Hardware Nyko to show new peripheral at e3

[Sychophantom]

Everyone assumes this is for the 3DS, but I don't see where Nyko said it will be.

3DS Consoles, Accessories, and Hardware section here.

"a handheld peripheral"

"overcome a blatant Nintendo oversight"

Let's see. The only current Nintendo handheld is the 3DS. Nyko wouldn't waste their money making something for a dead horse.

The only other possible "handheld" Nintendo has, if you REALLY want to push it, is the Wii U controller. Which isn't out yet.

So, Nintendo handheld = 3DS.

No, it says a "handheld peripheral". That doesn't automatically mean 3DS. It could be something like a wireless version of the classic controller for the Wii.

It's LIKELY for the 3DS, but that doesn't mean it is.

 

[Sicklyboy]

Everyone assumes this is for the 3DS, but I don't see where Nyko said it will be.

3DS Consoles, Accessories, and Hardware section here.

"a handheld peripheral"

"overcome a blatant Nintendo oversight"

Let's see. The only current Nintendo handheld is the 3DS. Nyko wouldn't waste their money making something for a dead horse.

The only other possible "handheld" Nintendo has, if you REALLY want to push it, is the Wii U controller. Which isn't out yet.

So, Nintendo handheld = 3DS.

No, it says a "handheld peripheral". That doesn't automatically mean 3DS. It could be something like a wireless version of the classic controller for the Wii.

It's LIKELY for the 3DS, but that doesn't mean it is.

http://www.amazon.co...N/dp/B001PKX6RI

Because a company like Nyko is going to copycat rather than make something new.

Riiiiiiiight.

Edit - "a handheld peripheral" means a peripheral for a handheld, not a peripheral that IS handheld (which in the first case, it is handheld by nature). Major oversights with the Wii? The only recent ones are lack of gc support on the new models. The new models you need to replace the dvd drive and solder a lot of components on to get it working with GC stuff.

It's a 3DS accessory, man.

 

[JulietStMoon]

Dude, that thing is a cheap POS... of course Nyko would take the opportunity to improve on something that already exists, but isn't that good. After all, they're not the only ones who develop battery packs, right? And they said themselves, this product is to fix an oversight by Nintendo, and I personally can't think of many fixable "oversights" aside from the lack of a wireless Wii classic controller and dual analogs on the Wii.

**EDIT**
Check that... apparently Nyko already made a wireless classic controller (although it's only "wireless" in the sense that a dongle attaches to the Wiimote, which likely introduces lag and doesnt add enough functionality to be worth it). So yeah, probably not a wireless controller (unless it's one that connects directly to the Wii, rather than to the wiimote).

http://www.nyko.com/products/product-detail/?name=Wing

 

[LAA]

I'm hoping for a battery pak + circle pad pro combined. Thats what I wanted CPP to have in the beginning, it seemed like the best way to improve 3DS battery life, but they ignored it and 3DS still has one of the worst battery lifes I've seen.
I just hope they actually support UK with their products, I wanted power pak before CPP got shown, so kinda killed the purpose of using the power pak if you wanted to play a game supporting CPP.
If not that, I really dont know what else

 

[Sicklyboy]

Dude, that thing is a cheap POS... of course Nyko would take the opportunity to improve on something that already exists, but isn't that good. After all, they're not the only ones who develop battery packs, right? And they said themselves, this product is to fix an oversight by Nintendo, and I personally can't think of many fixable "oversights" aside from the lack of a wireless Wii classic controller and dual analogs on the Wii.

**EDIT**
Check that... apparently Nyko already made a wireless classic controller (although it's only "wireless" in the sense that a dongle attaches to the Wiimote, which likely introduces lag and doesnt add enough functionality to be worth it). So yeah, probably not a wireless controller (unless it's one that connects directly to the Wii, rather than to the wiimote).

http://www.nyko.com/...tail/?name=Wing

So making one that wirelessly syncs with the Wii itself instead of a Wii remote (and not everything that's RF has massive, or any, noticeable lag, you know) would likely be over $70 and pointless because you need a Wii remote to plug the classic controller into. So sure, build a (functionless) wii remote into a classic controller. Or just use a Wavebird (or does that lag too)

The article clearly says that they're fixing a blatant oversight. Fixing, which likely implies nobody else has done it yet.

 

[JulietStMoon]

So making one that wirelessly syncs with the Wii itself instead of a Wii remote (and not everything that's RF has massive, or any, noticeable lag, you know) would likely be over $70 and pointless because you need a Wii remote to plug the classic controller into. So sure, build a (functionless) wii remote into a classic controller. Or just use a Wavebird (or does that lag too) The article clearly says that they're fixing a blatant oversight. Fixing, which likely implies nobody else has done it yet.

Sheesh, chill dude. I'm just trying to have a civil exchange of ideas with you here.

The Wing's reviews mostly say there is some lag. Normally, I dismiss that as people being picky, but it makes sense when you consider that it's doing double duty... it has to communicate with the wiimote, which in turn has to communicate AGAIN with the Wii. To me, it's quite believable that would throw some lag in.

Wavebird is great... until you play a game not compatible with it. Or until the Wii-U comes out, when "all Wii peripherals will be compatible," but not Gamecube peripherals.

And like I said, I agree with you... it's most likely not a controller. Out of curiosity, what do you think it might be though? Cuz I'm fresh out of ideas.

 

[Sychophantom]

Because a company like Nyko is going to copycat rather than make something.

Wow. That's funny. Kind of like saying Madcatz does nothing but original things for consoles, or Datel codes all their own work.

 

[Wizerzak]

I'm gonna guess a new CPP but with the circle pad located under the abxy buttons.

 

[DiscostewSM]

A magic bomb that, when you throw it on your 3DS, explodes and magically gives it a second analog and pair of trigger buttons built in, along with a better screen and battery!

*cue LoZ new item found jingle*


As far as a CPP with the slider just below the face buttons, I'm kinda doubting that. The thickness alone would prevent the screen from closing shut, leading to potential broken screens. Having to continually remove the attachment just to close it would be a hassle.

 

[Dingoo-fan 32]

A wireless charger like Galaxy SIII! or something like this...

 

[awssk8er]

Maybe something that slots over the topscreen to make the 3D viewable at ANY angle? im not sure how something like that would work but hell, if they managed to pull off something like that then id buy it.

Better (slimmer) battery that slots in nicely without compromising the feel of the 3DS would be an instant buy for me and if they managed to find a case that has a 2nd analog that slides just under the ABXY buttons then that would be great.

All 3 = SOLD!

That's what I immediately thought. Like you said, I have no idea how they would do that....

I'm guessing either:
1) Something to make viewing the 3D easier (Like said above)
2) Slimmer Circle Pad Pro accessory
3) Circle Pad Pro accessory that is also a case. Or a case that fits' over the CPP or something.
4) Circle Pad Pro with battery attachment bulit in.

Most likely either 2 or 4.

 

[JulietStMoon]

A magic bomb that, when you throw it on your 3DS, explodes and magically gives it a second analog and pair of trigger buttons built in, along with a better screen and battery!

*cue LoZ new item found jingle*


As far as a CPP with the slider just below the face buttons, I'm kinda doubting that. The thickness alone would prevent the screen from closing shut, leading to potential broken screens. Having to continually remove the attachment just to close it would be a hassle.

Considering how the original cpp isn't very practical for portable use, I don't see why this would be an issue... the whole point of a cpp revision, imho, would be to streamline it so the analog feels and places more natural as if it's part of the system (original cpp putting a 3D- device with a small sweetspot off center is NOT cool at all). But that's just me

 

[Luigi2012SM64DS]

i hope nyko gives off the encription codes

 

[gamefan5]

Maybe something that slots over the topscreen to make the 3D viewable at ANY angle? im not sure how something like that would work but hell, if they managed to pull off something like that then id buy it.

Better (slimmer) battery that slots in nicely without compromising the feel of the 3DS would be an instant buy for me and if they managed to find a case that has a 2nd analog that slides just under the ABXY buttons then that would be great.

All 3 = SOLD!

I actually loled at the 1st one. It's not 'exactly' the top screen at fault but it's how your eyes view it.

 

[BenRK]

Maybe! MAYBE! It's a complete case replacement for the 3DS that offers built in CPP and includes a better battery! That would be awesome and inside the realm of possibility for cases and a little bit of soldering me things... I'll be right back...

 

[MelodieOctavia]

A magic bomb that, when you throw it on your 3DS, explodes and magically gives it a second analog and pair of trigger buttons built in, along with a better screen and battery!

*cue LoZ new item found jingle*


As far as a CPP with the slider just below the face buttons, I'm kinda doubting that. The thickness alone would prevent the screen from closing shut, leading to potential broken screens. Having to continually remove the attachment just to close it would be a hassle.

Considering how the original cpp isn't portable at all, I don't see why this would be an issue... the whole point of a cpp revision, imho, would be to streamline it so the analog feels and places more natural as if it's part of the system (original cpp putting a 3D- device with a small sweetspot off center is NOT cool at all). But that's just me

Wait...what? Have you ever seen a Game Gear?

People like you have lost touch with reality of what portable means. It means you can take it with you. Just because you can't fit it in your pocket, it does not mean it's not portable.

/rant

 

[JulietStMoon]

*Response to BS*

 

[Pleng]

Wait...what? Have you ever seen a Game Gear?

People like you have lost touch with reality of what portable means. It means you can take it with you. Just because you can't fit it in your pocket, it does not mean it's not portable.

/rant

In true @zantigo style, I'll break down your comment into sections...

1) Holds modern portables to the standards of a 20 year old not-especially-commercially-successful one

2) Calls me out of touch with reality

The point is portable does not mean it fits in your pocket. You said it's not portable at all, which means there's no way you can take it with you. If you'd said 'far too bulky to fit in your pocket' then there'd have been no issue. But you insinuated that there's no way you can take the 3DS anywhere once the CPP is attached.

 

[JulietStMoon]

*Response to BS*

 

[kthnxshwn]

Wait...what? Have you ever seen a Game Gear?

People like you have lost touch with reality of what portable means. It means you can take it with you. Just because you can't fit it in your pocket, it does not mean it's not portable.

/rant

In true @zantigo style, I'll break down your comment into sections...

1) Holds modern portables to the standards of a 20 year old not-especially-commercially-successful one

2) Calls me out of touch with reality

Of course 20 years ago, fitting in your pocket wasn't possibly, simply because of the technology of the time (same with the Gameboy). Heck, cell phones around that time were big, bulky pieces of junk that you had to fit into carrying cases. But technology has improved since then, as have expectations. Now, phones are expected to fit in your pocket (even ones designed to be large, such as the Samsung Galaxy Note). And starting with the DS Lite, same thing with portable gaming devices.

Face it, Nintendo made a huge oversight, no denying it: The 3DS didn't have dual analogs, and as soon as Nintendo saw the Vita would have them and that companies like Capcom and left-handed players would WANT decent controls in games that called for them, they released a too-little-too-late clunky add-on that's impractical beyond belief.

Sure, the CPP a handy device, no denying that. It makes the 3DS arguably comfier to hold, and adds nice functionality. But the problem is, the 3DS shouldn't HAVE to need a clunky add-on for such buttons. If someone wants a comfort grip, fine, they can buy one. But it's absolutely outrageous that you need something that greatly hinders the portability of the 3DS (anyone who denies it at least HINDERS it is in complete denial) and throws the 3D screen off center just to have such basic functionality that should have been there in the first place.

Personally, I'm a college student who (at least during the school year) carries his backpack everywhere, so the CPP actually wouldn't be THAT much of a hassle for me. But it's still a complete irritant, especially since you have to shift your arms to the right JUST to see the screen on center.

If you have no problem with it, fine, more power to you. But don't go around acting like it's a given fact that YOU'RE right and the CPP can't possibly be annoying and impractical to many people who think differently. So who's out of touch with reality again?

Your entire posts explains something that he didn't attack. He was saying that you saying the CPP makes the 3DS "not portable at all" was a ludicrous statement - and it was.