I think some people want to be able to have it in case he doesn't decide to release it, or in case he releases the exploit but the Dashlaunch build doesn't surface.Just wait until it comes out. How patient are you? It's just a week away.
I think some people want to be able to have it in case he doesn't decide to release it, or in case he releases the exploit but the Dashlaunch build doesn't surface.Just wait until it comes out. How patient are you? It's just a week away.
Is he even aware of the leak drama? I don't think Ryan has a Discord account in the first place. Or if he does, he only uses it for private communication (at least as private as you can be when it comes with a Western social media service owned by billionares) instead of interacting with Discord server communities.I think some people want to be able to have it in case he doesn't decide to release it, or in case he releases the exploit but the Dashlaunch build doesn't surface.

He's likely aware but hasn't spoken about it yet. Seems that Twitter is his form of communication afaik and he's nowhere on Discord (unless within a private circle).Is he even aware of the leak drama? I don't think Ryan has a Discord account in the first place. Or if he does, he only uses it for private communication (at least as private as you can be when it comes with a Western social media service owned by billionares) instead of interacting with Discord server communities.

What does this have to do with us?Personally, as someone who does like to actively engage with the some of the Xbox 360-related Discord communities, I find the discourse about no DashLaunch support to be becoming extremely nonsensical with users like this.
This guy literally went in multiple other servers just to vent his hatred for Ryan. For what its worth, after he literally got banned & clowned on by multiple other users, he did apologize about his behavior afterward.

Also Microsoft is way more aggressive when it comes to banning than anyone else really. They don't differentiate from Homebrew, cheating, or piracy. So Grim dismissing Stealth servers is just plain stupid and also in extremely bad faith. I'm glad someone chose to leak modified builds of his software with DashLaunch support. I only hope those builds don't become lost due to people being unwilling to share them outside of discordI somehow missed this despite following Grim's stuff. Wicked! It's also great how a 360 with a HDD with no mods applied (or corrupted) but with NAND mods applied should still boot, otherwise it would feel pretty rough. And it's good to see how HDD mods don't interfere with unmodded system compatibility.
About dismissing stealth servers though, WTF?! It feels like Xbox Live on 360 will soon be no longer, why waste the opportunity to use it while it's alive? (I get that Xbox seems eager to keep the 360 alive with emulation, but I wouldn't be surprised if Live doesn't make it...) And the cheating argument is pretty lame, as while having a modded system enables cheating, not everyone cheats; modding/jailbreaking is supposed to liberate the system to the furthest extent possible, not enforce its own restrictions directly or otherwise.
Even though hard modding is less straightforward in comparison (the goddamn clips!), RGH 3.0 made the process so much easier a few years back, I think it's still more than justified to use it. Microscope is preferred, though.
.Personally, as someone who does like to actively engage with the some of the Xbox 360-related Discord communities, I find the discourse about no DashLaunch support to be becoming extremely nonsensical with users like this.
This guy literally went in multiple other servers just to vent his hatred for Ryan. For what its worth, after he literally got banned & clowned on by multiple other users, he did apologize about his behavior afterward. View attachment 593639
I've always felt that opinionated developers gatekeeping based on their own wrong ideas about ethics and morality was shitty and terrible. In the past though we've just had to accept it, sometimes even hold our tongues. Like it or not Homebrew was been driven by people with sacred knowledge (that they very often won't freely share) and skills and if they say no or just quit that's the end of that. Anyone else are just people with ideas and motivation with no ability to do anything.It's very disrespectful that this guy would start a huge drama fest over a complete nothingburger. Ryan has worked hard on making this exploit happen, and for somebody to leak it out in the wild, this shows zero respect towards the developer.
Also Microsoft is way more aggressive when it comes to banning than anyone else really. They don't differentiate from Homebrew, cheating, or piracy. So Grim dismissing Stealth servers is just plain stupid and also in extremely bad faith. I'm glad someone chose to leak modified builds of his software with DashLaunch support. I only hope those builds don't become lost due to people being unwilling to share them outside of discord.
I've always felt that opinionated developers gatekeeping based on their own wrong ideas about ethics and morality was shitty and terrible. In the past though we've just had to accept it, sometimes even hold our tongues. Like it or not Homebrew was been driven by people with sacred knowledge (that they very often won't freely share) and skills and if they say no or just quit that's the end of that. Anyone else are just people with ideas and motivation with no ability to do anything.
I'm so glad that has changed with AI. That's part of what made me warm up to AI more. The fact that anyone can create anything. Even if elite developers hate it or try to stop it. I don't have respect for said elitist devs because they often have shitty morals which don't align with the good of the community.
BTW, we now have confirmation that Ryan knows about the leak shananigans:He's likely aware but hasn't spoken about it yet. Seems that Twitter is his form of communication afaik and he's nowhere on Discord (unless within a private circle).

In all honesty, I didn't find your take (along with some of the others in this thread) to be much different than most of the other people I've encountered (like in the Discord example I sent) who seem to have some sort of extreme vandetta against Grimdoomer. So that's why I shared that Discord exchange.What does this have to do with us?

So because I think pretentious moral grandstanding is stupid, I have an "extreme vendetta"?In all honesty, I didn't find your take (along with some of the others in this thread) to be much different than most of the other people I've encountered (like in the Discord example I sent) who seem to have some sort of extreme vandetta against Grimdoomer. So that's why I shared that Discord exchange.
The post is complaining about the anti-"cheating" stance I mentioned above, all he did was say he is glad there is a version with DashLaunch plugin support now because of this. You don't need to talk down to him like a child for wanting DashLaunch compatibility. Most of these board members are not software engineers.You realize that he literally explained why DashLaunch isn't compatible with his softmod in the video right? I mean, all this memory address conflict shenigans can literally be observed just by trying to have a stealth server and Aurora's Nova plugin active at the same time. Every single Xbox 360 developer I've spoken to agrees that not supporting DashLaunch or Aurora's Nova is a reasonable decision because of how many memory address conflicts could exist.
We have a right to express an opinion in the appropriate venues to do so. It is not "entitled", nobody is demanding anything from him, we are being critical. We do not like PeerPressure and we will not use it, simple, Grim is not entitled to us as users. You're the one getting argumentative for literally no fucking reason here, andEveryone getting their undies in a wad (so to speak) over a 15-20 second segment in a YouTube video about a developer's opinion on how his software should operate, software he (a single individual) worked hard on for the past year and a half to deliver a flawless end user experience, AND is releasing to the public for free, is extremely silly and entitled. I've also literally never seen anyone parroting this opinion who's also familar with Xbox 360 software development in the first place. Or heck, ANY previous software development experience. You're not exactly helping his case on stealth server communities when you also act salty about it not supporting DashLaunch. I wouldn't even be suprised if he just sent a softmod update to these people that just bricks their console CPU's fuseline 0 at this point; I'd probably do the same.
NGL, I actually strongly agree with you here. This is part why I'm one of the major ConsoleMods contributors; having valuable information/discourse about technical stuff being locked away in what are effectively gated communites that are impossible to index on the World Wide Web™ is simply not good for information preservation. Stuff on Discord can often come and go for various resons. Old school IRC chat rooms had/still have the same problem.Gah. Using Discord to distribute software is cancer. Nope.
So because I think pretentious moral grandstanding is stupid, I have an "extreme vendetta"?
This is a thread where we talk about PeerPressure. I am here to talk about PeerPressure, and I justified my opinion. I didn't make it personal.
Nice strawman.
I'll admit that including you and the others as an example of people who genuinely despite Grimdoomer just for his stealth server opinions was uncalled for, and I genuinely apologize for doing so. You don't want to become the very thing you seek to destroy afterall.We have a right to express an opinion in the appropriate venues to do so. It is not "entitled", nobody is demanding anything from him, we are being critical. We do not like PeerPressure and we will not use it, simple, Grim is not entitled to us as users. You're the one getting argumentative for literally no fucking reason here, andsaying you'd be okay with bricking console out of spite over this difference of opinion speaks volumes about your character.
The post is complaining about the anti-"cheating" stance I mentioned above, all he did was say he is glad there is a version with DashLaunch plugin support now because of this. You don't need to talk down to him like a child for wanting DashLaunch compatibility. Most of these board members are not software engineers.
I haven't tried the leaked build so I can't speak on that aspect but I think that pivoting towards the memory address reasoning when we were all talking about his stance that Stealth server users are all cheaters trying to steal a paid service. So what you're doing is deflecting with a Red herring. Nice. The pinnacle of all good faith discussion.You realize that he literally explained why DashLaunch isn't compatible with his softmod in the video right? I mean, all this memory address conflict shenigans can literally be observed just by trying to have a stealth server and Aurora's Nova plugin active at the same time. Every single Xbox 360 developer I've spoken to agrees that not supporting DashLaunch or Aurora's Nova is a reasonable decision because of how many memory address conflicts could exist.
Would you rather have your end user experience be an RNG dice roll as to if it crashes or not just to have DashLaunch enabled? When basically every other base DashLaunch feature (such as ping patch, region spoof, liveblock, etc.) is already integrated in his kernel patcher? It's not hard for stealth developers to make alternative methods of booting their stealth service anyway; the ideas of doing so have already been tossed around for the past few months. Even FreeMyXe recently got its own plugin support that isn't reliant on DashLaunch, which proves that all this DashLaunch drama is utterly useless.
I mean we don't need to prove ourselves to him. It's clear he's made up his mind. People are right to be upset when he slandered a huge chunk of the community on his public platform.You're not exactly helping his case on stealth server communities when you also act salty about it not supporting DashLaunch.
I hope he does. He'll hose whatever respect he still has with the others who are cheering him on. That's graduating from respected Homebrew dev to malware author. It's likely people wouldn't trust him again after that. I know I won't trust you, I'd have to be stupid to trust you after admitting something like that publicly...I wouldn't even be suprised if he just sent a softmod update to these people that just bricks their console CPU's fuseline 0 at this point; I'd probably do the same.
Them. I go by they/them. It's okay. I don't expect people to understand. I hold nothing against you for that. I don't exactly say it publicly anywhere. GBAtemp doesn't have pronoun badges. It does sting though.The post is complaining about the anti-"cheating" stance I mentioned above, all he did was say he is glad there is a version with DashLaunch plugin support now because of this. You don't need to talk down to him like a child for wanting DashLaunch compatibility. Most of these board members are not software engineers.
I find it telling that they are claiming people are being entitled for being upset and wanting someone else to fork it or remake it with AI. That's extremely entitled. You don't get to decide what the Homebrew scene does with a concept, and you certainly can't make people use specific software from a specific dev. I've found a lot of entitled Homebrew devs in the scene spit and cry because people work on stuff they dislike.We have a right to express an opinion in the appropriate venues to do so. It is not "entitled", nobody is demanding anything from him, we are being critical. We do not like PeerPressure and we will not use it, simple, Grim is not entitled to us as users. You're the one getting argumentative for literally no fucking reason here, andsaying you'd be okay with bricking console out of spite over this difference of opinion speaks volumes about your character.

he's sortta not wrong though it's like companies calling ALL softmod users Pirates (even if the majority are some are not)Personally, as someone who does like to actively engage with the some of the Xbox 360-related Discord communities, I find the discourse about no DashLaunch support to be becoming extremely nonsensical with users like this.
This guy literally went in multiple other servers just to vent his hatred for Ryan. For what its worth, after he literally got banned & clowned on by multiple other users, he did apologize about his behavior afterward. View attachment 593639


