I followed Truth's guide and have the cios' installed, and HBC. I have gotten really confused on all the guides out there when it comes to VC/WiiWare in vWii. Do I need IOS-236? Do I need to patch system menu? For example can I install a VC game without 236 and without system menu patched? My preferred method would be using YAWMM to install the .wad. As far as nand goes I have a backed up nand from the suggestions in Truth's gude. Can Usbloader or Wiiflow use this or do those programs have to back up the nands through their own methods to make an emunand? and can they install wads as well? Thank you in advance for your help. Always appreciated.