PS Jailbreak - The first PS3 Modchip

[Rock Raiyu]

That is yet to be seen. I have heard that the new units were able to be upgraded. It is all heirsay anyway.

But who do you trust more, the guy who made the exploit or the guy who copied the exploit? The guy who made the exploit has the knowledge to change it. The guy who copied it does not, since he only copied it.

It's like school. 2 guys get a 95 on test. One guy cheated off of the other guy. Do you think the guy who cheated is just as smart as the guy who didn't cheat? If these were medical students, who would you trust to operate on you, the guy who cheated, or the guy who did it fair and square?
That's missing the point entirely though.

A clone is by definition, a copy of the original meaning that they pretty much have the same hardware. Since they have the same hardware, they should be able to run the same software as well otherwise, it wouldn't a clone.

Just like the R4 clones, they may be copy of the original R4 BUT they can still run the same software as the original.

QUOTE(Rock Raiyu @ Aug 27 2010, 03:46 PM) I don't see why people think that the JailBreak is what has to be updated considering that the Backup Manager is what loads the games. All the PSJailbreak does it put it into debug mode right? If that is the case, then that's all it needs to do. What needs to be updated is the Backup Manager, not the PSJailbreak but correct me if I'm wrong.

This is correct for game updates, however the concern is Sony doing something to remove dev mode in the first place.

I don't think they would do this considering they will need to run debug mode in order to test newer software and games. If they DO make an update that kills it, they would still need to update their PS3's to make sure it still runs under the same conditions ours does. 360's and Wii's use debug modes so you can fix their consoles have Nintendo or Microsoft haven't acted upon blocking those off because they need it.

But that's just my theory. But only a theory, I'm not claiming it as a fact.

 

[ModchipCentral]

I just read this.

Well well, Sony may have thwarted sellers of the PSJailbreak, but it looks like the damage has already been done. The guys at X3jailbreak have been true to their word and cloned PSJailbreak successfully. A third party trusted website has confirmed this and posted pics of a load of the clone. Wholesale will apparently commence next week and the final retail price is set for $50-$60.

There's no IC chips on the USB sticks on the pictures of X3Jailbreak.

Anyone can just make PCB's.

To me, thats not proof enough.

 

[Livin in a box]

I just read this.

Well well, Sony may have thwarted sellers of the PSJailbreak, but it looks like the damage has already been done. The guys at X3jailbreak have been true to their word and cloned PSJailbreak successfully. A third party trusted website has confirmed this and posted pics of a load of the clone. Wholesale will apparently commence next week and the final retail price is set for $50-$60.

There's no IC chips on the USB sticks on the pictures of X3Jailbreak.

Anyone can just make PCB's.

To me, thats not proof enough.

Completely unrelated but have you tested MGS4 with the PSJailbreak?

 

[MrDiesel]

I don't think they would do this considering they will need to run debug mode in order to test newer software and games. If they DO make an update that kills it, they would still need to update their PS3's to make sure it still runs under the same conditions ours does. 360's and Wii's use debug modes so you can fix their consoles have Nintendo or Microsoft haven't acted upon blocking those off because they need it.

But that's just my theory. But only a theory, I'm not claiming it as a fact.

It's not a clone of Sony's jig. It simply uses an exploit which can be easily fixed. What they did do is dump the auth code of Sony's jig. Read more about it here:
http://playstationlifestyle.net/2010/08/23...ak-development/

 

[MrDiesel]

Edited: twice the same post was posted at the same time

 

[Livin in a box]

Forgive my ignorance, but why do you need a special chip to inject code to make a buffer overflow?

 

[ThatDudeWithTheFood]

To inject code in certain places deep enough to get in we dont just have access to certain places in a ps3
Or atleast i think you need a device...

 

[Livin in a box]

To inject code in certain places deep enough to get in we dont just have access to certain places in a ps3
Or atleast i think you need a device...

But why can't a USB stick do that with the correct files? If the PS3 is looking for something when you press power+eject, then isn't that possible? Or am I just completely missing the point...

 

[ether2802]

Forgive my ignorance, but why do you need a special chip to inject code to make a buffer overflow?

You don't

 

[Livin in a box]

Forgive my ignorance, but why do you need a special chip to inject code to make a buffer overflow?

You don't

Oh. My mistake.

 

[Rydian]

To inject code in certain places deep enough to get in we dont just have access to certain places in a ps3 Or atleast i think you need a device...

But why can't a USB stick do that with the correct files?

Because files don't do anything. They exist and hold data. Now, if you're thinking of something like ChickHEN, first you need to get your PSP to read the file for it to work.

 

[Livin in a box]

To inject code in certain places deep enough to get in we dont just have access to certain places in a ps3 Or atleast i think you need a device...

But why can't a USB stick do that with the correct files?

Because files don't do anything. They exist and hold data. Now, if you're thinking of something like ChickHEN, first you need to get your PSP to read the file for it to work.

So what can this chip do then? How does it hold its data differently, and inject it differently, than how a regular USB stick would?

 

[gisel213]

WOW like seriously sony filed a lawsuit now i hope this becomes free sometime soon man it's gettin crazy takin ozmodchips to court wow....

 

[Rydian]

So what can this chip do then? How does it hold its data differently, and inject it differently, than how a regular USB stick would?

The chip can do shit, it doesn't just hold data that exists.

It's like a box versus a robot.

The box just holds shit.

The robot can DO shit.

EDIT: And to clarify, IT IS NOT A USB FLASH DRIVE.

 

[DigitalDeviant]

No way this will be "free" there is a cost involved in making these devices.

Now a significantly cheaper clone is a greater possibility.

 

[Jelster]

Standalone hardware/mods aside. Couldn't you also have this exploit coded for the PC and just connect the PC to the PS3 with a USB cable for the same effect? Not as convienient, granted, but it'd be good enough for many who have PCs and consoles in the same room.

 

[Jiggah]

To inject code in certain places deep enough to get in we dont just have access to certain places in a ps3 Or atleast i think you need a device...

But why can't a USB stick do that with the correct files?

Because files don't do anything. They exist and hold data. Now, if you're thinking of something like ChickHEN, first you need to get your PSP to read the file for it to work.

So what can this chip do then? How does it hold its data differently, and inject it differently, than how a regular USB stick would?

If the detailed report is right. The chip emulates a USB hub then inject multiple exploits to crack the system. These exploits have to be injected in a specific order.

 

[Livin in a box]

So what can this chip do then? How does it hold its data differently, and inject it differently, than how a regular USB stick would?

The chip can do shit, it doesn't just hold data that exists.

It's like a box versus a robot.

The box just holds shit.

The robot can DO shit.

EDIT: And to clarify, IT IS NOT A USB FLASH DRIVE.

I know it's not a USB drive, it's just I didn't really understand it properly. Now I do.

 

[Ryupower]

as for a "free" version in theory a PSP homebrew MAY be able to do it

looking at
http://twitter.com/ByakuyaEXT

@Mathieulh Sorry if this question appeared like a million times, can the PSP 1k,2k whatever a PSP with a CFW "emulate" the PSJailbreak?


http://twitter.com/Mathieulh (PSP hackers, should know this person)

QUOTE@ByakuyaEXT In theory yes, it however has not been done

 

[Rydian]

Yeah, as Jiggah said (and Ryupower quotes from Mathieulh), a PC and PSP are both programmable and neither are just flash drives, so they may be able to do this as well.