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Discussion in 'General Off-Topic Chat' started by noob killer, Apr 7, 2013.
why exactly is this going on, and considering the size of their country do they stand a chance?
What does the size of a country have to do with anything? Germany pretty much conquered most of Europe with its size. The point is that there 100% not going to win if there is a war, but they could make a lot of damage anyways.
They shake their fist at the US to increase national pride to the point where there citizens forget how miserable they are. Its only intended to keep the current regime in power -- they have no intention of going to war with us.
You can relax now.
North Korea be mad.
They've decided that the truce between the two Koreas is no longer in effect. They've been working on nuclear technology. It's known that they want to attack the US, may invade South Korea, and have missiles that could travel as far as the west coast of the US if they were to make an attack.
Unfortunately for them, they are one of the poorest countries on the planet, are highly dependent on other countries, and are burning bridges left and right. As it stands, North Korea has completely cut off communications with South Korea, and it's unknown when they plan to attack, or who they may attack first. If they do attack the US, it's unlikely that their attack would actually be successful. If it was, it would be grounds for the US to essentially wipe North Korea off the face of the planet. It's hard to say what the possible repercussions of a nuclear strike from anybody might be, but it's possible that it's the only kind of attack that North Korea will attempt to use.
All in all, any country at risk is operating as if North Korea is blowing hot air, but also with a watchful gaze. If North Korea tries anything, it may simply end with North Korea being invaded/blown to high hell. It could escalate much further.
We'll just have to wait and see.
...with their sticks, stones and old, Soviet/Chinese rocket technology that they were "trying" to develop over the years. Yeah, sure.
The thing about Germany was that it had military technology superior to any other country in the beginning of the war despite the embargos and threaties forbidding them from manufacturing and amassing weaponry - they had pristine, new, "next generation" gear unlike the Allies. Moreover, Hitler knew that he won't win the war all by themselves hence he established the Axis. Germany also had the benefit of "Surprise" since the response of the "League of Nations" was severely delayed and Germany was allowed to have a head start. North Korea doesn't have those advantages.
Add on to that, Japan pretty much conquered half of Pacific during first half of WW2.
North Korea knows that they don't have cutting edge technology, so if a war does brake out expect some unconventional tactics. Their advantage that often overlooked is size of their army.
Honestly speaking though, I think this rising tension is for some international attentions, not actual war.
I'm starting to see a trend with these posts on the forum. Chances are they serve little threat to countries outside their immediate vicinity but considering their "eccentricity" to put it mildly who knows for sure if they have some competence tucked away somewhere.
...and immediately withdrew in the aftermath of Hiroshima and Nagasaki because they stood no chance. A small and very condensed outpost is not a good thing for an army - a series of attacks would decimate them completely and they realized that.
Which, again, is enclosed within North Korea. They're not exactly a threat when they're not mobile and in the event of war, they would become surrounded pretty quickly.
North Korea is in no way prepared for a war with the whole world - North Korea is an upset, spoiled little kid on a playground, threatening other, older and smarter kids that it'll hit them in the ankles with a plastic shovel and the older, smarter kids are being the bigger men and refuse to take the bait and get in trouble since their parents giving them grief is a far worse perspective than just enduring the torture of having to play on the same playground as the little brat.
It's just another pissing contest...
The United States has a more powerful military than the next 5-10 countries combined - and that's including China. North Korea can't even feed its soldiers.
If it came to war, North Korea would be done. Gone. Kaput. Simple as that.
So why don't we just take them out now? Two reasons - Basically, China wants North Korea as a buffer zone between them and US influence (ie South Korea). China's getting real tired of their shit, though; they've basically told NK that if war breaks out, they're on their own.
Secondly, North Korea is holding South Korea hostage. North Korea has tons of missiles pointing at Seoul, and about a million or so soldiers ready to invade through underground tunnels at any given time. North Korea's defeat would be inevitable - but they would take a lot of South Korea down with them.
(And also tons of innocent people would die in the aftermath, and the refugee situation would be horrendous.)
Still, the leadership of North Korea knows that they'd be wiped off the map in an actual war - even if they were only captured, they'd face lengthy imprisonment or execution for crimes against humanity (if you want to sleep well tonight, don't go looking up descriptions of NK's concentration camps - trust me). So why are they acting like they want to go to war?
The key word there is "acting". It's a show. The ruling elite of North Korea are pretty comfortable - they don't want to lose that. However, they do want concessions. So they act crazy on the world stage. The message is clear: "Hey, if you guys don't send us some more aid, well, who knows what could happen? Maybe we'll actually do it this time. Better not chance it!" They're fishing for appeasement.
There's also a lot of other stuff at play here, too. North Korea is antagonizing the rest of the world to its people so they keep in line; sure, you may be starving, but the rest of the world is even worse! Some also speculate that Kim Jong-Un is trying to solidify his support among the country's military elite. If he can't show them that he's strong, well, they might decide that it's time he got replaced. Others are suggesting that the North Korean government wants 1-on-1 talks with the United States, something they think would legitimize them more on the world stage. Maybe Kim Jong Un just wants to know how far he can push the US without retaliation for future reference.
TL;DR: If North Korea actually wanted war, they wouldn't be telegraphing it like this. They pull these stunts all the time - they'll back down eventually, and then they'll do it again, as they always have.
I actually hope for all-out war because human beings are trash and pain is the only way we'll learn anything. Have a nice day!
I seriously hope that's sarcasm. Wishing for war and death is just idiotic. That applies to the North Koreans as well. They may be somwhat brainwashed but they are still human beings. Watch this video and see how they are living there.
What's going on? Pretty much this:
The North Korean government is as Chaotic Evil as they get.
I want you to feel pain, to think about pain, to accept pain, to know pain
I really feel sorry for the people over there, they live in some of the worse conditions possible for human beings, they have little to no idea how the world outside of the country is, they are brainwashed into thinking they have some of the best treatment in the world and that their leader invented both Burgers and the Internet.
But the North Korean government is funny as hell. Too bad you cant nuke the government and leave the people alone
Yeah, the NK's are totally brain-washed and afraid of their whole family being thrown into concentration camps if they don't agree with their all powerful God/Dictator. The 2 stealth bombers we (the US) sent over the other day have the capability to drop 32 large scale nukes on their little country and wipe them off the face of the Earth. Bottom line is those brain-washed men, women and children in North Korea can't help what they've been brought up to believe. I hope it never comes down to a war. It wouldn't be pretty.
What are you all talking about?
North Korea is Best Korea