#prideforeveryone

[MajinCubyan]

Well, I work in the gayest town in the great state of Michigan right up the road from a gay resort, grew up with very good family friends who are gay and some of my besties are gay as well.

No, it do not tolerate them, I accept them for who they are. To be completely honest, it doesn't matter if you're gay, straight, bi, trans or anything thing else to me. What people want to do wit someone they love(wanna bang) is their business, no one elses. Only thing I care about is whether or not you are an asshole.

 

[The Catboy]

The only thing I would like to see, is a day where we don't need these kind of "Pride" events. I know why we have them, but at the same time, I don't see them really helping.
Personally, I just want to live my life in peace without bothering anyone or someone bothering me. So what if I happen to be transgender, does that really matter to anyone else? I am just a girl, I live my everyday life as a girl. I don't need a "Pride" movement to be me, I just need to live my own life as I see fit.

 

[MajinCubyan]

The only thing I would like to see, is a day where we don't need these kind of "Pride" events. I know why we have them, but at the same time, I don't see them really helping.
Personally, I just want to live my life in peace without bothering anyone or someone bothering me. So what if I happen to be transgender, does that really matter to anyone else? I am just a girl, I live my everyday life as a girl. I don't need a "Pride" movement to be me, I just need to live my own life as I see fit.

That was wonderfully said.

 

[KingVamp]

You don't see any "straight pride parades" neither.
I agree on it.

Idk why. Maybe because straight people aren't an oppressed minority, but nothing stopping from organising one. Only one I read about failed, and the guy who organized it was obviously anti-gay.

We have other parades besides gay parades and events. Examples such as Martin Luther King Jr and Mardi Gras. Black History Month. "We don't have a White History month."

I guess they should stop since they should keep to themselves.

Don't get me started on transgender. I'm sorry, but it isn't normal in any sense of the word. You can do anything you want with your body. Do dangerous surgeries (I perfer you don't) to change yourself or don't, and still try to claim you are the other gender, but I can't 100% agree with them.

 

[The Catboy]

You don't see any "straight pride parades" neither.
I agree on it.

The thing, Straight pride really doesn't need to be a thing. When was the same time someone tried to ban Heterosexual marriage or someone was beaten to death for being straight or thrown out of their house for being straight? Never, that has never happened. Straight pride actually just doesn't have any point beyond being proud of being straight, which in this sense is literally an example of shoving one's own sexuality down people's throats.
Like said, there's a point to LGBT+ pride, it's pride in progress we've made. Hell, it's only been one year since Same-sex marriage was recognized in all 50 states.
I guess right now something like "Transgender Pride," might be seen as necessary since now we are the ones trying to fight for our rights to be just seen as normal everyday people, with nothing special about us.

 

[LittleFlame]

We don't need parades
We don't need your sexuality rubbed in our faces
We especially don't need your non-biological gender rubber in
What we do need is for you to grow up and realize
about 80% of us don't give a single fuck about where you stick your genitals and the minority that do, who gives a fuck about them as there's always gonna be opposition towards anything ever

 

[astrangeone]

The thing, Straight pride really doesn't need to be a thing. When was the same time someone tried to ban Heterosexual marriage or someone was beaten to death for being straight or thrown out of their house for being straight? Never, that has never happened. Straight pride actually just doesn't have any point beyond being proud of being straight, which in this sense is literally an example of shoving one's own sexuality down people's throats.
Like said, there's a point to LGBT+ pride, it's pride in progress we've made. Hell, it's only been one year since Same-sex marriage was recognized in all 50 states.
I guess right now something like "Transgender Pride," might be seen as necessary since now we are the ones trying to fight for our rights to be just seen as normal everyday people, with nothing special about us.

This, so much. The history of LGBT people isn't pretty. Even in my hometown, there were needless arrests and stuff on PRIVATE property. (Our police chief just made a token gesture of apology towards the people that got arrested/raided.) I mean, it's not Stonewall, but it was on a smaller scale...

Our risk of suicide is 60% higher than any straight person. Why? Because we have the chance of getting thrown out of our homes, getting beaten to death OR even getting arrested on trumped up charges OR getting fired (I worked a temporary job as a secretary in a nursing home, and I had to keep it quiet constantly lying about a "boyfriend".).

Transgender pride needs to be a thing, considering how screwed up the USA is right now. (People fighting over people's rights to use the bathroom of their choice...)

I personally don't like Pride because it's always catering to a "gay male" perspective and because it's turned into "Look at the gays, ma!" public event....

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We don't need parades
We don't need your sexuality rubbed in our faces
We especially don't need your non-biological gender rubber in
What we do need is for you to grow up and realize
about 80% of us don't give a single fuck about where you stick your genitals and the minority that do, who gives a fuck about them as there's always gonna be opposition towards anything ever

I don't care about opposition, but when most people who oppose your "lifestyle" (not my favourite word) can and will turn violent as hell, that's scary.

In my fiancee's hometown, I have to be extremely careful about showing affection to her, otherwise both of us might end up dead OR worse.

A parade is a way of fighting back against this mentality. "You've suppressed me for so long, so HERE, look at all of us loving our sweethearts.."

 

[deinonychus71]

We don't need parades
We don't need your sexuality rubbed in our faces
We especially don't need your non-biological gender rubber in
What we do need is for you to grow up and realize
about 80% of us don't give a single fuck about where you stick your genitals and the minority that do, who gives a fuck about them as there's always gonna be opposition towards anything ever

I am part of this community and yet I (almost) fully agree with this. Some people absolutely want to call themselves different and can be just really annoying about it. Truly, Ive had more problems about my weight (even inside the lgbt l community) than just because I was gay. People should really grow up, there's always gonna be hate crimes, against religions, races, sexuality, but no the lgbt community is no longer harassed (more than any other). There are asshole inside and outside of the community, just like any community.

 

[astrangeone]

I am part of this community and yet I (almost) fully agree with this. Some people absolutely want to call themselves different and can be just really annoying about it. Truly, Ive had more problems about my weight (even inside the lgbt l community) than just because I was gay. People should really grow up, there's always gonna be hate crimes, against religions, races, sexuality, but no the lgbt community is no longer harassed (more than any other). There are asshole inside and outside of the community, just like any community.

I think the lgbt community is just shallow as fuck sometimes. I was just on a dating site for dykes and I've see so many "no Asians, no femmes, no studs, no Blacks". It's like...what the living hell? What if your dream date was a "person of colour"? Fucking hell, you just want to mash genitals together...

 

[ComeTurismO]

Although I support the LGBT community; I disagree with the extensive "pride" events and parades in my city. We've embraced the community for long; sure--before they were discriminated, but it's now being treated to a point where these people are being seen as special people. They stand out more. I believe that now we are at that point where they should be seen normal as straight people. They didn't choose their sexual orientation, they were born with it, and there's nothing wrong with that. It's normal and natural for people.

 

[KingVamp]

Gay people can't even get into media, especially mainstream cartoons, without someone making a stink about. Either from the "stop shoveling your sexuality down my throat", "gay people are wrong" crowd or both at the same time.

 

[Lucifer666]

LGBT pride parades exist to celebrate the a group of people whose existence is often criminalised. We most certainly do not have it the same as cisgender + heterosexual people, and the fact that people are arguing this in light of the recent shooting in Orlando is mind-blowing.

I don't have the privilege of being open about who I am as someone who lives in a country where the death sentence is a legal response to my 'coming out'. I can be deported for it at best, and killed at worst.. Call it a regional issue all you want, but if it is a problem in one part of the travel-easy world it's a problem in all of it, albeit to varying extents.

The reason "straight pride" doesn't exist is because heterosexuals do not need a reminder that their sexuality is not inherently unethical.

@astrangeone No one is saying that LGBT individuals are perfectly up-to-speed with their politics and that they can't be racist. There is an infinitely complicated power structure that cannot be disassembled by looking solely at gay/straight/black/white as individual categories. Intersectionality exists. And yeah, there is definitely a racism problem within the mainstream LGBT+ community.

these people are being seen as special people. They stand out more.

I'm packing my bags, getting ready to move to this place where LGBT people are pampered, as you say. [/sarcasm]

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I think it needs to be reinforced that certain events not being about you aren't automatically worthy of contempt or bitterness. You'll get used to it, as we have had to.

 

[ComeTurismO]

You don't just change the word of God to what's currently popular. Your past two posts have shown quite a bit of ignorance on the subject of religion. You seem to lack even a basic understanding. Now that's fine. I know absolutely nothing about many country's politics. However, I don't go around calling them dumb. There is a certain event going on in the UK right now (don't want to derail the topic), and when people ask me about my opinion, I say I don't know enough about it to make an informed opinion.

I want you to re-evaluate that statement. You said no offense, then called my statement dumb. I wasn't offended because I am fine with differing opinions, but you're still showing quite a bit of hypocrisy there. My bff and I are perfectly fine with disagreeing on certain things. She thinks my religion is stupid. I think many parts of her lifestyle are wrong. We aren't so immature that we can't deal with differences though.


The people in the gay pride parades would seem to disagree with that statement. Besides, it's not like I'm asking anyone about they're sexual orientation.

I'm a Muslim myself and am aware that our religions condemn homosexuality. But back then the majority of the population strictly followed it. But now as generations passed and new ones came; LGB(T) communities approached. Many were and are today religious themselves but they can't just force themselves to be sexually attracted to the opposite gender. It's just in the same way I can't force myself to be attracted to the same gender. They have it the same way. They just have a different sexual orientation than us. If you look in several countries, both Muslim and Christian communities have a lot of people that are homosexual but are still devoted to their religion. Even my parents' country--you go there and you'll see a lot of gay people and go in the mosques to pray to their God.

God hasn't told us to hate people no matter who they are. But yes, the books say God told us homosexuality is condemned. God told us to love people and be nice to each other. Therefore the laws on homosexuality doesn't mix. You can still be a good representative of your religion if you don't follow laws written 1000s of years ago that don't match with today as new generations approached meaning new people approached.

I agree with @DinohScene.

 

[Chary]

Gay people can't even get into media, especially mainstream cartoons, without someone making a stink about. Either from the "stop shoveling your sexuality down my throat", " gay people is wrong" crowd or both at the same time.

Modern Family says hi

 

[Sonic Angel Knight]

How does debate post like this keep being started.
Can we all get along or if not don't associate with the people we don't like?

 

[ComeTurismO]

LGBT pride parades exist to celebrate the a group of people whose existence is often criminalised. We most certainly do not have it the same as cisgender + heterosexual people, and the fact that people are arguing this in light of the recent shooting in Orlando is mind-blowing.

I don't have the privilege of being open about who I am as someone who lives in a country where the death sentence is a legal response to my 'coming out'. I can be deported for it at best, and killed at worst.. Call it a regional issue all you want, but if it is a problem in one part of the travel-easy world it's a problem in all of it, albeit to varying extents.
The reason "straight pride" doesn't exist is because heterosexuals do not need a reminder that their sexuality is not inherently unethical.

@astrangeone No one is saying that LGBT individuals are perfectly up-to-speed with their politics and that they can't be racist. There is an infinitely complicated power structure that cannot be disassembled by looking solely at gay/straight/black/white as individual categories. Intersectionality exists. And yeah, there is definitely a racism problem within the mainstream LGBT+ community.

I'm packing my bags, getting ready to move to this place where LGBT people are pampered, as you say. [/sarcasm]

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I think it needs to be reinforced that certain events not being about you aren't automatically worthy of contempt or bitterness. You'll get used to it, as we have had to.

I do agree these people are being and have been hated on but now that so many facilities and things have opened in cities to support the LGBT community parades are unnecessary. This applies to certain cities though because the crime rate committed to the LGBT community is EXXXXXXXXXTREEEEEEEEEMLY low now. There shouldn't be parades in cities where it's unnecessary, but should be in cities where hate-crime rates are high for the LGBT community

 

[JoostinOnline]

My knowledge isn't that great on topic of the bible but i know the scripts have been altered numerous times as apparantley in the older times you were literally allowed to rape your sister...

The Bible has never been rewritten, nor does it say you can rape your sister. There are many translations of it though. Religion is a powerful and dangerous thing though. Many parts of the Bible have very different meanings depending on if you understand the context. I've studied for years, and there are plenty of parts I don't understand. We're talking about thousands of years of history. Atrocities from the Crusades to US slavery have been justified by out of context verses. When you don't bother to (or don't want to) learn the context, you can have a grave misinterpretation.

Don't group everyone together on that front i do agree that lately especially on temp people have felt the need to overshare about their sexual orientation (at the young age of 11 what the hell?) but just because there's some lame people on their side you also have some terrible people over on the religious side for example

I was only talking about the people in the parade. If you're on a giant float celebrating your sexuality, I think it's a safe bet that you don't consider it a private matter.

but i have to ask you something pretty risky
Are you really okay with trusting a book that's been written ages ago and believing that nobody back then lied?

Quite possible. There are several books of the Bible that aren't considered legitimate because historians have compared them to other works and record, deeming them not trustworthy. For starters, google "gnostic gospels". That's just the tip.

I'm a Muslim myself and am aware that our religions condemn homosexuality. But back then the majority of the population strictly followed it. But now as generations passed and new ones came; LGB(T) communities approached. Many were and are today religious themselves but they can't just force themselves to be sexually attracted to the opposite gender. It's just in the same way I can't force myself to be attracted to the same gender. They have it the same way. They just have a different sexual orientation than us. If you look in several countries, both Muslim and Christian communities have a lot of people that are homosexual but are still devoted to their religion. Even my parents' country--you go there and you'll see a lot of gay people and go in the mosques to pray to their God.

God hasn't told us to hate people no matter who they are. But yes, the books say God told us homosexuality is condemned. God told us to love people and be nice to each other. Therefore the laws on homosexuality doesn't mix. You can still be a good representative of your religion if you don't follow laws written 1000s of years ago that don't match with today as new generations approached meaning new people approached.

I agree with @DinohScene.

I only know the basics of Islamic religion (I try not to take news stations on their word ), but as I stated before, Christianity never actually condemns homosexuals. Just homosexual sex. Nobody chooses how they're tempted. I also recognize it's not something I've ever faced, so I can't say how I'd react in that situation. I certainly know I'm not perfect. I'm a shameful sinner. I can't speak for Islam, but Jesus stated that every man inherently evil.

 

[BurningDesire]

Ahahah that expression made me laugh really hard. Thank you.



Boy, if only.

Most of the LGBT whatever stuff kinda gets on my nerves, but because I respect people, I keep to myself. And in all honestly, it usually doesn't even cross my radar until things like parades and other things happen. That's mostly when i start getting annoyed.

Do I get on your nerves senpai?

 

[BORTZ]

Do I get on your nerves senpai?

No lol. I dont have any problem with anyone who claims to be LGBT or whatever you are all calling it now. Its more of a personal thing I guess. Take for example Dinoh here. He and I have been great friends for who knows how long, and I dont think anything different of him. I accept him for who he is, even if I dont necessarily agree with how he lives. Whatever, I still love him just the same.

 

[BurningDesire]

No lol. I dont have any problem with anyone who claims to be LGBT or whatever you are all calling it now. Its more of a personal thing I guess. Take for example Dinoh here. He and I have been great friends for who knows how long, and I dont think anything different of him. I accept him for who he is, even if I dont necessarily agree with how he lives. Whatever, I still love him just the same.

Apparently people are now calling it LGBT+ because of the bold sentence I am now shipping you two.