ROM Hack Pokemon HG/SS fix discussion

[maco123456]

we have around 2 hours and 30 mins left in EST

 

[TheCypher]

@mikeychunn
Wouldnt that also affect the ingame events?Making it impossible for some things to trigger and start happening?

 

[PikaPerson01]

On an "unrelated to the patch, but related to keeping this topic less of a failpile" note:

Is it possible for someone to edit the first post with just a few lines of: "The game already works for such and such card" so people won't feel inclined to hop in here just to say whether or not there card is working?

 

[Ryukouki]

Too bad we all aren't satisfied with the japanese version with english patches...

 

[mike10003]

I've been reading this thread this page 50, and a lot of good and bad ideas have come up.

FIRST PRIORITY: Identify what it is that is making specific Flashcards make the game believe it is being run on a legit cart.

I cannot stress how that is probably the single biggest thing people should be looking at.

SECOND PRIORITY: Figure out at what point in boot-up the game goes "Hey, are you legit?" and what memory file is used to store the answer "Yes" or "No".

This probably cannot be done through hex-matching. Hex memory is USUALLY randomized, which means everytime you boot the game, identical things could have different addresses; at least, a lot of games work like this right now, as a way to prevent hacking because a single guy spread the address you have to change. However, if this does not apply to DS games, then more power to whoever finds this address.

THIRD PRIORITY: Find the event counter.

This should be as easy as running a memory check of all values. Scan again for UNCHANGED values, five or six times, to eliminate as much noise as possible. Then go into a house. Then scan for values that have gone up by 1 since the last scan. Leave the house. Scan for values that have gone up by 1 again. Repeat this a few times until you narrow it down to only a few values, and begin testing.

Anyway, that's all I've got. I'm not a hacker, just a noobling programmer. Those're my thoughts.

Reposting since it was lost on the last post of the page

 

[SirBraneDamuj]

I think we should try modifying the OP so people are more well-informed when they post in the thread.

 

[ccgriffith]

The deadline is apparently 12:01 AM EST. Or can we make it Pacific time for the sake of my asshole?

I'll be kind enough to agree to those terms.

I just better have that video in my box when I wake up in the morning.

 

[FantajiFan]

Ugh, 1 & 2 applies to you too.

Rules 1 & 2 don't apply to 4chan globaly, read the thread for moar info.

I know what's specifically referenced, but it implicitly refers to more than one board.

 

[gumgumthegum]

On an "unrelated to the patch, but related to keeping this topic less of a failpile" note:

Is it possible for someone to edit the first post with just a few lines of: "The game already works for such and such card" so people won't feel inclined to hop in here just to say whether or not there card is working?

im just wating for a ttds patch but ya they should do that

 

[Ryukouki]

Good luck with TTDS. They're kinda hard to find nowadays...

 

[mikeychunn]

Too bad we all aren't satisfied with the japanese version with english patches...

*Runs to download Jap version and Yaymii patch*

 

[hannahbailey2008]

I've been reading this thread this page 50, and a lot of good and bad ideas have come up.

FIRST PRIORITY: Identify what it is that is making specific Flashcards make the game believe it is being run on a legit cart.

I cannot stress how that is probably the single biggest thing people should be looking at.

SECOND PRIORITY: Figure out at what point in boot-up the game goes "Hey, are you legit?" and what memory file is used to store the answer "Yes" or "No".

This probably cannot be done through hex-matching. Hex memory is USUALLY randomized, which means everytime you boot the game, identical things could have different addresses; at least, a lot of games work like this right now, as a way to prevent hacking because a single guy spread the address you have to change. However, if this does not apply to DS games, then more power to whoever finds this address.

THIRD PRIORITY: Find the event counter.

This should be as easy as running a memory check of all values. Scan again for UNCHANGED values, five or six times, to eliminate as much noise as possible. Then go into a house. Then scan for values that have gone up by 1 since the last scan. Leave the house. Scan for values that have gone up by 1 again. Repeat this a few times until you narrow it down to only a few values, and begin testing.

Anyway, that's all I've got. I'm not a hacker, just a noobling programmer. Those're my thoughts.

Very good post, thanks for sharing

Anyone know what's so special about Acekards that could make them appear like the real thing to the game? Do they emulate something that the others can't?

 

[SaitoKojima]

On an "unrelated to the patch, but related to keeping this topic less of a failpile" note:

Is it possible for someone to edit the first post with just a few lines of: "The game already works for such and such card" so people won't feel inclined to hop in here just to say whether or not there card is working?

im just wating for a ttds patch but ya they should do that

I agree with you, I'm mostly only caring for the NDSTT-working patch, as unintentionally selfish as that sounds.

 

[hunt3rshadow]

A little off topic maybe , but i have a question about the pokewalker unit , and thought of something , could this random freezeup , have something/or anything to do with the ap checking for the pokewalker? Has any one been bold enough to dissasemble a cartridge and see if the cartridge has any additional part in it , that might be talking to the pokewalker? Also does any one know if a pokewalker will interface with a "pirated"copy?

Has anyone thought of this yet?

 

[nvidia5500]

Just a confirmation: I've tested this game on Edge 1.8(it works) but it seldom crashes for IEdge 1.8. I don't know the reason why.

 

[maco123456]

damn, if nintendo AP keeps getting better like this we might actually lose

 

[mikeychunn]

On an "unrelated to the patch, but related to keeping this topic less of a failpile" note:

Is it possible for someone to edit the first post with just a few lines of: "The game already works for such and such card" so people won't feel inclined to hop in here just to say whether or not there card is working?

im just wating for a ttds patch but ya they should do that

I agree with you, I'm mostly only caring for the NDSTT-working patch, as unintentionally selfish as that sounds.

It's not selfish...everybody is waiting for their respective cards to work...
If only R4 came faster :*(

 

[runner12326]

damn, if nintendo AP keeps getting better like this we might actually lose

Lose what? It's not like we're fighting a war.

 

[maco123456]

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[FantajiFan]

A little off topic maybe , but i have a question about the pokewalker unit , and thought of something , could this random freezeup , have something/or anything to do with the ap checking for the pokewalker? Has any one been bold enough to dissasemble a cartridge and see if the cartridge has any additional part in it , that might be talking to the pokewalker? Also does any one know if a pokewalker will interface with a "pirated"copy?

Has anyone thought of this yet?

Since it works on some flash carts and not others, we've assumed it isn't something related to the IR communication with the pokewalker since no flashcart has IR capability (or anything that'd be mistaken for it).