Homebrew [QUESTION] Could we trick 3DS system update to downlod other content, then downgrade?

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If I recall correctly, you can't do that since 8.x or 9.x, they changed the certificates or something along those lines. That's why that's a method used to upgrade from 8.x to 9.2.

Certificates are stored on ClCertA system title. It's easy to obtain them and replace with new ones to do MITM relay :)
 

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Certificates are stored on ClCertA system title. It's easy to obtain them and replace with new ones to do MITM relay :)

Huh. I haven't explored that much, so I'll take your word for it. But then, why hasn't anyone got working on that? It seems kinda weird to ignore the first obvious solution for custom upgrades.
 

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Huh. I haven't explored that much, so I'll take your word for it. But then, why hasn't anyone got working on that? It seems kinda weird to ignore the first obvious solution for custom upgrades.

Huh this means you can make a Downgrade from 10.4 on Soft Mod?
 

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Huh. I haven't explored that much, so I'll take your word for it. But then, why hasn't anyone got working on that? It seems kinda weird to ignore the first obvious solution for custom upgrades.

Because as I have seen if you try to download a system title of an old version Nintendo SOAP says... 401 Forbidden.
 

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Huh. I haven't explored that much, so I'll take your word for it. But then, why hasn't anyone got working on that? It seems kinda weird to ignore the first obvious solution for custom upgrades.
There's still the issue of downgrade prevention. The 3ds checks title versions after they've downloaded and disallows a lower title replacement.
 
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As they say, the problem is not fake the console, the big problem is that when the console download and try to install the fake update, will check signature and other app checks and see that ur fake update is that... a fake.

And dont install, u could even get stuck in a brick loop, because if u make that always that try to update, u use a fake update and cant be installed, u just can recovery with a update so if u cant update...

loop brick.
 

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As they say, the problem is not fake the console, the big problem is that when the console download and try to install the fake update, will check signature and other app checks and see that ur fake update is that... a fake.

And dont install, u could even get stuck in a brick loop, because if u make that always that try to update, u use a fake update and cant be installed, u just can recovery with a update so if u cant update...

loop brick.
sorry buddy but that is not the problem.
we would not have to break any signatures of updates, this is not the problem :)
even if we did edit the tmd to trick into downgrading instead of upgrading, untouched legit tickets would still exist on the system from the previous newer update so this should not be a problem
 

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sorry buddy but that is not the problem.
we would not have to break any signatures of updates, this is not the problem :)
even if we did edit the tmd to trick into downgrading instead of upgrading, untouched legit tickets would still exist on the system from the previous newer update so this should not be a problem

Anyway is just the same, for app checks or for legit tickets, the answer is that we cant fully fake a update actually.
 

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