PS Jailbreak - The first PS3 Modchip

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Crazzy1 said:
Rock Raiyu said:
PS Jailbreak disables forced software updates

But what if we want to update
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then you want to potentially lose your $170AUD backup loader
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OrGoN3 said:
Fun_Zephyr said:
I can promise you this works. I have one pre ordered. I was at OzModChips today and watched him using it in from of me. There was an external HDD and several games backed up on it. (Games can be stored on an external FAT32 drive OR the PS3 Internal Drive. Some games will be required to copy to the internal HDD due to some single game files being greater than 4Gb.

You can copy straight from Disc to either HDD.

As a disc is required to be in the PS3 I saw God of War III in the Drive but watched a different game get selected from a list and then be played.

It is 100% genuine.

It might seem pricey but think about what it does. A single game can cost over $100. If you damaged a few games then it pays for itself. being able to play straight from HDD - worth the price.

EDIT: I meant God of War III. Sorry for the Typo.

Yeah? Name one that isn't some stupid special edition package that comes with a gimmick. The point of the matter here is that, if you are downloading the games, you are screwed. Comcast has a cap of 200-250GB/month. Most other ISPs have similar followings. If you're ripping the games from Gamefly, then I guess this could be worth it. But in the end, you're still paying for Gamefly AND this.

See where I'm going? It is just very pricey for something that is just stolen. Plus, all Sony has to do to block this is disable the USB ports during boot. Done.

I've never had any problems with FIOS capping my bandwidth. I've done 300-500GB/month on several occasions without issue.
 
Crazzy1 said:
Rock Raiyu said:
PS Jailbreak disables forced software updates

But what if we want to update
ohnoes.png

What if they keep track of which consoles are in debug mode when started when playing online? All of a sudden, they see a lot pop up. BAN. In the whole for another $299USD or more. Until it's been proven to be 100% stealth in every situation, then I might get a clone. But Sony still can block it whenever they want with an update, and I like to keep my system up to date. It's a step in the right direction, but I'm still sticking with the fact that it is pricey and comes with no guarantee of working with the next update.

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@doyama
I said most, not all. I too have FiOS and can confirm there is no feasible cap, at least in my area. There is also no cap on my service guarantee (but then again, there wasn't one with Comcast either, although mine wasn't capped). I'm not saying it's SOL for everyone. It just takes that much longer to get a single game, some folks will be capped to a few games a month if they aren't ripping their own.....It's the first next gen media [Blu-Ray] console to be hacked (and that exists). Everyone is used to files that are 5-10 times smaller than PS3 games. Even though most of the games are not /that/ large (as in the ones that are on PS3 and X360).
 
Crazzy1 said:
Rock Raiyu said:
PS Jailbreak disables forced software updates

But what if we want to update
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Forced updates are the updates that are on discs I think. Much like Nintendo has there updates in their games. I think this is what it means. So you can update if you want, the jigstick, they said, is updateable.

It looks like it also may be undetectable since the jigstick boots before the firmware does, and it's a reverse engineered copy of what Sony uses to fix PS3's. So I don't think Sony will be fixing this for a while.
 
psykobug said:
a fench site tested it with a burnt BR disc , it don't work . you need to insert the original BR in your ps3 . so no massive internet piracy for now
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Not necessarily. If you can rip a game to the FAT32 HDD on the PS3, then you can connect the HDD to the PC and upload the files within to the usual places.
 
Slims can play PS1, yes.

Pure speculation, but down the line I could see a Popstation-like program that will let you inject PS1 games into their commercial emulator.

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you can play backups without a game in driver right?

And on that bit, OzModChips have said you need a disc in the drive. Probably a game, but it might work with a blu-ray i guess.
 
hundshamer said:
psykobug said:
a fench site tested it with a burnt BR disc , it don't work . you need to insert the original BR in your ps3 . so no massive internet piracy for now
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Not necessarily. If you can rip a game to the FAT32 HDD on the PS3, then you can connect the HDD to the PC and upload the files within to the usual places.

You need ANY retail PS3 game in the drive for this to work. It doesn't matter what it is, it just needs to be there so the dongle can activate bdemu.

Also, slims, and all PS3s actually, can play PS3 and PS1 games natively (retail discs or downloads). PS2 compatibility was removed to remind consumers to purchase the still active stock of PS2, or to get PS2 to die. Probably the former since they are still allowing 3rd party vendors to release games on PS2 (ie, Madden 11).
 
the thing is, you can update from discs if need be, up until now there has been no patch to detect this, so all current firmwares are fine.

@other_australians: i dont even bother going into places like eb anymore, everything is WAY overpriced (in comparison to the rest of the world), and Yahtzee is right to complain... overpriced and overtime, thats why so much piracy happens in the first place, and thats why it gets so out of hand in the long run... first; get the game before retail release (by months for ssbb), then it just becomes easier because games just keep not getting released...
 
Expect second-hand sales of old sports games to fly up when the device gets cheaper, just so people have a game to boot this with.
 
OrGoN3 said:
Crazzy1 said:
Rock Raiyu said:
PS Jailbreak disables forced software updates

But what if we want to update
ohnoes.png

What if they keep track of which consoles are in debug mode when started when playing online? All of a sudden, they see a lot pop up. BAN. In the whole for another $299USD or more. Until it's been proven to be 100% stealth in every situation, then I might get a clone. But Sony still can block it whenever they want with an update, and I like to keep my system up to date. It's a step in the right direction, but I'm still sticking with the fact that it is pricey and comes with no guarantee of working with the next update.

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@doyama
I said most, not all. I too have FiOS and can confirm there is no feasible cap, at least in my area. There is also no cap on my service guarantee (but then again, there wasn't one with Comcast either, although mine wasn't capped). I'm not saying it's SOL for everyone. It just takes that much longer to get a single game, some folks will be capped to a few games a month if they aren't ripping their own.....It's the first next gen media [Blu-Ray] console to be hacked (and that exists). Everyone is used to files that are 5-10 times smaller than PS3 games. Even though most of the games are not /that/ large (as in the ones that are on PS3 and X360).

I agree that caps are much more of problem especially outside of North America. We're really spoiled with the whole 'unlimited' thing in all aspects. Sort of the irony is that, for probably 70-80% of people, a metered system for bandwidth or their cellphone usage would actually be cheaper than the 'all you can eat' or tiered system we use now. It's an interesting psychological phenomenon that we seem to want consistency in our bills, rather than it being cheaper. And people wonder why Americans score so low in math every year.

Also his quote of $100AUD for a game is typical in Australia for the 'basic' version not any of the typical collector editions. MSRP for games there can range from $98 AUD to $120 AUD. I'm assuming his quote of $100 is in AUD since his tag indicates so.

I'm not sure how that translates in comparison of cost of living though. What I mean there is although from a pure currency perspective 1GBP=1.5USD, the buying power locally of 1GBP is basically equivalent to 1USD here. But from what I've heard games are still relatively expensive compared to the standard of living.

They also have their own version of Jack Thompson who's actually in government with real power. So just be glad our Jack is just a raving lunatic in Florida, and not enacting actual laws making games the equivalent of death training simulators.
 
Erm, didn't Sony say they couldn't software emulate the PS2 properly because apparently the PS2's GPU characteristics involving RAM and bandwidth is incompatible with the PS3's architecture and would be difficult to emulate properly.

The early PS3s could do it because they had some PS2 parts in them and they are now not present PS3s.

Man, they couldn't even emulate PS1 properly, some games I own don't even run - I would be surprised if PS2 gets emulated properly.
 
Christopher8827 said:
Erm, didn't Sony say they couldn't software emulate the PS2 properly because apparently the PS2's GPU characteristics involving RAM and bandwidth is incompatible with the PS3's architecture and would be difficult to emulate properly.

The early PS3s could do it because they had some PS2 parts in them and they are now not present PS3s.

Man, they couldn't even emulate PS1 properly, some games I own don't even run - I would be surprised if PS2 gets emulated properly.

they should make a ps3 version with full backwards compability, would sell really good ^^
 
overlord00 said:
the thing is, you can update from discs if need be, up until now there has been no patch to detect this, so all current firmwares are fine.

@other_australians: i dont even bother going into places like eb anymore, everything is WAY overpriced (in comparison to the rest of the world), and Yahtzee is right to complain... overpriced and overtime, thats why so much piracy happens in the first place, and thats why it gets so out of hand in the long run... first; get the game before retail release (by months for ssbb), then it just becomes easier because games just keep not getting released...
Yes, because Australia, being the shitty tiny spec of dirt on the rest of the world that it is, is the main party responsible for piracy. (Note I assume you didn't mean that but the way you worded it makes it seem that way.) Other countries have way cheaper (read as: half) prices than we do, and yet they still pirate. The real reason is the pirates don't want to pay for anything. And why would you if you can get it for free? Hell, even the people who do pirate that I know, do it purely because they can, not for any of those reasons you've listed.

Just because no firmware up until now has included a patch to detect this (obviously), doesn't mean there definitely won't be in the near future.
 

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