Hardware Nintendo theory

[Nollog]

3DS is just the return of the Modern Nintendo aka N64-GameCube. Which is the worst Nintendo.

No, I vote the Virtual Boy. I don't know where you were in the mid-nineties, but the N64 was amazing, and still is. Fact not opinion (well the "still is" is opinion).

No 3DS is totally different than Virtual Boy.

What she is saying is she didn't like how nintendo handled the virtual boy.

People who have played the VB say it had some great games, everyone just rags on the console though since it's a health risk to play it.

 

[godreborn]

the sad thing about both the ds and wii is that most people bought them for their gimicks as in touch-screen or motion-sensing, but after a while that feeling wore off and many gamers demanded games with normal controls hence why nearly ever game released for both systems uses both normal controls and their gimicky counterparts now. I think a lot of companies feel that if they make their games for either the ds or wii that they r forced to use touchscreen or motion-sensing or y release for the system? as a result, many companies just move on to the 360 or ps3 since touch-screen and motion-sensing only work well on a very small number of games. I don't think nintendo understands that. 3d gaming will be the same way. nintendo needs to go with something that works--pure gaming at its core--rather than some stupid gimick to get their foot in the door.

 

[KingVamp]

Ha! All this is just self assumption and no facts.

Edit: Really didn't feel like breaking down his post.

 

[Nollog]

As with everything, it depends how it's implemented.

 

[bigpaws]

if every hard core gamer only cared about graphics, they would make themselves a $1000 gaming computer and play every game ever made on it
game pad, check
3d moniter X 4 check
no subscription for online
emulators and or regular releases for all games
cheaper games too
no reason for a console if the only thing they care about is graphics
what with kinect on pc as well etc why would you buy a console
so
what drives people to buy consoles?
one could have their extreme pc for less then all consoles combined
$400 + $400 +$200 for all three current gen
$1000 is a great game pc
so why?
handhelds make sence since on cant carry that $1000 pc on their back
they provide gaming on the go for those who travel etc
but why do people buy consoles?

 

[machomuu]

if every hard core gamer only cared about graphics, they would make themselves a $1000 gaming computer and play every game ever made on it
game pad, check
3d moniter X 4 check
no subscription for online
emulators and or regular releases for all games
cheaper games too
no reason for a console if the only thing they care about is graphics
what with kinect on pc as well etc why would you buy a console
so
what drives people to buy consoles?
one could have their extreme pc for less then all consoles combined
$400 + $400 +$200 for all three current gen
$1000 is a great game pc
so why?
handhelds make sence since on cant carry that $1000 pc on their back
they provide gaming on the go for those who travel etc
but why do people buy consoles?

bigpaws please stop saying a few words per line. It makes the thread unnecessarily long
Also, people don't buy consoles because they don't have the world's most powerful computer, they buy them for the games, the features, in some cases the graphics, DLC, the company, many different reasons.
In fact, if there were a handheld that was as strong as a console, I suspect the console would sell more for many reasons.

 

[Ikki]

if every hard core gamer only cared about graphics, they would make themselves a $1000 gaming computer and play every game ever made on it
game pad, check
3d moniter X 4 check
no subscription for online
emulators and or regular releases for all games
cheaper games too
no reason for a console if the only thing they care about is graphics
what with kinect on pc as well etc why would you buy a console
so
what drives people to buy consoles?
one could have their extreme pc for less then all consoles combined
$400 + $400 +$200 for all three current gen
$1000 is a great game pc
so why?
handhelds make sence since on cant carry that $1000 pc on their back
they provide gaming on the go for those who travel etc
but why do people buy consoles?

That was terrible.

Show me a video of someone decently playing God of War 3 and I may discuss.

 

[Nollog]

$1000 is a great game pc
so why?
handhelds make sence since on cant carry that $1000 pc on their back
they provide gaming on the go for those who travel etc
but why do people buy consoles?

$1000 would get a mid-to-high range computer tower, but not monitor.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiQ0AnlfBu4

Consoles are simplistic. It takes all the work out of getting a game playing.
It's there where you want it, attached to your main TV in your main room.

Similar statement to: Why do you wear your shoes when you can just pull on a pair of socks?
If you're thinking "to avoid injury", chances are the shoes you're wearing right now wouldn't stop a nail, or piece of glass from ripping holes in your foot.

Honestly, I'm not sure why people buy PS3 and Xbox360's aside from having PC games without installing them, but Nintendo, who release the best games in the world don't release on PC.

 

[Slyakin]

I don't know WHY you would even say this.

They wouldn't blatantly just say "OH HEY, WE'RE GONNA RELEASE A NEW CONSOLE IN 3 YEARS, HERP DERP"

It's called private company development.

 

[bigpaws]

no but companies give mini hints
ngp was not anounced until recently but people knew something powerful was coming b/c of hints

another thing
gamecube was 5 when wii was released
n64 was 5 when gamecube was released
snes was 5 when n64 was released
nes was 5 when snes was released

it has been 5 years since wii and here the 3ds is going to be released, not a console
i make the asumtion that efforts have been focused on 3ds thus no console would be in development
i think that nintendo tradition dictates that the 3ds is a console replacement

 

[machomuu]

no but companies give mini hints
ngp was not anounced until recently but people knew something powerful was coming b/c of hints

another thing
gamecube was 5 when wii was released
n64 was 5 when gamecube was released
snes was 5 when n64 was released
nes was 5 when snes was released

it has been 5 years since wii and here the 3ds is going to be released, not a console
i make the asumtion that efforts have been focused on 3ds thus no console would be in development
i think that nintendo tradition dictates that the 3ds is a console replacement

That's only in America. The SFC was released one year before it was available overseas, and the and the Famicom was released two years prior to availability overseas. So those are inconsistent, as they do not represent Japan, where the systems are always released first.

 

[bigpaws]

yes but what about the consoles after sfc
my point is with the us not jp

 

[machomuu]

yes but what about the consoles after sfc
my point is with the us not jp

How? Sony and Nintendo aren't American and the release of the systems overseas don't mean a thing when it comes to Nintendo.

 

[bigpaws]

the release dates for america are spaced 5 years apart
nintendoi of america coralates that and the patern is continuing with 3ds
there is no pattern in jp
it took longer to translate back then but they could have waited or pushed a system before or after they actually
released it. 3ds is 5 years after wii in america. my point is that in american release dates cant be compared with japan.

 

[machomuu]

the release dates for america are spaced 5 years apart
nintendoi of america coralates that and the patern is continuing with 3ds
there is no pattern in jp
it took longer to translate back then but they could have waited or pushed a system before or after they actually
released it. 3ds is 5 years after wii in america. my point is that in american release dates cant be compared with japan.

But there's a contradiction in your statement. You said the NoA correlated the pattern with the 3DS, however the 3DS is shipping in most countries in the same 62 day period as Japan. However, NoA has no power when it comes to Nintendo, and while they do control the release dates, if what you said were true, then the 3DS would be released around the Fall season.

 

[neotank19]

How? Sony and Nintendo aren't American and the release of the systems overseas don't mean a thing when it comes to Nintendo.

I think their bottom lines would disagree.

 

[Ikki]

But there's a contradiction in your statement.

You tell 'im, Phoenix.

 

[SS4]

Well if they release a new console it might be as powerful as the xbox 360 but not as much as the PS3. The wii is like 2 gen behind, it performs the same as an overclocked gamecube (which was behind the crapbox and the PS2 in performance as well) and the only selling point they have is a gimmicky controller that didnt even worked properly before they came out with the wiimotte plus...

They do have some good game and I love my DS, but on the hardware front they are too far behind imo...

So yeah the 3DS will be great but it cant replace console as it still lacks Horsepower.

 

[ecko]

Well if they release a new console it might be as powerful as the xbox 360 but not as much as the PS3. The wii is like 2 gen behind, it performs the same as an overclocked gamecube (which was behind the crapbox and the PS2 in performance as well) and the only selling point they have is a gimmicky controller that didnt even worked properly before they came out with the wiimotte plus...

They do have some good game and I love my DS, but on the hardware front they are too far behind imo...

So yeah the 3DS will be great but it cant replace console as it still lacks Horsepower.

but the wii wasn't meant in the first place to be a console for the hardcore gamer, but is geared towards family gameplay and the casual gamer
so it's only natural that it doesnt have alot of power compared to the other consoles

 

[Nollog]

no but companies give mini hints
ngp was not anounced until recently but people knew something powerful was coming b/c of hints
LEAKS
Nintendo can control their information.
Sony can not.
Microsoft don't even know what information control is.

Well if they release a new console it might be as powerful as the xbox 360 but not as much as the PS3. The wii is like 2 gen behind, it performs the same as an overclocked gamecube (which was behind the crapbox and the PS2 in performance as well) and the only selling point they have is a gimmicky controller that didnt even worked properly before they came out with the wiimotte plus...
gamecube was better speced than the ps2, which was better speced than the xbox.
Get yo facts straight, yo.
3rd parties screwed the gamecube.

The wii remote worked fine when it came out. They improved it.
It's what some companies do to allow themselves and their customers to use their product better.

QUOTE(ecko @ Feb 6 2011, 12:32 PM)

but the wii wasn't meant in the first place to be a console for the hardcore gamer, but is geared towards family gameplay and the casual gamer
so it's only natural that it doesnt have alot of power compared to the other consoles

Yes it was.
Don't kid yourself.
They aimed the Wii at gamers.
What you mean to say is: Nintendo didn't intend to fight this generation on CPU speeds, but on controlling and gameplay mechanics.