Procedural midi

[drake7707]

After playing with otomata (which I'm sure some of you have already tried out here: http://www.earslap.com/projectslab/otomata) I wanted to write my own implementation using the same ruleset, but with extra features and a way to export to midi.

So I created Procedural Midi:

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You can download it from http://proceduralmidi.codeplex.com/.

If anyone wants to port it to NDS, the source code is available and fully documented (it's not all that much code really).

Have fun!

 

[Rydian]

Man this seems pretty crazy. XD

 

[Berthenk]

The link is borked, please remove the ) at the end.

Watched the video a bit; it looks addicting. I downloaded it; it sure is!
Mind changing the right mouse to remove?

 

[Smartpal]

This is friggin' sweet.

 

[Ace]

I will seriously use this when I record more synthy stuff. But it seems MIDI exporting isn't working properly :/ I tried adding it to some MIDI editors, and they all glitch out on me. Playing the MID files also glitches up WMP.

Something to think about for the next few releases: Multiple Tracks, adding VST's/other effects to the tracks, a few built in scales that can be switched while playing (sort of like Wolfram's random MIDI generator), and diagonal movement (if possible). Also, since it's already using some sort of MIDI, a way to use SoundFont files instead of just the standard midi sounds and the samples (it could possibly make some of the best chiptune out there)

This may seem like a lot, but by god, it would open up a whole new world to music!

ACEDIT: http://www.earslap.com/projectslab/otomata...v4031213z2z2d2o

 

[ChaosZero816]

This looks interesting.

Might use this in the future.

 

[Ace]

I think this thread would benefit from more Otomata links: http://www.earslap.com/projectslab/otomata...z5c6072883b5f44

 

[drake7707]

Thanks for the feedback, I appreciate it

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I'll look into the issues and try to fix them. I've had some trouble making the midi export and I was glad it finally worked in winamp and media player classic, it somehow still refused to work in my old version of guitar pro (which I thought it was because it was an old version and I've had other issues with it too), but apparently getting it to work in there would probably be a good test case.

I'll take note of the feature requests too, if anyone else thinks of something let me know

 

[drake7707]

I created a new release that addresses the midi export (apparently some meta data is required by some applications) and some other things:

http://proceduralmidi.codeplex.com/releases/view/67517


I've looked into the soundfont support but as far as I can see there's no .NET library that allows me to play notes from an sf2 file (NAudio can read soundfont files but can't play them afaik), so if they ever get added I'll have to code it myself (and by the looks of it, it's pretty complex).

Let me know if midi works correctly now, I've tested the import on my gp4 and it worked fine after I added the end_of_track and set_tempo meta events.

 

[Ace]

I'm not completely sure, but perhaps this might be able to help you: http://mark-dot-net.blogspot.com/2008/06/i...io-toolkit.html Unless this is what you referred to in your previous post.

Also, your MIDI fix works on Guitar Pro 5, as well as GXSCC. One issue with it is that it leaves about a second of the MIDI file empty, although this can easily be fixed manually.

Another current issue is that opening text files and reloading is currently broken. I get an error: 'Could not open file, error: System.ArgumentOutOfRangeException', followed by something about value '0' not being valid for 'Value'. And something about 'Value' has to be between 'Minimum' and 'Maximum'

Other than that, nice work! You've built a lot on top of the already awesome program. I can definitely see myself using this sometime soon for recording, if it could be used as a VST MIDI controller of sorts (like they described on Overclocked ReMix forums)

ACEDIT: http://naudio.codeplex.com/ Would probably be better to go to than the link I gave above

But it seems you knew about this library already.

ACEDIT2: It would also probably be a good idea to ask the creator of the NAudio library on the codeplex website, if you haven't already, too

 

[drake7707]

I fixed the loading error, gah stupid me.

 

[Skarigon]

Hmm, so far this seems pretty damned cool.

Would it be possible to make a "generate MIDI for states x to y" option?

Also, it seems to me that the wavesample data in .nds file's .sdat files makes for really great instruments.

If you mind, could you also create some kind of musical scale preset database/save option? (Like the one WolframTones has) it is kind of a bother to manually input some scales.


Also: http://www.earslap.com/projectslab/otomata...i3o7d0j5j6x1n80 (Let it change, its a gradual change)

Otherwise, I have to say, great job, this is really cool, and I could see myself playing with this a lot.

 

[drake7707]

I've created a first version of a VST plugin, it's available on http://proceduralmidi.codeplex.com/

I've only tested it in VSTHost, so I don't know in what other hosts it will work. It seems some are more picky than others about certain things.

Hmm, so far this seems pretty damned cool.

Would it be possible to make a "generate MIDI for states x to y" option?

Also, it seems to me that the wavesample data in .nds file's .sdat files makes for really great instruments.

If you mind, could you also create some kind of musical scale preset database/save option? (Like the one WolframTones has) it is kind of a bother to manually input some scales.


Also: http://www.earslap.com/projectslab/otomata...i3o7d0j5j6x1n80 (Let it change, its a gradual change)

Otherwise, I have to say, great job, this is really cool, and I could see myself playing with this a lot.

I could provide a dropdown with predefined scales, if you could give/link me a list of scales with their names.

Generating a midi for x number of next states would also be possible. I don't keep track of previous states though, so it will always be for future states.

 

[drake7707]

I've uploaded a new version with the VST included in the main package (http://proceduralmidi.codeplex.com/):

changelog:

- Added preset of scales, which are read from the scales.txt file.
- Added abilitiy to export a midi for x steps, notes or seconds.
- Right click removes the cell, middle mouse click shows debug info instead.
- VST plugin is added & tested in VSTHost (but this is still very much beta, I know little to nothing of VST hosts so I require some feedback if it is actually working the way it is supposed to).
- States menu is split up into Load & Save, so saving can also be done via the menu now (with keyboard shortcuts not working as a VST plugin there was no way to save a state).
- Cleaned up code (and hopefully didn't break anything)
- Added a demo file and demo exported midi

 

[Ace]

Default=D3, A3, A#3, C4, D4, E4, F4, A5, C5
Adonai Malakh=D3, D#3, E3, F4, G4, A4, B5, C5
Aeolian Flat1=D3, F3, F#3, G#4, A#4, B5, C#5
Algerian=D3, E3, F3, G4, G#4, A4, A#5, C#5
Altered Pentatonic=D3, D#3, G4, A5, B5
Alternating Tetramirror=D3,D#4, F4, F#5
Arezzo Major Diatonic Hexachord=D3, E3, F#4, G4, A5, B5
Augmented Chord=D3, F#4, A#5
Balinese Pentachord=D3, D#3, F#4, G#4, A5
Bhairubahar Thaat=D3, D#3, F#3, G4, A5, B5, C#5
Bi Yu=D3, F4, A5, C5
Blues=D3, F3, G3, G#4, A4, C5
Blues Diminished=D3, D#3, F3, F#4, G#4, A4, B5, C5
Blues Dorian Hexatonic=D3, E3, F3, F#4, A5, B5

Courtesy of WolframTones.
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Instructions:

Copy all entries in code tags
Save as scales.txt
Put scales.txt in the same folder as ProceduralMIDI

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I might continue this if time allows.
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I tried the VST: It didn't work on Cubase 5.1. It opened, but I could figure out how to record...

 

[Skarigon]

Thanks for the option to change the scales!

Also, a recording of a word or a short phrase as the sample makes for surprisingly good results.

 

[drake7707]

For those who have an Android device v2.1 and up, there's now a free (ad supported) android app available called Melodaton based on the Procedural Midi code.

https://market.android.com/details?id=drake.melodaton

 

[Terminator02]

checking it out right now, and thanks for bumping this, i somehow missed it the first time around