Homebrew PSX Emulation?

[Jaay_]

Hey I'm quite new to 3DS homebrew and I was wondering, how can I get PSX emulation on my 3DS? I saw the video below and tried it myself using the newest nightly build of Retroarch but it ran at 12 - 17 FPS. Is there anyway I can make it run better? I've got a N3DS so it should be powerful enough. Does anyone have any configuration tips to make it run like his 3ds?
Thanks in advance

 

[Deleted User]

You could try to turn off audio in the audio settings. That gives it a good boost when I play Crash Bandicoot.

 

[Asia81]

I tried RetroArch3DS (CTRX) with Xena Warrior Princess, and it run at a very good speed.
N3DSXL

 

[Deleted User]

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(you can get near full speed with cia version on new 3DS, by disabling Audio/video synch (Settings>Audio>Audio Sync Enable OFF and setting sound resampler (Settings>Driver>Audio Driver>Audio) to "Nearest") (DONT FORGET TO SET IT BACK TO NORMAL AFTERWARDS SINCE RETROARCH CONFIG IS SHARED ACROSS CORES FOR NOW)"

From the Retroarch thread.

 

[daxtsu]

Hey I'm quite new to 3DS homebrew and I was wondering, how can I get PSX emulation on my 3DS? I saw the video below and tried it myself using the newest nightly build of Retroarch but it ran at 12 - 17 FPS. Is there anyway I can make it run better? I've got a N3DS so it should be powerful enough. Does anyone have any configuration tips to make it run like his 3ds?
Thanks in advance

Are you using CFW/the CIA version? That's one reason why the user in that video has decent/good speeds.

 

[Jaay_]

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(you can get near full speed with cia version on new 3DS, by disabling Audio/video synch (Settings>Audio>Audio Sync Enable OFF and setting sound resampler (Settings>Driver>Audio Driver>Audio) to "Nearest") (DONT FORGET TO SET IT BACK TO NORMAL AFTERWARDS SINCE RETROARCH CONFIG IS SHARED ACROSS CORES FOR NOW)"

From the Retroarch thread.

I was wondering how do I go about running a .CIA file? Is it the same as running a 3DSX file or do I have to run it differently? Also is what's a CFW file?

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Are you using CFW/the CIA version? That's one reason why the user in that video has decent/good speeds.

I'm not overly sure what a CFW file is but if it helps I'm running a 3DSX file using menuhax.

 

[Deleted User]

I was wondering how do I go about running a .CIA file? Is it the same as running a 3DSX file or do I have to run it differently? Also is what's a CFW file?

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I'm not overly sure what a CFW file is but if it helps I'm running a 3DSX file using menuhax.

lol a CFW isn't a file, it stands for Custom Firmware (a copy of your internal NAND, but stored on an SD card, which can be patched through CFW loaders such as RxTools, ReiNAND, etc.) But you need to be on 9.2 or under to install CIAs!

 

[Jaay_]

lol a CFW isn't a file, it stands for Custom Firmware (a copy of your internal NAND, but stored on an SD card, which can be patched through CFW loaders such as RxTools, ReiNAND, etc.) But you need to be on 9.2 or under to install CIAs!

Oh thanks! My 3DS is running at 10.5 so I can't get CIA files running then. Does running Oothax make frame rate better or are they just doors?

 

[daxtsu]

I was wondering how do I go about running a .CIA file? Is it the same as running a 3DSX file or do I have to run it differently? Also is what's a CFW file?

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I'm not overly sure what a CFW file is but if it helps I'm running a 3DSX file using menuhax.

CFW isn't a file, it stands for Custom Firmware, like the PSP scene term. CFW lets you run CIA files (which are like WAD files from the Wii). CIA files can do whatever they want, including things like dynamic recompilers (which is how emulators like Dolphin, PPSSPP, PCSX-ReARMed, etc., on computers and phones get good speeds). Since you're more or less asking what these are, we can assume you don't have CFW. What firmware is your 3DS on? If it's low enough, you could install CFW (or downgrade and then install CFW), in order to run the CIA versions to get better performance.

Ninja'd: Saw 10.5. On 10.5 you can't get CFW without a hardmod + downgrade.

Without CFW, don't expect PS1 to run very well. The New 3DS, even though it's clocked much higher than the O3DS, is still not capable of running PS1 at full speed without CFW, basically.

 

[Wario32]

I believe you need to run the core on 9.2fw to reach max speeds.

 

[Joom]

Oh thanks! My 3DS is running at 10.5 so I can't get CIA files running then. Does running Oothax make frame rate better or are they just doors?

It won't help any. *hax are just entrypoints. Running the emulator directly within the NAND (with a CIA) is the only way to get "decent" speeds.

 

[Deleted User]

Oh thanks! My 3DS is running at 10.5 so I can't get CIA files running then. Does running Oothax make frame rate better or are they just doors?

Your *hax entrypoint (OoThax, Ninjhax, browserhax, etc.) shouldn't matter; they all get the same 3DS service priveliges (less than what a CIA file can get). CIA programs can access all the required services to make the PSX game run a lot faster, so that's why the .3dsx version of PCSX is always gonna be slower than the .CIA version.

 

[Joom]

Your *hax entrypoint (OoThax, Ninjhax, browserhax, etc.) shouldn't matter; they all get the same 3DS service priveliges (less than what a CIA file can get). CIA programs can access all the required services to make the PSX game run a lot faster, so that's why the .3dsx version of PCSX is always gonna be slower than the .CIA version.

Not to mention without kernel access for proper hooking, performance is gonna be shoddy at best.

 

[Orphen07]

You can run .CIA files by installing them via a CIA installer; FBI, and BigBlueBox come to mind. And, I'm pretty sure daxtsu meant, "Are you using Custom Firmware," not a CFW file, which (to my knowledge) does not exist.

 

[Joom]

You can run .CIA files by installing them via a CIA installer; FBI, and BigBlueBox come to mind. And, I'm pretty sure daxtsu meant, "Are you using Custom Firmware," not a CFW file, which (to my knowledge) does not exist.

Regardless, he's on 10.5 and won't be able to use CFW without a hardmod.

 

[Jaay_]

CFW isn't a file, it stands for Custom Firmware, like the PSP scene term. CFW lets you run CIA files (which are like WAD files from the Wii). CIA files can do whatever they want, including things like dynamic recompilers (which is how emulators like Dolphin, PPSSPP, PCSX-ReARMed, etc., on computers and phones get good speeds). Since you're more or less asking what these are, we can assume you don't have CFW. What firmware is your 3DS on? If it's low enough, you could install CFW (or downgrade and then install CFW), in order to run the CIA versions to get better performance.

Ninja'd: Saw 10.5. On 10.5 you can't get CFW without a hardmod + downgrade.

Without CFW, don't expect PS1 to run very well. The New 3DS, even though it's clocked much higher than the O3DS, is still not capable of running PS1 at full speed without CFW, basically.

That's a bit of a bummer I don't wanna go poking around in my 3DS' innards so I that kinda throws PSX out the window. Is there any other ways to run it or is that the end of the story?

 

[Orphen07]

I was wondering how do I go about running a .CIA file? Is it the same as running a 3DSX file or do I have to run it differently? Also is what's a CFW file?

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I'm not overly sure what a CFW file is but if it helps I'm running a 3DSX file using menuhax.

You can run .CIA files by installing them via a CIA installer; FBI, and BigBlueBox come to mind. And, I'm pretty sure daxtsu meant, "Are you using Custom Firmware," not a CFW file, which (to my knowledge) does not exist.

 

[Joom]

That's a bit of a bummer I don't wanna go poking around in my 3DS' innards so I that kinda throws PSX out the window. Is there any other ways to run it or is that the end of the story?

That's pretty much the end. Though there are modders here that'll do the mod for you if you feel comfortable enough to send your system to them.

 

[daxtsu]

That's a bit of a bummer I don't wanna go poking around in my 3DS' innards so I that kinda throws PSX out the window. Is there any other ways to run it or is that the end of the story?

That's pretty much the end of the story, then.

And, I'm pretty sure daxtsu meant, "Are you using Custom Firmware,

That's exactly what I said. I never asked if he was using a CFW "file". I said, "Are you using CFW/the CIA version?" which was asking "Are you using Custom Firmware, or the CIA version?", just in a shorter-hand form. It wasn't the best way to word it, I'll admit.

 

[Jaay_]

It won't help any. *hax are just entrypoints. Running the emulator directly within the NAND (with a CIA) is the only way to get "decent" speeds.

Thanks, I've been wondering about that but I didn't want to delete my OoT saves so that clears something's up.

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That's pretty much the end. Though there are modders here that'll do the mod for you if you feel comfortable enough to send your system to them.

I don't think I'll mod my 3DS so I guess that's the end of PSX emulation on my 3DS.