PS1/2 PS1 literally burns the CD

[Sono]

Hi!

I have a SCPH-102 PAL model PS1 probably from the UK (it has that funky 3-pin connector on the power adaptor, so I had to use an adaptor). My problem is that if the PS1 can't read the game disc correctly on the first try, it literally burns the disc, causing the disc to be heavily damaged, rendering the disc completely destroyed.

Spoiler: Burnt disc

Does someone know what causes this, or how can it be repaired? I don't want to destroy another disc.

(Now I'll never find out what kind of game "Drácula (Resurrection)" is, because now it's destroyed)

 

[Tomobobo]

I mean, I have a dwindling old school collection, but I'm starting to value it less and less as emulation and official means of playing these older games becomes more prevalent. Toss the thing, get another at a yard sale for a steal later down the road.

 

[Sono]

Ye, I think I'll never ever plug in my PS1, but I can't afford emulation / buying new hardware, so I'll just stick with my fat PS2 that has to be manually ejected, and I'll try to find a way to install FreeMCLoader on my MemoryCard using a COM or LPT port. Thanks for your answer!

 

[Wisenheimer]

Ye, I think I'll never ever plug in my PS1, but I can't afford emulation / buying new hardware, so I'll just stick with my fat PS2 that has to be manually ejected, and I'll try to find a way to install FreeMCLoader on my MemoryCard using a COM or LPT port. Thanks for your answer!

PS1 emulator runs fine on an older Android phone. I bet you could even swing it on a Pentium IV.

 

[Tomobobo]

Yeah I use my phone and a dualshock (3 and 4 work) with a clip to hold the phone.

Link: http://amzn.com/B00FLLFGO8

I mean even my Nexus 1 ran ps1 just fine.

 

[sarkwalvein]

PS1 emulator runs fine on an older Android phone. I bet you could even swing it on a Pentium IV.

Pentium IV?
Well, back in the day PS1 emulation worked quite OK even in my old Celeron 300.
Hell, even a friend used a Pentium MMX 200MHz successfully with the least requiring games.

 

[Deleted member 333767]

All i can say to the suggestions about using an android smartphone for emulation is 'meh'

Android smartphones are only decent for playing games on if you have a GameKlip, in my opinion.

How much are used PSP nowadays? you're better off getting one of them for PSX games or even better, a kernel-exploitable PS Vita 1000 with dat OLED, aww yeah.

If you want a TV emulation experience, exploitable Playstation TV perhaps?

 

[cvskid]

No one uses pc for emulation anymore, just phones now a days?

 

[Sono]

Meh. I don't think I can emulate PS1 on an i486 with 4M RAM And my old crappy GalaxyY's USB port is for charging/data transfer only, so no DualShock2 for me.

However, if I time it right, my PS2 can play PS1 games.

Spoiler: whut?

For some unknown reason, my PS2 won't read PS1 games at all. But if I time a disk-open and reset at the right time, the tray closes at the same time as the graphics output is initialized, and it loads the disc. Weird, isn't it?

 

[Jayro]

It sounds like your PS1's laser might need a potentiometer adjustment (POT-tweak) to turn down the laser's intensity (Increasing the resistance). You want the resistance up as high as you can, just until it stops reading games, then back off a bit so they read. This will save your laser's lifespan by quite a lot. I adjusted my Gamecube to conserve it's laser's power consumption, while tutorials say to turn the resistance DOWN, which brightens the laser to read burned media, but I always advise against it. Especially for these older consoles, as the parts won't be around forever. The PS2 and PS3 all run legit PS1 game discs, but the PS2 has a special trick up it's sleeve that the PS3, PSP, and Vita can't pull off: Bilinear Texture Filtering! That's right, the 3D textures that make up walls, floors, ceilings, doors, and most other 3D objects in the game look much better with this texture smoothing enabled on the PS2. Silent Hill 1, Digimon Rumble Arena, and Tony Hawk series all benefit from the extra filtering, making the games look as if they are running on an N64, sans the fixed 30FPS framerate.

 

[Muffins]

Buy a PS3.

 

[Cyan]

I didn't know readers could damage discs.
are you sure your disc is spinning? it looks like the burns are at specific spots, not doing circular marks.

so either the laser is randomly over-powering, or the disc is not spinning.
or the disc material are bad and the chemic components at that location react badly to the laser or time. (CD-R life is around 10 years)

 

[Muffins]

Those spots do look more like they're symptomatic of disc rot, Mr. Cyan, that chemical reaction you mentioned.

 

[Sono]

It sounds like your PS1's laser might need a potentiometer adjustment (POT-tweak) to turn down the laser's intensity (Increasing the resistance). You want the resistance up as high as you can, just until it stops reading games, then back off a bit so they read. This will save your laser's lifespan by quite a lot. I adjusted my Gamecube to conserve it's laser's power consumption, while tutorials say to turn the resistance DOWN, which brightens the laser to read burned media, but I always advise against it. Especially for these older consoles, as the parts won't be around forever. The PS2 and PS3 all run legit PS1 game discs, but the PS2 has a special trick up it's sleeve that the PS3, PSP, and Vita can't pull off: Bilinear Texture Filtering! That's right, the 3D textures that make up walls, floors, ceilings, doors, and most other 3D objects in the game look much better with this texture smoothing enabled on the PS2. Silent Hill 1, Digimon Rumble Arena, and Tony Hawk series all benefit from the extra filtering, making the games look as if they are running on an N64, sans the fixed 30FPS framerate.

Thanks, I'll give it a try, I have nothing to lose at this point.

Buy a PS3.

I can't afford that.

I didn't know readers could damage discs.
are you sure your disc is spinning? it looks like the burns are at specific spots, not doing circular marks.

so either the laser is randomly over-powering, or the disc is not spinning.
or the disc material are bad and the chemic components at that location react badly to the laser or time. (CD-R life is around 10 years)

Yeah, I was thinking the same.
I think it's really random over-powering, because the disc is perfectly spinning.

Edit: I have a disc that has a tiny non-circular burn close to the middle, so it's definitely a random overpowering issue.

Those spots do look more like they're symptomatic of disc rot, Mr. Cyan, that chemical reaction you mentioned.

No, it's not caused by the disc rotation, because it's spinning very well.

 

[mgrev]

Meh. I don't think I can emulate PS1 on an i486 with 4M RAM And my old crappy GalaxyY's USB port is for charging/data transfer only, so no DualShock2 for me.

However, if I time it right, my PS2 can play PS1 games.

Spoiler: whut?

For some unknown reason, my PS2 won't read PS1 games at all. But if I time a disk-open and reset at the right time, the tray closes at the same time as the graphics output is initialized, and it loads the disc. Weird, isn't it?

i feel you. that was my previous phone(exept for a (sh)i(t)phone4)