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  1. It's all a hoax!

    9.7%
  2. It's true! It took almost two years, but WE WIIIIIINNNNN!!!!

    44.4%
  3. Umm....it might all be a marketing stunt by the big N?

    2.9%
  4. It's probably real, but it might not be able to launch homebrew or roms...

    32.4%
  5. I don't care. -.-

    10.6%
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  1. Roguezz

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    There are now known exploits/hacks that "apparently" work, and one that DOES work. Scroll down to see them. Each exploit is separated by a title in a bold red color.
    Gateway Thread Now Updated
    DEC 10, 2013
    Nintendo 3DS Exploit
    Gateway 3DS Flashcard
    Current Gateway Info-The only working and released exploit
    A NEW EXPLOIT
    There are a few more exploits that are out there, but I haven't looked into them and/or they are irrelevant because they won't be released or aren't realistic.​
     
  2. Ron

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    It's 100% real, not "apparently", not a hoax. neimoid and yellows8 are both respected members of the "scene", and have much to lose from lying, as well, you have those pics. The poll is useless, and will only be misleading.


    Also, kernel, not kernal

    Nice thread though, it's a good idea. Though, perhaps a mod can somehow disable replies, while still allowing edits so it doesn't end up a parallel discussion to the other thread.
     
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  4. Roguezz

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    The poll is just there to poke fun at the trolls. It's just asking people what they think and some seem to think that it's not true, so it lets them express their opinion and not troll as much. And sorry, I always make that mistake of spelling kernel as "kernal". And replies are fine, I'd rather people discuss and post more info here so that I can monitor and add more information as it comes. As long as the main post stays at the top, it should be alright. :)
     
  5. Roguezz

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    THIS WILL BE A NEWS POST, IF A MOD COULD PLEASE MOVE IT UP AS A SECOND POST, THAT'D BE AWESOME!

    Renegade Kid Developer "Jools Watsham" is concerned about 3DS Piracy


    Goodbye Galaxy Games has responded to Jools Watsham about Piracy Concerns
    Please read the following since there seems to be a lot of discussion around the system being "abandoned" by developers because piracy will take over once this exploit comes out

    Here's the main point of it:

    Here's the full article in the spoiler below:

    SOURCE


    Piracy to blame?




    [​IMG]
    This blogpost is a response to the blog post about piracy written by Jools over at:http://joolswatsham.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/3ds-piracy.html
    Jools writes about his fear of the 3DS getting hacked and how his game Dementium II sold around half as much as the first game (Dementium). Jools blames these poor sale figures solely on piracy.
    Every time a developer brings up piracy it feels to me they are putting their heads in the sand. It’s such an easy scapegoat to point your finger at, especially without any factual proof.
    There are tons of other reasons that seem just as legit as piracy. For one, the game wasn’t as wildly available (at least I haven’t seen any copy on store shelves). Secondly, it came late into the Nintendo DS lifecycle opposed to the first game. At this point the Nintendo DS established itself as a casual gaming handheld, yet the game was aimed at a more mature and hardcore public.
    This might also be the reason why the game wasn’t as wide spread as the first game. Shop owners might have been more inclined to put the latest puzzle games on their store shelf instead of a FPS game.
    I notice this myself all the time. While I struggle to find a publisher willing to publish my own original titles as retail products, I have no trouble finding a publisher willing to put out yet another bejewelled clone (in fact, a bejewelled clone of mine is coming to stores this February).
    The above mentioned problems are all speculation, but so is the claim of piracy.
    Another point of interest might be the pricing of games. Especially in Europe (and this is interesting because he talks mainly about poor sales in Europe). An average game upon release costs between 40 and 50 euro over here. Now this is ‘expensive’ but doable where I live, in the Netherlands. Over here the minimum salary is around 1200 euro. However, the game prices stay the same even in countries that have a minimum salary of around 300 euro.
    How many games can be expected to sell in a country where the average game takes up around 16-20% of a family’s income?
    I also think it’s important to take a good look at the quality of games.
    As it turns out Dementium II is a really good game. The people who played it (including me) all seem to really like it and the game got a lot of good reviews.
    However, most of the Nintendo DS library of games consists out of horrible shovelware and quick cash-ins. Making it even worse by bearing a famous (kid) brand and getting ill-informed parents to hand over their hard-earned money only to see their kids toss the game away after 30 minutes of play.
    This hurts the complete industry. Why? Because it is already a big gamble for them with famous kid brands they at least know from Saturday morning TV. So imagine how big the gamble feels like when they are holding Dementium II in their hands, a product they have never heard of, from a company they have never heard of.
    And how many times can a gamble go bad on them before they resort to other means of obtaining the products? I’m not justifying piracy, but I can at least see where they are coming from.
    The seal of quality means nothing. It only makes sure the game doesn’t lockup or mess-up the players system. It does nothing to prevent poor quality of game design or length versus price. My cousin once got a famous kid game that consisted out of 8 mini games that could all be played through within 30 minutes. You feel miserable if you spend money on such a product as a parent!
    Jools goes on to claim that ‘If these hackers really want to mess with the guts of a 3DS, why not become legit developers for it and let the world enjoy their talents’.
    I started programming and hacking on the original Gameboy Classic when I was around 11 years old. Most of the hackers/programmers are quite young. Should all those young people go and rent office spaces and buy equipment worth of thousands of dollars? Because that is what Nintendo requires of legit developers.
    Most likely they cannot even produce a game good enough to publish, because before you can make good game you need to make a lot of bad ones. That’s how you learn the craft. I remember looking and trying to take a part Super Mario Land and learn a great deal from it. Like you said yourself; many of today’s great programmers used to be hackers back in the day.
    So it seems only natural that many of the great programmers of the future are the hackers of today.
    The world has changed, and it seems that Jools (but also Nintendo itself) are a bit disconnected. We live in an age where bedroom coders can create the most creative and awesome products all on their own. Not only that, but they are welcomed to do so by the hardware manufactures. In fact it is these hardware manufactures that provide the needed tools... for free!
    You can look for this at the PC and smart phones. But even more close to home; like Microsoft and XNA for the Xbox. Or what about Playstation Mobile SDK? All free! and you can test your games with a normal retail PS Vita!
    Nintendo hasn’t changed a bit on this level, which is almost ironic since Nintendo is THE platform for unique and creative games, making it only seem natural to support indie development.
    So instead of blaming piracy (which occurs on every platform) or blaming hackers for something we all did at one part of our lives, I would like to suggest that we take a hard good look at ourselves and our industry and try to improve.

    DreamRift (developer of Epic Mickey 2) responds to piracy concerns
    FULL STORY HERE
     
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  6. Shubshub

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    shub13 not shub21
     
  7. Roguezz

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    I just noticed that when you send me the last pm. sorry LAWL XD
     
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    Great idea, I didn't even hear about the friends list thing, or the message through notification. Thanks for this mate.
     
  9. Roguezz

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    No prob, I'll upload more as I get it.
     
  10. Bitbyte

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    Neimod and Xcution are not the same person. Also, as far as I know, there's no homebrew toolchain for 3DS yet, so those pictures are of no significance whatsoever. Remember how yellows8 mentioned they don't have a way to output graphics yet? They are still mapping out all that stuff, so Xcution is probably using the official SDK on his dev unit.
     
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  11. Janthran

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    I lol'd at that image notification.
     
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  12. Roguezz

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    Those pictures were posted by Xcution on 3dbrew.org but i didn't know if they were the same people. But, even if they can't output graphics yet, this is the first real happening in almost 2 years so it's something!
    That notification is from the game "The World Ends With You". Idk if you knew that, but yeah, I lol'd too. haha
     
  13. Shubshub

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    -snippity snippity snip-

    Its all real don't worry :P
     
  14. Bitbyte

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    The kernel hack is the real deal, those images that Xcution posted are of no relevance though. You'll give people the impression that they already have a toolchain in place and are able to program homebrew, which is not the case yet.
     
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  15. the_randomizer

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    Ah, geez, not this again.
     
  16. Shubshub

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    Im just quoting whats been said on the irc so don't be like that
     
  17. Roguezz

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    No, it's because my poll's first option is the hoax thing so he's making fun of that. lol
     
  18. Shubshub

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    don't worry I fixed my post now
     
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    But it's so much fun. Good thing I bought a 3DS...I mean again, but this time with better games. Here's to homebrew on the 3DS!
     
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    Yeah, that's why I thought it was funny.
     
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    Thats great news although that also means spending $60+ for a 3DS Game we will Likely never play just for an Exploit
     
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