OUYA to Refresh Hardware Every Year

[Bladexdsl]

I can do that with my pc

 

[ferofax]

As long as they're upgrades and not replacements I'll be fine.

Well, yes, they're upgrades. Going from OUYA to OUYA2 will be like going from PS1 to PS2. Upgrades.

So they want you to buy hardware on a yearly basis. They made a conscious decision to render your hardware obsolete after just one year. That's wrong. That's just so wrong.

 

[2ndApex]

Well, yes, they're upgrades. Going from OUYA to OUYA2 will be like going from PS1 to PS2. Upgrades.

So they want you to buy hardware on a yearly basis. They made a conscious decision to render your hardware obsolete after just one year. That's wrong. That's just so wrong.

That's not an upgrade, that's a new console.

I was thinking upgrading like upgrading a computer, because then yearly upgrades would not only be acceptable but better than staying with the same hardware for an entire gen.

 

[Santee]

Well this things looking better and better, it's going to need the yearly hardware update to keep up with the android phones, and seeing as it's going to be backward compatible then this is a fine idea, the only alternative would replaceable parts but that would cost about the same. Don't really understand all the hate, I wouldn't but one as I have no need for it but it doesn't look bad.

 

[Celice]

That's not an upgrade, that's a new console.

I was thinking upgrading like upgrading a computer, because then yearly upgrades would not only be acceptable but better than staying with the same hardware for an entire gen.

This is what I thought the OUYA was doing: they were offering, if you wanted to pony up the case, new"er" hardware. That doesn't mean the previous version wouldn't be able to keep up with the games. It means there's an option for people who would like to have the very best they can as soon as it's available, and otherwise, they can keep the older hardware knowing that there's a chance it may have a performance hit on newer games.

 

[1NOOB]

it'd be nice if the hardware of the ouya could be switch like a catridge ... is it possible to do ?

 

[Taleweaver]

Hmm...at first, I was skeptic like most of you guys. And I still am. But there's another side of this story.

A hundred bucks isn't that much. If you buy the ouya 1, 2 and 3, you'll still have spent less money than on a next generation console.


That said...the ouya sequels will have a pretty hard time selling. Unlike major consoles where every major developer at least poops out a port of a grade A game, the ouya doesn't have this backing. And I think most indie developers will be more than content to just keep developing for the first ouya. And since the thing is completely mod-allowed, you can't really lure customers with a better interface either.

So the only reason this can pick up is if the customers step in the same pattern as apple users (oooh! a new version!!! I MUST HAVE IT!!!!!). But I seriously doubt it will happen. Perhaps it would have had a chance if it was the only gaming console on the market...but it isn't. Those who want the best of the best already go for a different console.
In marketing terms: they're hoping that the poor gamer segment is going to act like the rich apple owner segment.

 

[shakirmoledina]

why is this bad? if sony and all companies change their consoles due to the changes of hardware and software technologies, why shouldn't OUYA?
and even if they want to update just for the sake of it, its not like your old consoles won't work. They still will play them but the newer games, that are coincidentally not OUYA's fault for being more power-hungry, will need a more powerful machine.

there is no where in that para which said 'We don't want to support customer but rather want money every year.'

 

[Qtis]

it'd be nice if the hardware of the ouya could be switch like a catridge ... is it possible to do ?

Steambox is maybe something you're thinking of? Yes it's possible if the console is made modular in the first place (like a PC if you will). If everything is soldered into place like modern laptops and phones, you're out of luck.

 

[Luckkill4u]

why is this bad? if sony and all companies change their consoles due to the changes of hardware and software technologies, why shouldn't OUYA?
and even if they want to update just for the sake of it, its not like your old consoles won't work. They still will play them but the newer games, that are coincidentally not OUYA's fault for being more power-hungry, will need a more powerful machine.

there is no where in that para which said 'We don't want to support customer but rather want money every year.'

An xbox 360 was $299 on launch day, and PS3 was $499. Both consoles expected to last 7-9 years. $700-900 for the same type of thing for Ouya in a span of 7-9 years? I'll go with the REAL console thank you!

 

[Celice]

They weren't expected to survive that long. They were forced to, mostly as an economic decision, but similarly out of a greed for easy money. Consumers kept buying--the console makes just rode out the wave of profits.

Some analysts believe this drought of new systems brought about a well of stagnate game development. Where a new console every four or five years meant developers trying new franchises and OP to launch work with new consoles, this last generation, series were milked for as much money as possible, because devs needed that money to survive, and publishers wanted that money for profits.

 

[Another World]

it's funny to me how easy it is for some to bash the ouya without having used it. all the talk is of hardware, it seems no one wants to point out the current wave of development the ouya is receiving.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ouya_software
http://www.joystiq.com/2013/01/29/ouyas-create-game-jam-yields-more-than-150-games-in-10-days/
http://ouyaforum.com/showthread.php?18-List-of-Games-Coming-to-the-OUYA

hands down this is going to be an affordable way to game. it will offer android exclusives, emulation, hdmi, wireless controllers, upgradable software and hardware, portability, and all for $99.

this system will breath new life into the console market, something which has been stagnated for years. nintendo, sony, or microsoft, gee, what fun it is.

-another world

 

[KingVamp]

I can do the exact same thing with my Asus Transformer Pad. All I needed was a Micro USB to HDMI cable (a few dollars), and a handheld bluetooth keyboard/touchpad for the convenience of not having to physically hold the tablet while setting things up (about $20).

That said, I suppose it is nice to have a version of Android that's more console-dedicated, in a way.

I can do that with my pc

Ouya will have its own games, game support, be easier to move around and set up, do all that was mentioned, and save space under a $100 device (as you pointed out) aim at mostly gaming. It as well as indie catered.

This is what I thought the OUYA was doing: they were offering, if you wanted to pony up the case, new"er" hardware. That doesn't mean the previous version wouldn't be able to keep up with the games. It means there's an option for people who would like to have the very best they can as soon as it's available, and otherwise, they can keep the older hardware knowing that there's a chance it may have a performance hit on newer games.

Even if they support two versions of Ouya at a time. Soon or later they will make some games that can't be played on the old one.

 

[Celice]

Even if they support two versions of Ouya at a time. Soon or later they will make some games that can't be played on the old one.

I don't know--the xbox 360 skimmed by with out-of-date hardware for quite some time. So long as OUYA keeps up with its market of developers, setting its own benchmarks, the idea of an "outdated" version is a hard one to attain.

 

[KingVamp]

I don't know--the xbox 360 skimmed by with out-of-date hardware for quite some time. So long as OUYA keeps up with its market of developers, setting its own benchmarks, the idea of an "outdated" version is a hard one to attain.

How long do you think the 360 will be supported when the 720 comes? Wouldn't 720 games not be able to play on the 360 unless scale downed? Would they keep scaling down games when a new version of the hardware is out?

I hope you know what I'm getting at.

 

[Jaems]

For $99, it may not be the best console, but it's likely to be the best television boxset at the price. Open-source, unlimited apps, XMBC, Netflix, Browser, emulators, and a controller. It'll definitely go good in my parents living room instead of buying an Apple TV.

 

[Celice]

How long do you think the 360 will be supported when the 720 comes? Wouldn't 720 games not be able to play on the 360 unless scale downed? Would they keep scaling down gams when a new version of the hardware is out?

I hope you know what I'm getting at.

Thus, notice I said, and emphasized, OUYA's library. If its software is created in an enclosed environment, there's no need to worry about the hardware being unable to keep up. This is how each console generation survives: it artificially limits the hardware, and develops the software around such limitation. Though there are games which push the hardware at times, and lose performance, there is always a standard by which software is made, so as to always have marketability.

I do not see such trends being bucked by OUYA. At best, I do see select software that is limited to the better hardware, but more I would see different versions of games that would run at different settings/qualities depending on the version of OUYA one has purchased and owns.

The idea behind having different tiers is not necessarily inconsistent, exploitative treatment of its consumer base. It can easily go that way, but potentialities is hardly something to cry fear over. It is enough to recognize the potential and observe the OUYA market cautiously. One who invests blindly can suck their own thumbs if it turns out to be a spiked investment.

 

[Foxi4]

I can't understand all the hate on Ouya. For $100 I have a device that will run xbmc, emulators, games, and android apps on my TV. I guess I could use a raspberry pi for xbmc but I don't really know, nor care, to use linux. I can't wait to receive my Ouya.

You don't know or care to use Linux however you can't wait to receive your Android-powered OUYA, Android being a distribution of Linux.

Alright.

For $99, it may not be the best console, but it's likely to be the best television boxset at the price. Open-source, unlimited apps, XMBC, Netflix, Browser, emulators, and a controller. It'll definitely go good in my parents living room instead of buying an Apple TV.

With Exyonos 5 just around the corner? Naw. As for the controller, OUYA's controller < PS3's controller over Bluetooth.

 

[Luckkill4u]

For $99, it may not be the best console, but it's likely to be the best television boxset at the price. Open-source, unlimited apps, XMBC, Netflix, Browser, emulators, and a controller. It'll definitely go good in my parents living room instead of buying an Apple TV.

Yes, yes, yesyesyes and YES. I will have to say this will be much better than Apple TV ever is, now I can only wish it had a TV tuner lol.

 

[Forstride]

But, but...It's indie! So it must be good! Right guys? Guys...?

OUYA is shit. End of discussion.