Hardware PS Vita Facts

[Deleted_171835]

Then don't bring it up. Wow how stupid are you.

So its not okay for a device superior hardware to be sold at the same price as a console that is hardly a stop forward in portable gaming and relies on nostaljia to sell better? Well if we all live in the idiotic world of soulx then sure that shit makes sense but fortunately we don't and companies can price their devices how they want. Like I said earlier the Vita's price is alot more justified than the 3DS and I would love to see how you rationalize the 3DS's launch and current price tag since its not even worth $250 when the only thing it can really do is play 3DS games while others atleast can do more than that.

...Who the hell is rationalizing the 3DS's price at launch? Please do tell because I know I didn't say anything along the lines of that in my posts.

I say that the Vita isn't selling because consumers don't want a device that costs $250 and has a paltry game library and you bring up the 3DS? Really?

 

[RodrigoDavy]

My whole point is that just because the 3DS was priced at $250 doesn't automatically make it okay for the Vita to be $250. Consumers just don't want a handheld that costs that much especially with such a paltry game library.

You've got to understand they have to make a profit on the device. The PS3 is a commercial failure unless it gets billions of dollars soon and they don't want a repeat of the PS3. Not to mention they will announce the PS4 sooner or later.

Well, to be fair no one obligated Sony to design such an expensive hardware, if the price is high it is their fault for bad planning...

 

[RodrigoDavy]

http://gbatemp.net/topic/299756-a-reminder-about-respect/

 

[trumpet-205]

Correct me if I am wrong, but in the Vita's case the price is more than justified, due to its capabilities/hardware. Do note that I am not saying it should never go down in price or anything >>;

I wouldn't say it is justified due to hardware. We already know that it cost around $160 to produce a 3G Vita (probably even less, given we are talking about mass produced goods). Even when you consider R&D, packaging, shipping, etc Sony is making a lot of profit on Vita (especially a big profit margin from Vita memory). Do note that ARM processor used it Vita actually only cost around $20.

 

[Foxi4]

I wouldn't say it is justified due to hardware. We already know that it cost around $160 to produce a 3G Vita (probably even less, given we are talking about mass produced goods). Even when you consider R&D, packaging, shipping, etc Sony is making a lot of profit on Vita (especially a big profit margin from Vita memory). Do note that ARM processor used it Vita actually only cost around $20.

Source or it's just your conjuncture.

From what I've read, the profit margin of the Vita per-unit is incredibly small. As you mentioned, $160 are raw production costs - you need to add packaging, shipping, years of R&D, storage, marketing, wages for the factory workers, wages for the people employed in the department and so-on and so-forth.

 

[J-Machine]

I won't lie. the vita is an attractive system and I do believe the cost of it is justifiable. My main concerns currently are that:

1. I buy my games first and once I have at least 4 I start looking for the system. right now I'm only interested in two games (persona 4 and zero escape) but since I have a 3ds and own p4 on ps2 already I'm not going out of my way to get them. If anyone knows of good upcoming exclusives in both the many forms of jrpg's or action adventure let me know and I'll look it up.

2. a lot of retail games need a memory card to save despite them being made on flash based media. this is more of a nitpick and becomes moot as I would be buying a bundle that has one in it.

3. I'm still content with the game library and graphical abilities of the psp.

4. I'm currently getting out of college debt so I'm not at liberty to feel good about getting a second current gen handheld despite technically being able to afford it.(I only got the 3ds cause it was $120 with a free game and figured that's as cheap as it will be for a while) 'm also only buying games for around $20 or under or borrowing from friends

tldr: I'd like one but I dunno what games I'd like on it so far nor would feel comfortable making a purchase for about a year from now. it is a luxury after all.

 

[Foxi4]

Right, the last three pages have been bawbawbawing between soulx and JAG with very little substance in-between.

Thread reported for clean-up, and you're both equally at fault. Can't we just get along?

 

[Vulpes Abnocto]

Would you kindly find the topic and quit insulting each other? Nobody wants to read your bickering.

 

[duffmmann]

Vita is what it is. its doing poor, but hey, the 3DS did poor at first too. I'm gonna give it some more time before I truly consider it a failure. But as it is, I don't think things are looking very up.

Its a powerful machine, no doubt about that, but power alone doesn't make a handheld great, games do. And just like the DS vs the PSP, while the DS was less powerful it had the greater appeal and the larger abundance of great games (which isn't to say the PSP didn't have its own great games, it had plenty), which is why it ultimately sold more than the PSP.

 

[Just Another Gamer]

Vita is what it is. its doing poor, but hey, the 3DS did poor at first too. I'm gonna give it some more time before I truly consider it a failure. But as it is, I don't think things are looking very up.

Its a powerful machine, no doubt about that, but power alone doesn't make a handheld great, games do. And just like the DS vs the PSP, while the DS was less powerful it had the greater appeal and the larger abundance of great games (which isn't to say the PSP didn't have its own great games, it had plenty), which is why it ultimately sold more than the PSP.

Its weird but wasn't it that the PSP did better once it was fully hacked and you can run emulators and stuff on it?

I mean looking at the Vita now, I hope it finally gets real CFW just so it can play all PSX and PSP games on it cause Sony really didn't put that extra effort in to make sure it was really backwards compatible.

 

[gamefan5]

Well I'm waiting the console to pick up steam. Perhaps it will. Perhaps it will not. If it doesn't, well that's life I guess. Some consoles were just never meant to be.

 

[Just Another Gamer]

Well I'm waiting the console to pick up steam. Perhaps it will. Perhaps it will not. If it doesn't, well that's life I guess. Some consoles were just never meant to be.

I'm sure it will. Cause didn't the PSP and PS3 start of pretty bad but things picked up for it later on in its life.

 

[heartgold]

Facts thread.

Here's one, Vita's worldwide sales are trending behind japan only dreamcast. Vita is fucked. It's no fanboy to say vita sales sucks.It's a fact and Sony needs to shift that gear.

 

[weavile001]

dont think that vita is a bad console,so far , the games that i bought are very good: Rayman origins,ultimate marvel vs. capcom 3 and uncharted G.abyss.

 

[Lurker2]

I wouldn't say it is justified due to hardware. We already know that it cost around $160 to produce a 3G Vita (probably even less, given we are talking about mass produced goods). Even when you consider R&D, packaging, shipping, etc Sony is making a lot of profit on Vita (especially a big profit margin from Vita memory). Do note that ARM processor used it Vita actually only cost around $20.

Source or it's just your conjuncture.

From what I've read, the profit margin of the Vita per-unit is incredibly small. As you mentioned, $160 are raw production costs - you need to add packaging, shipping, years of R&D, storage, marketing, wages for the factory workers, wages for the people employed in the department and so-on and so-forth.

They also don't own all the patents for parts in the machine so that adds to it.

• They buy it wholesale so it may be quite a bit lower then $160
• Distributing said item
• Server costs
• Manuals and packaging of the item
• Warranty and item failures
• Patent rights and possible licensing fees in certain regions
• Research and Development costs
• Profit for the retailer selling it
• Wages for programmers, engineers and customer support
• Costs to build parts said parts and general manufacturing costs.

Their previous marketing campaign cost $50 Million.