Hacking psp slim 2000 what cfw ?

[Shabutie78]

GEN fails to address the changes Sony made from 3.80 to the MS access driver. GEN also fails to cover the gamut of older less popular homebrew.

GEN offers nothing these days over M33 as you still need to patch new games. GEN lost features that M33 had but gained the ability to run new games. Those new games are now old games and both firmwares require patched games now.

GEN is redundant, moreso than M33 as it offers less. GEN =/= Prometheus

i'm not quite sure how this is relevant. but good job.
i know GEN isn't prometheus, you're just nitpicking.
i refer to 5.50 GEN-D3 patched with prometheus as just "5.50 GEN" because there's no reason to use 5.50 GEN without prometheus. and there's no reason for me to have to type out "5.50 GEN-D3 patched with prometheus-4" since most people on here have common sense.

edit:
"here" being GBAtemp. (for those without common sense)

edit again:
i can see you're trying to start a little war. you've even resorted to nitpicking at my terminology (that means the words i use) to make yourself feel better or look smarter.
i'll end it now by saying that you win, and avoid arguing over irrelevant petty subjects (such as, the difference between GEN and GEN patched with prometheus)

 

[xist]

GEN is NOT Prometheus. It's you who's nitpicking really and like you i don't want an argument

It's like 5.00M33-6 with the Prome addon isn't really M33

You can't just say that GEN is Prometheus when the compatibilities differ.

 

[Shabutie78]

GEN is NOT Prometheus. It's you who's nitpicking really and like you i don't want an argument

It's like 5.00M33-6 with the Prome addon isn't really M33

You can't just say that GEN is Prometheus when the compatibilities differ.

how am i nitpicking? >.>
you're the one complaining about the terms i'm using, and trying to say i'm wrong, lol..
if you read my previous posts you'd know that i said to upgrade to GEN-D3 and patch with prometheus-4.
and from therein, i referred to the final product (which, again, is 5.50 GEN-D3 patched with prometheus-4), as simply "5.50 GEN."
i was referring to "5.50 GEN-D3 patched with prometheus-4" as "5.50 GEN" for short, and for some reason you have such a problem with that.

fuck, i fell back into the irrelevant and immature argument.

 

[xist]

It doesn't matter what you imply. GEN just plain isn't Prometheus. You can't say that's what I personally meant when it can lead to confusion. The compatibilities of games and homebrew differ and the integral components are not the same.

In your terms fine, GEN = Prometheus but in reality it's not. Terming it the way you do just leads to confusion when people are discussing firmwares.

 

[mechagouki]

if you want to be completely stable, i recommend going to 5.00 M33 with hellcat's recovery, and then upgrading to 5.50 GEN-D3, then patching to Prometheus-4.

That's exactly what I did and if you're a relative PSP noob (like me), it has to be the best way to play ISO,CSO PSX/PSP and homebrew with zero fiddling about. My 1001 loads everything, no crashes, it just does what I want. I'm sure there will be full 6.xx hacks eventually, but with a huge back catalogue of PSP (and PSX) games that already work perfectly on 5.50 prome-4 I see no reason to change at the moment.

 

[Shabutie78]

It doesn't matter what you imply. GEN just plain isn't Prometheus. You can't say that's what I personally meant when it can lead to confusion. The compatibilities of games and homebrew differ and the integral components are not the same.

In your terms fine, GEN = Prometheus but in reality it's not. Terming it the way you do just leads to confusion when people are discussing firmwares.
do you know what the word "term" means?
it's the "term" i chose to use instead of "5.50 GEN-D3 patched with prometheus-4" because it's SHORTER.
i never said 5.50 GEN-D3 = 5.50 GEN-D3 patched with prometheus-4.
i simply shortened my typing to 5.50 GEN, because it takes too long to type "5.50 GEN-D3 patched with prometheus-4" each time i refer to it.
and i didn't have it on CTRL+C because i wasn't expecting to have to explain why i chose to use a shortened term because most fucking people on here have at least a little bit of common sense and know when someone is using a shorthand way of typing and don't cry about it and try to prove their point when THERE'S NO WAY THEY CAN BE RIGHT.
you're saying the same exact thing i am. GEN-D3 =/= PROMETHEUS.
I NEVER SAID IT'S THE SAME THING.
EACH TIME I SAID 5.50 GEN I MEANT 5.50 GEN-D3 patched with prometheus-4 5.50 GEN-D3 patched with prometheus-4 5.50 GEN-D3 patched with prometheus-4 5.50 GEN-D3 patched with prometheus-4.
i'm not implying anything. it's common fucking sense that i was referring to it in a shorter term.

now do you understand? or do i need to CTRL+V some more for you? of all the arguments over the internet, this has to be one of the most pointless ones. and it's your fucking fault for nitpicking.
if only i had gone to sleep last night.

QUOTE(Shabutie78 @ Mar 29 2011, 10:29 AM) if you want to be completely stable, i recommend going to 5.00 M33 with hellcat's recovery, and then upgrading to 5.50 GEN-D3, then patching to Prometheus-4.

That's exactly what I did and if you're a relative PSP noob (like me), it has to be the best way to play ISO,CSO PSX/PSP and homebrew with zero fiddling about. My 1001 loads everything, no crashes, it just does what I want. I'm sure there will be full 6.xx hacks eventually, but with a huge back catalogue of PSP (and PSX) games that already work perfectly on 5.50 prome-4 I see no reason to change at the moment.

you joined teh thread at teh wrong time :[

anyway, glad to hear it. and you're right, stay on 5.50 GEN (or 5.50 GEN-D3 patched with prometheus-4 as xist needs it spelled out) for maximum stability. wait until plugins, homebrew, and pops are fully supported on 6.xx CFWs.

 

[xist]

Actually i don't understand why you'd refer to Prometheus firmware using the name of a base firmware it's installed upon rather than just as Prome-4

 

[Shabutie78]

Actually i don't understand why you'd refer to Prometheus firmware using the name of a base firmware it's installed upon rather than just as Prome-4

then you lack common sense. which has been my point this entire time.
you win. *bows*

 

[xist]

Right....common sense. I see your point entirely. From this point henceforth i'll start referring to M33 as OE since long ago DAX worked on that one.

 

[Shabutie78]

Right....common sense. I see your point entirely. From this point henceforth i'll start referring to M33 as OE since long ago DAX worked on that one.

thus, further proving my point.

 

[Rydian]

Gah, i hate your staff perq's of invisible edits....

It's invisible by default, and I actually have to go to the full edit page to turn that off per-post.

But yeah, stupid typo.

 

[mechagouki]

Calling it just "Prome-4" surely doesn't make sense - Prometheus just adds extra functionality to GEN-D3 right? It's not actually a firmware, more of a permanent plugin, at least that's the way I understand it.

 

[Shabutie78]

Actually i don't understand why you'd refer to Prometheus firmware using the name of a base firmware it's installed upon rather than just as Prome-4
because 5.50 GEN is the base firmware. prometheus-4 is a patch.
QUOTERight....common sense. I see your point entirely. From this point henceforth i'll start referring to M33 as OE since long ago DAX worked on that one.

5.50 GEN is much closer to prometheus-4 than M33 is to OE, considering the fact that prometheus-4 is a patch for 5.50 GEN (though not exclusively.)

basically, when i initially started referring to 5.50 GEN-D3 patched with prometheus-4 as "5.50 GEN" i should have put a notice that says "(herein referred to as '5.50 GEN')".
but i didn't because anyone with common sense would know that's what was taking place. and the notice wasn't needed.
however, for you - it was needed. because you clearly didn't get the hint. ie; you lack the common sense to afford the realization without actually reading said notice.

and i'm done. zzzzzzzzz

 

[xist]

Calling it just "Prome-4" surely doesn't make sense - Prometheus just adds extra functionality to GEN-D3 right? It's not actually a firmware, more of a permanent plugin, at least that's the way I understand it.

Prome-4 does to GEN what DAX's M33 updates did to OFW. The compatibilities differ because of changes made to the fundamentals. Shabutie unfortunately refuses to acknowledge how confusing it can be to refer to one thing as another, as by that same logic you could argue that M33 is OFW, or GEN is M33.

GEN isn't Prometheus and people just starting on CFW should be confused by that lack of differentiation. And if that upsets someone enough for them to decide that someone needs to "win" in a conversation, then frankly, maybe i don't understand people these days.

 

[tbgtbg]

and no, 1.50 kernel is only supported in PSP phats.

Doesn't time machine let 1.50 run on 2000's?

 

[jogydoby]

Thank you to everyone for sorta clearing that up. So, say I wanted to upgrade to 6.35 and use Pro-B3. I really only use my PSP for games so I'd rather have the latest firmware than compatibility with homebrew. Anyway, say I use Pro-B3 and hate it. Is it still possible to downgrade my PSP and reinstall Gen-D3 with Prome-4?

 

[mechagouki]

Thank you to everyone for sorta clearing that up. So, say I wanted to upgrade to 6.35 and use Pro-B3. I really only use my PSP for games so I'd rather have the latest firmware than compatibility with homebrew. Anyway, say I use Pro-B3 and hate it. Is it still possible to downgrade my PSP and reinstall Gen-D3 with Prome-4?

Yes, using HEN and the hellcats tool.

 

[xist]

and no, 1.50 kernel is only supported in PSP phats.

Doesn't time machine let 1.50 run on 2000's?

Not natively. It allows a modified 1.50 which has some 3.40 components. In theory that's great but it's not equivalent to a complete 1.50 environment and not all 1.50 compatibility is there.

 

[-=oopeteroo=-]

uhmmm i dont understand a shit xD

 

[xist]

Get the OFW 5.00 eboot and Dark Alex's 5.00M33-6 CFW update and update to 5.00 M33-6 (read the readme in the M33-6 update...it's faster than explaining if you just read it!)
From there just follow the instructions in the sticky to get to Prome 4.

Or just use Hellcats Recovery Flasher to update to 5.00M33 as detailed in the sticky to get to Prome 4