Gaming question about the eshop channel.

[DJPlace]

that you can download full games? or are they still looking into that?

 

[Zerosuit connor]

Yes, Retail games can now be downloaded, currently there are only two listed on the E-Shop, they are;
New Super Mario Bros 2
Art Academy

 

[DinohScene]

Bad move from Ninty tbh.

This can easily be reverse engineered to allow for games to be executed on the SD.
Same thing happened to MS's GOD format.

It got reverse engineered and now every 360 game can be converted into a GOD file.


But yes.
And iirc Ninty was planning on releasing more games via the eShop.

 

[AceWarhead]

Bad move from Ninty tbh.

This can easily be reverse engineered to allow for games to be executed on the SD.
Same thing happened to MS's GOD format.

It got reverse engineered and now every 360 game can be converted into a GOD file.


But yes.
And iirc Ninty was planning on releasing more games via the eShop.

If it was that easy, we'd have piratd DSiWare games running off of a SD card.

 

[DinohScene]

Bad move from Ninty tbh.

This can easily be reverse engineered to allow for games to be executed on the SD.
Same thing happened to MS's GOD format.

It got reverse engineered and now every 360 game can be converted into a GOD file.


But yes.
And iirc Ninty was planning on releasing more games via the eShop.

If it was that easy, we'd have piratd DSiWare games running off of a SD card.

There wasn't much interest for DSiWare games.
That + homebrew could already be executed from a flashcard so there was no realy drive to hack the DSi in the first place.

Now with the 3DS it's a completely different story.
No flashcard exists and no hack yet.

However to prevent further derailing of the thread, Only time can tell what becomes of the 3DS.

 

[431unknown]

Not to derail the thread any further but, I thought that DSiware could only be executed from system memory and not the SD card? Wasn't the SD card just used for backing up your games from memory when it became full and pictures?

 

[ShadowSoldier]

I sincerely doubt that this is going to allow hacking. It seems to me that Nintendo built a tight console, which is great.

But yes, some full games can be bought on the shop. If they're all going to be on there, I have no idea. I know Rayman Origins is going to be released for full release on the eShop.

 

[DinohScene]

@[member='431unknown']

Iirc yes.
I'm not really at home in the DSi hacking scene but afaik, the only way to execute DSi ware is from Sysmemory indeed.

@[member='ShadowSoldier']

I agree.
I don't mind a hack for import games but I seriously hope that no flashcard will be developed ever.
Another R4 fiasco isn't something we're waiting for.....

 

[ferofax]

Bad move from Ninty tbh.

This can easily be reverse engineered to allow for games to be executed on the SD.
Same thing happened to MS's GOD format.

It got reverse engineered and now every 360 game can be converted into a GOD file.


But yes.
And iirc Ninty was planning on releasing more games via the eShop.

If it was that easy, we'd have piratd DSiWare games running off of a SD card.

This. SD or System Memory isn't the point, but the quality of the encryption scheme and security measures in place.

Reverse Engineered? Yes, possible.
Easily? *walks away laughing*

 

[trumpet-205]

Yes, Retail games can now be downloaded, currently there are only two listed on the E-Shop, they are;
New Super Mario Bros 2
Art Academy

You forgot Order Up!

Bad move from Ninty tbh.

This can easily be reverse engineered to allow for games to be executed on the SD.
Same thing happened to MS's GOD format.

It got reverse engineered and now every 360 game can be converted into a GOD file.


But yes.
And iirc Ninty was planning on releasing more games via the eShop.

Except everything is digitally encrypted. Xbox 360 got hacked because of improper implementation of its encryption system. Until someone identifies a flaw in encryption scheme good luck having to reverse engineer something.

 

[DinohScene]

Except everything is digitally encrypted. Xbox 360 got hacked because of improper implementation of its encryption system. Until someone identifies a flaw in encryption scheme good luck having to reverse engineer something.

360 is really secure from a software point of view.
First hack was a shader exploit, techically a software exploit but it did require a hacked DVD drive so it relied upon a hardware hack (Kernel 4548 didn't checked the signature of the shaders)
Second hack is the jTAG.
Third hack is the RGH.

Both of these are hardware hacks and as of this day no software hacks have been found.
It's highly unlikely one will ever be found.

PS3 was also heavily encrypted.
Until the masterkey got discovered.....

First thing needed is access to the system indeed.
From that on, reverse engineering etc can begin.

Time will tell what happens on the 3DS.

 

[Pleng]

Bad move from Ninty tbh.

This can easily be reverse engineered to allow for games to be executed on the SD.
Same thing happened to MS's GOD format.

OK so this thread is well and truly de-railed now so.....

how is having full retail cards available to download to SD cards any less secure than having eShop only releases available to download? Or are you suggesting that any form of downloadable material is a bad idea?

 

[DinohScene]

Not at all.

I'm just saying it it can lead to easier piracy.
It doesn't have to be true but it can lead to it.

 

[DJPlace]

thanks for the info. i was hoping for some of the eariler games to be on there but i guess not..

 

[BORTZ]

Im surprised they arent putting more games up for download.

 

[Janthran]

Bad move from Ninty tbh.

This can easily be reverse engineered to allow for games to be executed on the SD.
Same thing happened to MS's GOD format.

It got reverse engineered and now every 360 game can be converted into a GOD file.


But yes.
And iirc Ninty was planning on releasing more games via the eShop.

Then do it

 

[DinohScene]

Bad move from Ninty tbh.

This can easily be reverse engineered to allow for games to be executed on the SD.
Same thing happened to MS's GOD format.

It got reverse engineered and now every 360 game can be converted into a GOD file.


But yes.
And iirc Ninty was planning on releasing more games via the eShop.

Then do it

I'm not reverse engineering it.
The 3DS isn't even hacked yet and I lack the sufficient knowledge about it.

 

[Jiehfeng]

YES

 

[AskaLangly]

Nintendo sells retail games via eShop... great move.
Next is to be like Steam in every way possible.
Maybe be a bit like Desura, with an indie games section?

 

[heartgold]

Nintendo has confirmed upcoming titles will also be digital.

Paper Mario
luigi Mansion
brain training
Professor layton
Animal crossing