PSP Go is Dead

[Goli]

Spoiler

You can play downloaded ISOs, on a hacked PSPGo right?

Yeah, you can.

Nowadays you don't even have to hack your PSP to play downloaded ISOs, as some people on a certain website know of a way to sign the games and have them run in OFW.

 

[KingVamp]

Yeah, I'll definitely pick up one of these then.
You should really save up to something new. :/

QUOTE(Foxi4 @ Apr 20 2011, 08:39 AM) Good. I'm glad the trend didn't catch on.

I feel an odd sensation of satisfaction when I have my media stored on physical devices and I REALLY like jewelcases.

What's the point in collecting something you can't put on your shelves.

Flash ftw! Down with digital distribution, down with optical discs!

The about the same here. Idk about down digital distribution all together tho.

Oh and the 3D actually add something new to the game other than more graphics!

(Stay back Guild stay back)

 

[Guild McCommunist]

Yeah but at least the games Nintendo is remaking are ones that were huge sellers in their hay day. Star Fox 64 and Zelda: Ocarina of Time are two of the biggest titles that fans have been wanting remade for 15 years and it's finally happening. These types of games aren't just any average games, they were some of the highest reviewed titles of all time originally. Will they hold the same value and enjoyable experiences that the originals had? For sure, it's been a long time for some people and even the younger generation will be able to truly experience and understand why people love those titles so much. I don't think they will get the same kinds of reviews as before, but whatever.

The difference is though, the games being ported to the NGP are fairly recent, not 15-20 year old classics, which is why people dislike the idea. Not to mention they aren't the types of games that sold a shit load of PS3 consoles either. On the same token, Metal Gear Solid: Snake Eater didn't sell well on the Xbox and it deserves to sell on a recognized platform, something the Xbox wasn't at that time. Nintendo could probably remake Super Mario 64 with new graphics and stuff and it would sell like hot cakes, Sony couldn't remake any one of their own franchises and have it sell nearly as well because Sony's biggest franchises haven't transitioned well over to the PS3 and so they aren't as recognized.

People would shit bricks if Square Enix remade Final Fantasy 7 and 9 for the NGP though.

Um, why remake games that were "huge sellers" in their hay day? If anything games should be remade if they didn't sell well so they have a second chance.

To the best of my knowledge there haven't been any (or many) games announced for the NGP.

Snake Eater IS NOT on the Xbox. You're thinking of MGS2 (Substance is on the Xbox). If you meant the PS2, then it sold nearly 4 million copies worldwide. Not as much as the approximate 7 million of MGS2, but 4 million is still a lot.

They did remake Super Mario 64 on the DS version (and the graphics do look much better).

First off, your argument is completely based around sales, which is completely stupid. If you base how good a game is or how worthy it is to be remade based on sales, fans should be absolutely DYING for a Wii Play remake. Second off, your argument also seems to come down to "Nintendo games are better because they're Nintendo", which then leads back to oj's point, which I thoroughly agree with.

QUOTE(KingVamp @ Apr 20 2011, 09:06 PM) The about the same here. Idk about down digital distribution all together tho.

Oh and the 3D actually add something new to the game other than more graphics!

(Stay back Guild stay back)

lolSteam.

Seriously, digital distribution is the future. Yeah, sure, some people like to "collect" their games, but on the other hand, most people buy games to buy games. Plus digital distribution lets tons of smaller titles flourish. It's also quite convenient (it's usually just quicker to download the game than go out to a store and buy it), cheaper (some games will launch for like $10 less on Steam, and the sales get crazy), and it's just better than fumbling around with a bunch of discs. I don't feel my e-peen getting any larger because I bought a physical copy of a game compared to if I bought a digital copy.

And why are you bringing 3DS stuff into this thread? I'm not gonna even bite, it's like you're trying to derail the thread.

 

[KingVamp]

Agreed. I call it the "double game".

1. Shitty CPU? Make it double.
2. Shitty cameras? Make it double.
3. Shitty frequency/Flops per-CPU? Regrettably, make it double.
= 3DS.

They came up with it right after GBA-Era, lol.

...plus, Gimmick mode.

"When in doubt, add a gimmick to your outdated technology. People will pick it up as a display of genious and ingenuity when in fact, you're just saving money on the parts again".

Cause I'm not the one that brought it in.

It wasn't directed at you. I just thought you would still comment on it.

Hopefully I never will have to be force to digital distribution only.

 

[Guild McCommunist]

Cause I'm not the one that brought it in.

Let's see, my only other comment on this thread I'm pretty sure is...

QUOTE(Guild McCommunist @ Apr 20 2011, 01:14 PM) Yeah, I'll definitely pick up one of these then.

Yep, definitely bringing up the 3DS. What the fuck are you talking about?

 

[Law]

Cause I'm not the one that brought it in.

Let's see, my only other comment on this thread I'm pretty sure is...

QUOTE(Guild McCommunist @ Apr 20 2011, 01:14 PM) Yeah, I'll definitely pick up one of these then.

Yep, definitely bringing up the 3DS. What the fuck are you talking about?

Do yourself a huge favour and put him on your ignore list. It makes every thread 100 times better

 

[Ikki]

Cause I'm not the one that brought it in.

Let's see, my only other comment on this thread I'm pretty sure is...

QUOTE(Guild McCommunist @ Apr 20 2011, 01:14 PM) Yeah, I'll definitely pick up one of these then.

Yep, definitely bringing up the 3DS. What the fuck are you talking about?

Could you guys please not start with this for once?

 

[Slyakin]

Do yourself a huge favour and put him on your ignore list. It makes every thread 100 times better

This. Plus one million.

Seeing you two bitching with each other makes me want to punch something.

On topic then, I think the PSP Go is the perfect pirate device. It's not a bad deal.

 

[Guild McCommunist]

Do yourself a huge favour and put him on your ignore list. It makes every thread 100 times better

Lol, it does help. Thanks

But yeah, back to the topic, it really only seems the Go haters are people who never owned one or never will. Hell, I used to think it was stupid. Then the price started going down (especially in used sales) and people who bought them actually said they were awesome (at least from a pirate's perspective). From what Go owners here have said, I think it's a worthy device.

 

[Law]

and re: the whole "Sony games don't work well as remakes"

I'd love a Crash Bandicoot remake about as much as you'd love a Super Mario 64 Remake, except that I don't see the point of a Crash Bandicoot remake because I already played the hell out of the game and would rather play something new. That's not to say I wouldn't like and play the fuck out of a Crash Bandicoot remake, but that I realise things come to an end.

Remakes should never be needed, not even of Nintendo's "GOLD STANDARD" video games.

 

[KingVamp]

If you actually read the topic and stop hating on me you see where it came from.

Anyway I would never want digital distribution only device.

 

[Foxi4]

^ That. I feel discomfort when I'm forced to rely on someone else's server to store information on what I have and don't have. In the age of ze internetz, no information is 100% secure. My purchases may vanish at any time. Not only that, but if a given service is discontinued and I don't currently have my purchases on the system, I can wave goodbye to them.

 

[Guild McCommunist]

^ That. I feel discomfort when I'm forced to rely on someone else's server to store information on what I have and don't have. In the age of ze internetz, no information is 100% secure. My purchases may vanish at any time. Not only that, but if a given service is discontinued and I don't currently have my purchases on the system, I can wave goodbye to them.

I can download a PSP game on my Go and not need an internet connection to keep playing it. It's not like you're playing it off their server, you're playing it off your device. Really, I don't see anything really "dangerous" about digital distribution when you could have easily just step on a physical copy of a game and snap it in half or have it scratched up after years of playing. At least when something goes wrong with my digitally distributed game I can redownload it or contact customer service for some type of help. It's not like Nintendo customer service will send you a new copy of Super Mario Galaxy because you accidentally stepped on your old copy.

 

[Foxi4]

Re-read what I wrote.

If I don't have a given game on "the Go" at the moment, I just don't - I can't insert it "on the go", I can't pull out a physical media device and jam it in. I gotta log on first and then I can re-up it.

If the service is discontinued, all my purchases go *poof*.

If the service gets hacked, which is entirely possible, my purchases go *poof*

I realize I don't play it off their server. The server stores my license information though. Without said informantion, there's no way in hell I can prove that I bought the game in the first place.

Seeing that every service before PSN and XBox Live eventually met its demise...

...and if your old media devices get "scratched", "damadged" or "broken in half", you clearly don't take good care of them. Tell that stuff to vinyl disc and Commdore tapes collectors.

 

[xist]

Some games actually have been removed from the PSN in the past rendering purchases non-redownloadable (i can't remember the exact example but i do remember the furore on the Gamefaqs PSP board). The simple fact is that your purchases are never your own if it's digital and Sony get you cash but give you no guaranteed rights in return.

At least physical products have a measure of security.

 

[Guild McCommunist]

Re-read what I wrote.

If I don't have a given game on "the Go" at the moment, I just don't - I can't insert it "on the go", I can't pull out a physical media device and jam it in. I gotta log on first and then I can re-up it.

If the service is discontinued, all my purchases go *poof*.

If the service gets hacked, which is entirely possible, my purchases go *poof*

I realize I don't play it off their server. The server stores my license information though. Without said informantion, there's no way in hell I can prove that I bought the game in the first place.

Seeing that every service before PSN and XBox Live eventually met its demise...

...and if your old media devices get "scratched", "damadged" or "broken in half", you clearly don't take good care of them. Tell that stuff to vinyl disc and Commdore tapes collectors.

It's called preparation. Realizing if you're going somewhere to put a game on the system. Plus, most people who buy the system honestly since pirate for it so there's no issue of ownership.

Even if your "purchases" are gone, you'll still have the games. I can download 5 PSP games on my Go, switch the WiFi off, and never turn it on again. And to the best of my knowledge, those games will always be there.

You're thinking too much about "what ifs" and not what's actually happened so far. PSN and XBLA work fine. Steam works fine. Not many people who use digital distribution complain about it. It definitely has some cons but the pros are usually better.

Plus it's definitely possible for a game to just get damaged through no fault of your own. I owned a copy of Star Wars: Clone Wars for the Gamecube and I played that game so much that it eventually stopped working. I took good care of it and everything, it just stopped working. And people always have accidents or get their shit stolen or a bunch of other things. There's just as many "what ifs" for physical copies as there is for digital distribution.

I mean you have all the right to not want to use it because you enjoy physical media, but to say that digital distribution services should just roll over and die is pretty silly.

 

[KingVamp]

There is a possibility you accidentally deleting your games, but I guess that follow under "what ifs".

Anyway while reading you post it made it seem (not saying you are) that physical media should just roll over and die. Which is what the psp go was design to do.

That not part of your point is it?

 

[Jolan]

You know what would be a killer digital download service? Steam on NGP.

 

[Foxi4]

I suppose it's a simple difference in opinions.

In my future, I can go to a store, pick up a game and play it as soon as I open the box.

In your future, you have to set your PSP5 aside for 4 hours so that it has just about enough time to download Metal Gear Solid 8.

Broken or scratched discs can be replaced. When your download goes *poof*, it goes *poof* and you can't do jack about that. In 20 years time, I'll be able to get my retro games and you won't - PSN will be long gone by then, and if you think they'll keep 20 year old games on whetever follows, you're dead-wrong. Also, 5 games = not that much. I have a tendency to change the game I play every hour or two. I'd need to carry 20.

Epic:

Not epic at all:

You'd be quite suprised, but as far as I remember, the majority of gamers, especially ones who like retro games prefere physical storage devices over downloads.

 

[MelodieOctavia]

If you build a console that by nature does not allow used games it WILL fail, PC excluded. If you build a console that does not support previous purchases (whether that be UMD or otherwise) it WILL fail. If you build a console these days that does not support backwards compatibility, it WILL fail.

Looks like the NGP is dead in the water before release.