEEEEZZZZZZ

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  16. sweis12

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    Does it just ban your emunand? Or does it ban the nnid linked to it? Or does it ban your console?
     
  17. Pecrow

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    I hope this is not true. lol I have a Jap n3ds and all ofmy CIAs are USA and EUR... I did get banned for cheating on badge archade but it was because of my own doing, even so, I can still play other games online just fine. Also I have emu 10.5 via gateway
     
  18. Marko76

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    None of the above as Nintendo are not banning people for using emunand or out of region cia games rmzk is spreading false info in this thread.

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    It's 100% bullshit
     
  19. duffmmann

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    The only bans confirmed are from those cheating in the badge arcade, this includes gateway and cfw, no one means of hacking has an upper hand here, cheating by either method is detectable. So please don't spread this kind of propaganda, this could cause some users to think they are safe when they may not be.

    Though for what it's worth, my understanding is that if you are banned in the badge arcade, it is only for the badge arcade, not all online titles (please someone correct me if I'm wrong about that).

    Beyond that, just as a general rule of thumb to both avoid being banned and keep games fun for everyone: please people, don't cheat on games online.
     
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    I personally think that this is false, but if you can get banned for using cheats in online games and other factors that could influence that.

    Whether you are creating a collective crisis because of these rumors.
     
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