Hacking Nintendo Switch Banning Hub & Warning

[Windsall]

I haven't modded my switch yet, but asking in advance,
If someone uses emunand and is able to go between sysnand and the custom one, is it easy to make sure it's not connected to online when going to the custom one?
Or is it more just about turning off online (and go in airplane mode) when launching things from the sd card with emunand?

(I may still not fully understand how it works)

 

[pcwizard7]

I haven't modded my switch yet, but asking in advance,
If someone uses emunand and is able to go between sysnand and the custom one, is it easy to make sure it's not connected to online when going to the custom one?
Or is it more just about turning off online (and go in airplane mode) when launching things from the sd card with emunand?

(I may still not fully understand how it works)

you can setup a host file to block all Nintendo servers when booting into emu

 

[Windsall]

you can setup a host file to block all Nintendo servers when booting into emu

Ok thanks. If it's part of the options in the program then that makes it easy.

 

[pcwizard7]

Ok thanks. If it's part of the options in the program then that makes it easy.

https://gbatemp.net/threads/90dns-d...-nintendo-servers.516234/page-28#post-9488528

 

[Windsall]

https://gbatemp.net/threads/90dns-d...-nintendo-servers.516234/page-28#post-9488528

Is that for people who don't go offline with the emunand?

 

[pcwizard7]

Is that for people who don't go offline with the emunand?

yes, there are some homebrews that require local network or internet to run

 

[jellybeangreen2]

I haven't modded my switch yet, but asking in advance,
If someone uses emunand and is able to go between sysnand and the custom one, is it easy to make sure it's not connected to online when going to the custom one?
Or is it more just about turning off online (and go in airplane mode) when launching things from the sd card with emunand?

(I may still not fully understand how it works)

I have been using emunand since release. I don’t create any host files, dns etc. Because people forget if you take the switch with you to a different location. All your settings aren’t in place.

anyways, when I got my switch up the very first time. I just set up my switch like normal. Connect to WIFI, sign in and link your NNID etc. When on Home Screen, remove your WiFi settings. Put in to aeroplane mode. Ensure all other features are on for Jon cons etc, that’s it. Don’t run any games etc make sure no game card inserted. This will be your cleanest nand dump. Use the most recommended tool to take a sysnand dump. Do it three times. Then to a comparison. If they match done. You can then go back and enable WiFi on the switch on sysnand. With your nand dumps you can use these for your emunand. Set up emunand. Update to X firmware. Then back it up to a safe location, gdrive, NAS etc. I have all nand dumps with X firmware going from 4.1.0 up to 12.0. Reason for this, if something happens with your emunand after installing anything, your sd card dies. No worries just grab your latest emunand backup from your gdrive, nas etc and copy back over. Done.

some other things I do just to ensure I’m on sysnand / emunand. I use one micro sd for sysnand 256gb and a separate micro sd for emunand 512gb. I also have the black background for sysnand and white for emunand. This method I’ve been using with SXOS since launch and I have recently switched to Atmosphere, no issue. No ban risk.

I hope this helps.

 

[pcwizard7]

I have been using emunand since release. I don’t create any host files, dns etc. Because people forget if you take the switch with you to a different location. All your settings aren’t in place.

I hope this helps.

This method the dns host is on your sd card so any wi fi network you connect to will aby these rules
https://gbatemp.net/threads/90dns-d...-nintendo-servers.516234/page-28#post-9488528

This is the same as the host file on windows ("C:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\host") its making these address loop back onto the device itself so if it tries to look up these address it will just go to the switch local ip meaning connection fails

 

[jellybeangreen2]

This method the dns host is on your sd card so any wi fi network you connect to will aby these rules
https://gbatemp.net/threads/90dns-d...-nintendo-servers.516234/page-28#post-9488528

This is the same as the host file on windows ("C:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\host") its making these address loop back onto the device itself so if it tries to look up these address it will just go to the switch local ip meaning connection fails

Good to know it’s been updated. But no need for internet on emunand for me. The day Nintendo create a new name server and your host file / 90DNS isn’t updated with the latest server info to block is your Switch banned and online gone.

 

[pcwizard7]

Good to know it’s been updated. But no need for internet on emunand for me. The day Nintendo create a new name server and your host file / 90DNS isn’t updated with the latest server info to block is your Switch banned and online gone.

Check the gitlab before you update the firmware for updates. A good measure to add to list if your concern

 

[jellybeangreen2]

Check the gitlab before you update the firmware for updates. A good measure to add to list if your concern

People don’t read firmware changelogs at the best of times. Good idea but the risk is still there. Each to their own. By keeping emunand offline your risk of ban is minimal if non-existent. Emunand + NSPs/XCI/duplicate tickets. Also your usages logs sent back to Nintendo would = a ban.

again personal choice.

 

[Windsall]

I have been using emunand since release. I don’t create any host files, dns etc. Because people forget if you take the switch with you to a different location. All your settings aren’t in place.

anyways, when I got my switch up the very first time. I just set up my switch like normal. Connect to WIFI, sign in and link your NNID etc. When on Home Screen, remove your WiFi settings. Put in to aeroplane mode. Ensure all other features are on for Jon cons etc, that’s it. Don’t run any games etc make sure no game card inserted. This will be your cleanest nand dump. Use the most recommended tool to take a sysnand dump. Do it three times. Then to a comparison. If they match done. You can then go back and enable WiFi on the switch on sysnand. With your nand dumps you can use these for your emunand. Set up emunand. Update to X firmware. Then back it up to a safe location, gdrive, NAS etc. I have all nand dumps with X firmware going from 4.1.0 up to 12.0. Reason for this, if something happens with your emunand after installing anything, your sd card dies. No worries just grab your latest emunand backup from your gdrive, nas etc and copy back over. Done.

some other things I do just to ensure I’m on sysnand / emunand. I use one micro sd for sysnand 256gb and a separate micro sd for emunand 512gb. I also have the black background for sysnand and white for emunand. This method I’ve been using with SXOS since launch and I have recently switched to Atmosphere, no issue. No ban risk.

I hope this helps.

I will do something like this and probably just not use my emunand online. I was also told there was the option 'incognito' and wonder if I should turn that on in case the switch could somehow connect to a random wifi hot spot (can that happen?).

do emunand backups include installed games and saves and all that? If so that could be useful but also use up a lot of space for back ups, so I doubt I would make more than 1 or 2 at most.

 

[jellybeangreen2]

I will do something like this and probably just not use my emunand online. I was also told there was the option 'incognito' and wonder if I should turn that on in case the switch could somehow connect to a random wifi hot spot (can that happen?).

do emunand backups include installed games and saves and all that? If so that could be useful but also use up a lot of space for back ups, so I doubt I would make more than 1 or 2 at most.

Thats exactly what I do. No need for internet on emunand.
As for incognito, I have heard and watch others use it. However the very first line on the GitHub is:

“This application does not remove all personal information from your Switch, and should not be treated as a true preventative measure against getting banned”

On this basis no one should be relying on these types of apps as 100% preventative.

Incognito will clear certain console identification information, but again if you logically go online with emunand and say update the firmware and Nintendo add something extra in place to reference. Incognito is redundant. - If your switch is in aeroplane mode it will never attempt to connect. - I know a friend at work who connected to Espoo when CDN downloads were possible in the early days, console banned. Whenever having internet connected to a modded console your console is always at risk of ban. 360, PS3, Switch. Been there done that. Just keep the modded part offline, no need for online in my personal opinion.

yes, emunand does hold games and saves if you took a backup.

 

[Windsall]

@Lacius It's this last post here I was talking about, regarding incognito.
I was leaning towards just going offline, so it convinced me to go that route.

I'm not totally closed to using shops, but if I can find games elsewhere and use goldleaf to easily install them, then I don't mind being safe about it.

 

[jellybeangreen2]

@Lacius It's this last post here I was talking about, regarding incognito.
I was leaning towards just going offline, so it convinced me to go that route.

I'm not totally closed to using shops, but if I can find games elsewhere and use goldleaf to easily install them, then I don't mind being safe about it.

PM’d.

 

[Veralyn]

Around 8 days ago i accidentally installed 2 nsp games on SYSnand (offline), after realizing i deleted the software ofcourse but i didnt restore my clean nand before i went online, i restored my nand yesterday. Will i be flagged for a ban? And if so how long does it generally take until it happends? So far i haven't been banned though.

When i went online i didn't do much, just log in pokemon unite to claim the daily rewards.

 

[Hayato213]

Around 8 days ago i accidentally installed 2 nsp games on SYSnand (offline), after realizing i deleted the software ofcourse but i didnt restore my clean nand before i went online, i restored my nand yesterday. Will i be flagged for a ban? And if so how long does it generally take until it happends? So far i haven't been banned though.

When i went online i didn't do much, just log in pokemon unite to claim the daily rewards.

sound like you got flagged for a ban already, restoring your NAND doesn't prevent a ban.

 

[Veralyn]

sound like you got flagged for a ban already, restoring your NAND doesn't prevent a ban.

Yea i assumed so, i was just wondering how long it generally take to be banned

 

[Hayato213]

Yea i assumed so, i was just wondering how long it generally take to be banned

That I don't know but I do know you got flagged most likely, maybe a few days to maybe a few weeks, it up to them when to ban you.

 

[Jayro]

That I don't know but I do know you got flagged most likely, maybe a few days to maybe a few weeks, it up to them when to ban you.

It took them a few months to ban me when I accidentally went online in SX OS. I was in the middle of playing the FinalFest on Splatoon 2, in the last few hours of the "last-ever Splatfest" (That was a fucking lie...) and before I could finish, I got the error message, looked it up, and it was an error code that indicated I was console-banned.