Hacking [Request] Split this forum for WiiU and vWii

[scyllahydre]

Hi there,

This request has been done many times and I come here to repeat it with some points on why to do that:

-The last request has been done while the wii u hacking scene was not existing, today some people manage to use some exploit, or even replace some files of some game on the fly. We want a subforum for all that.

-People are confusing WiiU and vWii, and it is getting really anoying. Let's take some example:
>https://gbatemp.net/threads/wii-u-hombrew-help.390007/
>https://gbatemp.net/threads/help-for-a-noob-vwiiu.389322/
>https://gbatemp.net/threads/unmod-wii-u.390070/
>https://gbatemp.net/threads/wii-u-homebrew-channel-and-the-wiiu-controller.389684/

-People tend to forget why some thread have been created: some are here to talk about wiiU while people start to talk about vWii, then people tend to stop posting about the wiiU inside it and create another thread to talk about the wiiU. This new thread will end up like the previous one.
examples:
>https://gbatemp.net/threads/hacking-the-wiiu-a-simple-progress-guide.338900/page-47
The first one, talk about wii u at the beginning and end up on vWii
>https://gbatemp.net/threads/wii-u-hacking-homebrew-discussion.367489/
The second one, its a mess, like 2 pages on vWii for one page on WiiU, its like impossible to understand what the f*** we are talking about.
>https://gbatemp.net/threads/wii-u-homebrew-situation-and-faq.367627/
The third one, the first post says that you SHOULD NOT talk about vWii in that thread while the last page in ALL about the vWii
>https://gbatemp.net/threads/beginne...me-backups-and-homebrews-on-wiiu-vwii.388448/
The last one, still on wii U but some posts are on vWii.

I'm sorry if this post is aggressive in any kind of way, but this place is really interesting while being a fcking mess. It's not like people tend to put a [WiiU] or [vWii] tag, people come here and post about whatever they want in the first thread they click on without even thinking about it.

bye guys.

 

[Heran Bago]

this would improve the site

 

[jammybudga777]

i would run and take cover now bro lol. im sure people will take this in completely the wrong way (criticism)..... but i do agree at some point it would be nice to split them off

 

[scyllahydre]

i would run and take cover now bro lol. im sure people will take this in completely the wrong way (criticism)..... but i do agree at some point it would be nice to split them off

I'll not take cover and run in any kind of way, even if I'm lurking here, this place is like home. I love gbatemp and what people are creating here. Finding a better way to communicate is my goal through this thread.

Today, if you want to have a compilation of what we're able to do with a Wii U, you have to go through 4 different big thread and 20 small thread which has fallen into the abyss of this subforum. I'm not organized in any kind of way, I don't feel like it's something useful, and I'm surely someone not organized. BUT, sometime you have to be organized especially in a forum where people show there exploit.

That's it, I love this place, and I want to improve it =).

 

[Nathan Drake]

The last time this was requested that I can recall, Wii U hacking was still more conceptual than fact with few, if any actual applications and exploits in progress. That was awhile ago though. With that in mind, if organization is becoming a legitimate problem now, it might be time to make the split.

 

[jammybudga777]

i was jokeing btw and i do agree it should be split off from each other maybe when more things happen on the wii u side of things

 

[c80n]

I agree with the split.
And although this is not the proper place for it, they should seriously consider removing some of the stickies in certain places, more specifically the 3DS section. There is an obscene amount of them. Just a friendly suggestion.

 

[ddrrmm]

agreed, vwii questions etc dont belong here imo.

 

[NWPlayer123]

Has already been discussed by mods, until there are enough threads to warrant a split (which would require exploits to be out and some homebrew to be started) it's not happening.

 

[DinohScene]

Wii U mode hacking.
Wii U Wii mode hacking.

I say it's not a bad idea.

 

[VashTS]

Agreed with most here - should be separated.

 

[bobmcjr]

Even if there "aren't enough" Wii U mode threads, it would make things a lot less confusing, and when a Wii U mode thread is created, it would be a lot more visible.

 

[scyllahydre]

Has already been discussed by mods, until there are enough threads to warrant a split (which would require exploits to be out and some homebrew to be started) it's not happening.

With all the respect I have for you and your work, that's silly.

Ask people to put tags on their post and respect why threads have been created.

TBH, to be able to follow what's going on with wii U hack, I have to check YOUR post on YOUR profile, while I should be checking a thread about that.

Having an empty forum is less shitty than having this mess, I don't understand where splitting forums would be an heavy step.

 

[TehCupcakes]

Last time, I was against splitting because there was no progress on Wii U mode hacking besides fail0verflow. While there still isn't a huge amount publicly available, there has been the webkit exploit, progress is ongoing, and there is a good bit of theoretical discussion about it. Furthermore, amiibo hacking is a developing topic that would contribute to the Wii U mode section. As others have mentioned, even if there wouldn't be a lot of content right away, it would at least help to organize things and keep newbie questions in their appropriate place. It would be easier to browse and find information about what you're actually looking for instead of scavenging through all the unrelated information.

A forum split generally happens because there is a significant enough difference between two topics that warrants keeping them separated. The vWii is discussed in this forum even though it is largely the same as the original Wii. It feels kind a bit redundant at times... But the differences were significant enough that they need to be separate so users can easily find what those differences are. (This is also convoluted by the fact that the vWii is technically built into the Wii U, so it would be unfit for the Wii section, but that's ignore that for a moment...) That being the case, I think it is certainly fair to say that Wii U mode (and the hacking progress being made in it) is significantly different from vWii hacking.

 

[csgolawliet]

great idea, at first i thought the vWii was the normal wii forum though

 

[pedro702]

why split if there is nothing for the wiiu mode forum? i mean not until devs actualy start making wiiu homebrew, making a wiiu mode subforum would just be a blank forum with the wiiu hacking discussion thread and that would be it.

 

[mightymuffy]

why split if there is nothing for the wiiu mode forum? i mean not until devs actualy start making wiiu homebrew, making a wiiu mode subforum would just be a blank forum with the wiiu hacking discussion thread and that would be it.

Agreed. What is the point at the moment? All we'd end up with on the Wii U side would be multiple wishlists & 'why-isn't-it-fukkin-out-yet??!!11' threads that'd end up staying on topic for about as long as the main hacking thread on here has - and in the best ones we'd get half a dozen relevant posts then it'd degenerate into people pissing and whining because they disagree with someone's opinion, or they can't read a post properly , or why-isn't-it-fukkin----yeah you get the picture - that main thread is depressing enough to read (on certain pages) as it is.

 

[scyllahydre]

Agreed. What is the point at the moment? All we'd end up with on the Wii U side would be multiple wishlists & 'why-isn't-it-fukkin-out-yet??!!11' threads that'd end up staying on topic for about as long as the main hacking thread on here has - and in the best ones we'd get half a dozen relevant posts then it'd degenerate into people pissing and whining because they disagree with someone's opinion, or they can't read a post properly , or why-isn't-it-fukkin----yeah you get the picture - that main thread is depressing enough to read (on certain pages) as it is.

Yeah, it would not change people spaming about release date, but there will not be asking about how to softmod their vWii every 3 posts.

So let's ask the question, what would their be in the wii U forums?

things like this can already be there:
https://gbatemp.net/threads/how-to-use-drc-sim.390217/


Tutorials about openDNS and how to block updates
Tutorials about any tools to replace files on the fly
Theories about exploit and ideas

For any people, asking about when it will be out, not being in the subject, whinning or anything like that, there is powerful weapon known for ages on forums which is called "moderators".

Let's take an example, right now, if you go on Wii U hacking topics and some people come to talk about vWii and you delete their posts, they will not understand cause "why are you doing that, vWii is inside the wiiU so that's WiiU hacking", but if their is a vWii forum and a WiiU (not vWii) forum people would understand instantly.

At the same time, mixing both forums would have reason to exist if you were using some WiiU hacking to hack vWii or if you were using some vWii hacking to hack the wiiU, but that's not the case. Both of these system are not linked in any kind of way.

 

[The Catboy]

At this point, a split will help solve a lot more problems than it would cause. I am for the split as well.

 

[Haloman800]

My only reservation is the WiiU scene is so slow, splitting it up would make it even slower.