Hacking Question about Freeshop

[Aglaophotis]

FreeShop is completely risk-free. It's impossible for anything bad to go wrong, but me saying this probably won't change your mind, I understand that feeling.

Huh? I never said anything about it being risky. Like I said, I don't use it because FBI+QR code is more convenient and faster for me.
I'm still downloading the game from Nintendo's servers so in terms of risk it doesn't make any difference.

 

[Dr.Hacknik]

Still waiting for a C&D (From Nintendo) on Wii U USB Helper....

 

[Clydefrosch]

Huh? I never said anything about it being risky. Like I said, I don't use it because FBI+QR code is more convenient and faster for me.
I'm still downloading the game from Nintendo's servers so in terms of risk it doesn't make any difference.

its weird, but why would you call that more convenient? you have to have a pc running next to you, you have to search on that titlekey site and you can only download one at a time.
whereas freeshop is always available and you could put 10 downloads in queue overnight and stuff

 

[wormdood]

freeshop and eshop both look at the consoles encrypted title keys that being said nintendo can easily look at your purchase history and tell you dont own the game . . . but there is nothing they can do without changing the hardware or updating the eshop in the first case they fail as you would need to buy a new system and as for the second it would essentially lock out the freeshop and possibly legit users from redownloading what they paid for . . .

 

[Thirty3Three]

Look, you can ask pretty much anyone who has CFW (which normally 9 times out of 10 means they have freeShop) and they'll tell you freeShop is great. There are no recorded issues with it (as far as I'm aware) and if you decide that it's too risky, that's your loss. I mean, feel free to prove me wrong, but I've only ever heard and received good from it.

Wait, so, hypothetically (haha)

If I were to go onto some fun ISO site, and download a title key bin file, I'd be able to pirate games directly to the 3ds using free shop?


That's so cool, if so! I'd just need to find out how to make a custom title key in file

 

[ItsKipz]

Wait, so, hypothetically (haha)

If I were to go onto some fun ISO site, and download a title key bin file, I'd be able to pirate games directly to the 3ds using free shop?


That's so cool, if so! I'd just need to find out how to make a custom title key in file

Yes. just get enctitlekeys.bin from that 3ds key site

 

[Pacheko17]

Huh? I never said anything about it being risky. Like I said, I don't use it because FBI+QR code is more convenient and faster for me.
I'm still downloading the game from Nintendo's servers so in terms of risk it doesn't make any difference.

OMG, sorry :ss
I was kinda sleepy and misread your post.

 

[petethepug]

There is no P2P file transfer involved so your ISP cannot dmca you but Nintendo can directly ban your console

I have backed up several of my games using JKSM, like MK7, its been a month since I installed CFW & the game and I have not yet been banned, and Pokémon Sun & Pokémon Alpha Sapphire.
What your saying makes almost no sense.

Really only time can tell, and predictions of what could happen. But I highly doubt you would get a DMCA notice from Nintendo in like a week from playing a Pokémon game online, or any other online game from (add whatever you did, or got the game from.)

 

[vinstage]

I might be the minority, but I'm actually not using Freeshop. Not because I think it's "risky" or something.. but I find it more convenient to open that title key website on my PC or laptop and simply scan the QR code with FBI. I'm still quite new to A9LH+Luma so I've been testing different methods to find the best one for me including Freeshop, CIAngel, installing tickets and downloading via eShop, moving .cia files to the SD card etc.. and I figured that FBI+QR scan is the fastest and easiest method for me. Faster than launching Freeshop and typing different titles with the on-screen keyboard.

To be honest with you, I only installed freeShop a few weeks ago and found it useful for when I was going out and could add a bunch of games to the download queue. I suppose you can add a load of CIAs to the SD and install them all via FBI, but I found it handier to get these CIAs off of my 3ds instead of loading up my PC.
Until then I was using FBI, but now I just find freeShop handy due to the fact I'm either out a lot, or sleeping.
From what I knew, many of my friends (who homebrew, softmod ect) had freeShop, recommended it to me MANY times and I finally decided to install. Most people I talk to have freeShop also, so that's why I say 9 times out of 10.

 

[Aglaophotis]

its weird, but why would you call that more convenient? you have to have a pc running next to you, you have to search on that titlekey site and you can only download one at a time.
whereas freeshop is always available and you could put 10 downloads in queue overnight and stuff

To be honest with you, I only installed freeShop a few weeks ago and found it useful for when I was going out and could add a bunch of games to the download queue. I suppose you can add a load of CIAs to the SD and install them all via FBI, but I found it handier to get these CIAs off of my 3ds instead of loading up my PC.
Until then I was using FBI, but now I just find freeShop handy due to the fact I'm either out a lot, or sleeping.
From what I knew, many of my friends (who homebrew, softmod ect) had freeShop, recommended it to me MANY times and I finally decided to install. Most people I talk to have freeShop also, so that's why I say 9 times out of 10.

Haha maybe the thing is that I mostly do ineed have a running laptop or PC somewhere next to me so opening that site and typing in a game I'm looking for with a real keyboard is faster for me than going through the Freeshop process. There were also games I couldn't find on Freeshop because of Japanese titles like the NES Final Fantasy games for example. And it's not that I need to download games that often... or even queue so many games. If I install like 2-4 games, that will suit me for weeks (depending on the games). I'm also a bit minimalistic and like to keep my 3DS (or other devices I use) clean from apps and stuff I don't necessarily need.

In the end it probably just depends on the user. Like how often you have a running PC next to you or how often you're going out. So I can definitely imagine Freeshop being more practical for many people.

 

[vinstage]

In the end it probably just depends on the user. Like how often you have a running PC next to you or how often you're going out. So I can definitely imagine Freeshop being more practical for many people.

Yeah, I mean. FBI and freeShop both have their pro's and con's. I still use them both , as I'm sure soon it'll be FBI I use more, but atm it's freeShop, like you say, it really depends on the user.

 

[Majickhat55]

Like others said Freeshop = eShop. There is no difference, your ISP has no idea which program you're using to download titles directly from Nintendo, not to mention wouldn't retain purchases through merchants. So your ISP has no bearing on anything. Nintendo can check paid tickets against your NNID purchase history to make sure they match if they wanted to, but since CIA use your console's header, there is nothing to red flag a game as a pirated copy either way. The only way you could (in theory) get caught is if Ninty just randomly decided to implement a check against installed titles/Purchase history, but would break their own ToS by forcing you to create an account to use the hardware if they did something like deleting tickets that were never purchased on that account automatically. Since you can you know, buy games without an NNID.

What I'm saying is the only way they would know is if they had a reason to check your NNID account in the first place. Then they could see what tickets were paid and which weren't. Which they haven't done, EVER AFAIK and probably never will. And even if they did, you could have purchased it without an account. You're at just as much risk by using ANY title that wasn't published by Nintendo unless you refuse to setup Wi-Fi on the console. They can totally see when you're playing "FBI" which is more of a red flag than a game that you "may" have pirated.

 

[Distrance]

. They can totally see when you're playing "FBI" which is more of a red flag than a game that you "may" have pirated.

Actually they can't. I asked about this before and it just appears as Unknown Software or something like that. And even if they could see it they'd have to be looking at your account in the first place and why would they be doing that?

So yeah as far as this thread goes and some members choosing not to use it because it seems "a bold move" ... Well, no one's forcing you to use it but it literally makes zero difference whether you use it or not. If you download a CIA from an iso site and install it on your system you might as well have downloaded it from freeShop .. It literally makes no difference.

 

[Majickhat55]

Pretty sure no official software would be "unknown" so it would still be the same scenario in theory Lol

 

[ItsKipz]

Actually they can't. I asked about this before and it just appears as Unknown Software or something like that. And even if they could see it they'd have to be looking at your account in the first place and why would they be doing that?

So yeah as far as this thread goes and some members choosing not to use it because it seems "a bold move" ... Well, no one's forcing you to use it but it literally makes zero difference whether you use it or not. If you download a CIA from an iso site and install it on your system you might as well have downloaded it from freeShop .. It literally makes no difference.

also cia's from random sites can have viruses lol

 

[Distrance]

also cia's from random sites can have viruses lol

Never heard of anything like this before lol. Of course I guess it depends what you're downloading but if you're using "that one ISO site" then you're definitely not gonna get viruses when downloading from trusted uploaders.

 

[Flying Scotsman]

There is no P2P file transfer involved so your ISP cannot dmca you but Nintendo can directly ban your console

There is literally no way Nintendo can distinguish between a legit eShop ticket, and a ticket given to you via Freeshop (the ticket is the same (i.e exact same contents + name) in both cases). In their eyes, you've got the pass needed to get the files - so you must be legit!

If they had the ability to do so, they'd have stamped out Freeshop the moment it came on the scene, instead of DMCA'ing it because of the use of the 3DS splash screen when it booted.

It'll be interesting to see what Nintendo have learned from 3DS modding/hacking when they developed the Switch's OS. You can tell they've taken a lot of parts from the 3DS's OS when they made the switch, so I wonder if the same 'issues' are still present (i.e homebrew is pretty easy to accomplish due to overseen bugs, tickets are still used as it is on the 3DS so we can port Freeshop over etc).

 

[gkoelho]

Pretty sure no official software would be "unknown" so it would still be the same scenario in theory Lol

Well u may have a developer friend or just be testing a game for others, Im not sure of how the 3ds games producing are but im sure there is people with non-dev consoles out there who might be able to grab a few of them.

 

[The Catboy]

You can download it directly from the server as long you have the title keys

But it is not recommended to download and play the online services such as Pokemon as you can be banned

Freeshop works with CFW such as Luma3DS

You will not get banned for downloading and playing CIA games or games from freeShop online.

you can only get banned if you play an out-of-region game or cheat

This actually isn't true. I've been playing out of region games online as well.
You only get banned for playing games before launch and even that is hit and miss. People played MH online before launch and aren't banned.

As for the fear of risk. Freeshop is completely legal and falls under the same laws as a torrent downloader. Freeshop does not support, endorse, nor encourage illegally downloading games, it's recommended for installing your own tickets. Even if you are using it outside of it's intended purpose, freeShop itself doesn't violate the law.
And before anyone hits me "But the takedown notice!" They didn't take it down for the piracy usage, it was removed for using the 3DS bootsplash. Nintendo wanted the reason to be for piracy, but that's not how they got it removed.

 

[TheCruel]

If your isp can notify you of a dmca violation from downloading a file p2p. Im sure nintendo can see who's connected to their servers. They could come after you if they wanted.

Piracy alert! Here's encrypted Yoshi's Woolly World for USA : http://ccs.cdn.c.shop.nintendowifi.net/ccs/download/00040000001A4100/00000000

It's plainly available on Nintendo's server. Downloading it isn't a copyright violation. Using freeShop to install it may be though, then again modding your console probably is too.