3DS Flashcard Rom Incompatibility

Discussion in '3DS - Flashcards & Custom Firmwares' started by Pong20302000, Oct 25, 2013.

  1. Pong20302000
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    Just thought i would create a page for people to see what scene games don't work with the Gateway-3DS

    All releases rested up to: #0618
    We need your help to test new releases.


    Games that Do Not work (R4i Gold 3DS Deluxe 3.0 / 3.1-3.2 (Bricking) / Gateway Firmware 2.0b1 / 2.0B2 (bricking) / MT-Card 1.1):
    270 - Animal.Crossing.New.Leaf.EUR.3DS-CONTRAST
    353 - Tobidase_Doubutsu_no_Mori_JPN_3DS-Kirin
    450 - Pokemon.X.3DS-CONTRAST
    451 - Pokemon.Y.3DS-CONTRAST
    493 - Animal_Crossing_New_Leaf_USA_3DS-ABSTRAKT
    597 - Tomodachi.Collection.Shin.Seikatsu.JPN.3DS-BigBlueBox


    Games that Do Not work (R4i Gold 3DS Deluxe 2.0&3.3b / Gateway Firmware 1.2 / MT-Card 1.0):
    270 - Animal.Crossing.New.Leaf.EUR.3DS-CONTRAST
    353 - Tobidase_Doubutsu_no_Mori_JPN_3DS-Kirin
    409 - Monster_Hunter_4_JPN_3DS-Kirin
    450 - Pokemon.X.3DS-CONTRAST
    451 - Pokemon.Y.3DS-CONTRAST
    468 - Batman.Arkham.Origins.Blackgate.EUR.3DS-CONTRAST
    469 - Hometown_Story_3DS-VENOM
    478 - Ben_10_Omniverse_2_3DS-VENOM
    479 - Monster_High_13_Wishes_3DS-VENOM
    488 - The.Legend.of.Zelda.A.Link.Between.Worlds.EUR.3DS-CONTRAST
    490 - Adventure_Time_Explore_the_Dungeon_Because_I_DONT_KNOW_3DS-VENOM
    492 - Mario_Party_Island_Tour_3DS-VENOM
    493 - Animal_Crossing_New_Leaf_USA_3DS-ABSTRAKT
    494 - The_Legend_of_Zelda_A_Link_Between_Worlds_USA_3DS-ABSTRAKT
    509 - One.Piece.Romance.Dawn.EUR.3DS-BigBlueBox
    539 - Batman_Arkham_Origins_Blackgate_USA_3DS-ABSTRAKT
    550 - Shingeki_no_Kyoujin_-_Jinrui_Saigo_no_Tsubasa_JPN_3DS-Kirin
    578 - Adventure.Time.Explore.the.Dungeon.Because.I.DONT.KNOW.EUR.3DS-BigBlueBox
    597 - Tomodachi.Collection.Shin.Seikatsu.JPN.3DS-BigBlueBox
    601 - Monster_High_13_Wishes_EUR_MULTi10_3DS-ABSTRAKT
    602 - Mario_Party_Island_Tour_EUR_MULTi8_3DS-ABSTRAKT
    673 - Yoshis.New.Island.EUR.3DS-CONTRAST

    Untested (R4i Gold 3DS Deluxe 2.0&3.3b / Gateway Firmware 1.2 / MT-Card 1.0):
    529 - Professor_Layton_und_das_Vermaechtnis_von_Aslant_GER_3DS-ABSTRAKT
    573 - Daigasso_Band_Brothers_P_JPN_3DS-Kirin
    610 - Professeur.Layton.et.Lheritage.des.Aslantes.FRA.3DS-CONTRAST
    614 - Cloudy_with_a_Chance_of_Meatballs_2_3DS-VENOM
    617 - Medarot.Dual.Kabuto.Ver.JPN.3DS-BigBlueBox
    and all games up to latest release.
     
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  2. Rinth

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    Yep. These are being addressed though. Monster Hunter is going to work in 2.0. They are also working on MH4 and X&Y. Heard nothing about Arkham Origins, but that's a really average game so nobody's gonna miss anything.
     
  3. Pong20302000
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    Pong20302000 making notes on everything

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    lol i know, but people always seem to keep asking what games are working so they can just be linked here

    and we cant confirm those games are working, its just what the team have said, yes they are fairly trusted, but let me just get out my Crown3DS...... oh wait

    plus everytime someone says "works on 2.0" all people will ask is "where can i download 2.0"
    so its best to leave it like this until its released
     
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    Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure MH 4 doesn't use a NAND save like ACNL of X/Y do. Nand may be hard to emulate but who knows what their plan of attack is. MH 4 (and probably batman) have some anti-piracy measures built in.
     
  5. Pong20302000
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    CONTRAST Team confirmed in the NFO that Batman has "got a nice AP"
     
  6. Skybz

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    couldn't get fifa 14 (EU) to work, always freeze while initializing save file
     
  7. keubibo

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    I'm downloading fifa 14 3ds :"( omg, so sad
     
  8. robo989

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    <snip>

    MH4 and a very basic anti-piracy protection
    Animal Crossing had NAND based saving

    Those were reasons for not working, and anyone who pays any attention at all on these forums would known that.
     
  9. Armadillo

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    Anyone know if there is something on Sonic lost world preventing a dump? As since it's release, contrast have dumped shovelware (Games Festival 1) & batman ( a game that isn't officially out yet in EU), but Sonic is still undumped.
     
  10. Pong20302000
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    maybe the teams with the dumpers just dont have the cash to spend on a game they dont play?
    havnt heard anything tho about a undumpable game

    i had not heard about Fifa 14 having a save issue
    maybe its just a bad MicroSD flash

    if we get a few people confirming then will add it

    someone can video the error i will submit it to the team to look into
     
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    Aww man, did not know batman was dumped and now to see its an unplayable game..Crap.
    I was looking forward to playing it alongside origins.
    Guess i have to wait till an update from GW, hopefully they solve out the issue with these newer games.

    Anyone got an idea why Blackgate doesnt work? i really doubt it has nand save, but i could be wrong.
    Maybe its some new anti-piracy they're starting to install on all new games. (they learned from the NDS lol)
     
  12. Armadillo

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    Anti-piracy according to nfo.

    "Not a bad pre-retail release! Unfortunately this game also got a nice AP..
    "
     
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    Guessing NAND saves should be a meme.
     
  14. tbgtbg

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    This should be a sticky.
     
  15. Arnold0

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    I download it just for trying, and it work's just fine here (My 3DS is 4.5.0-10E)
     
  16. tHciNc

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    From 3DSGuy
    "BTW, Batman - Arkham Origins Blackgate doesn't have AP, it's just built with SDK 5.X.X. Which introduced a modified NCCH format."
    Pokemon was also built on 5.x.x

    Also, just tested fifa, created profile, played 1 game, exited (home/close) reloaded, game fine, loaded fine to new game
     
  17. unsteadycarrot

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    so does lego marvel superheroes: universe in peril have the same problem? its pretty much the only dumped game not mentioned to be not working
     
  18. johnnywalker

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    What about the new TMNT? :)
     
  19. Armadillo

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    So 2.0 release with 6.X emunand should get it working, if that's all that's wrong.

    I guess if stuff is being built with 5.X now, we are going to see more games not working :(, at least until the 2.0 gateway release comes out.
     
  20. 3DSGuy

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    What CONTRAST is referring to as AP, isn't AP (unless, CONTRAST has decrypted Batman - Arkham Origins Blackgate, reverse engineered the code and found code which tested for GW mode features, which is quite unlikely). What they are referring to as AP, is the fact Gateway v1.2 is unable to play it. Anti Piracy is an intentional software change designed to prevent piracy. The "problem" preventing Batman from launching on a Gateway3DS, predates Gateway3DS's announcement. Nintendo updated the CXI format slightly, moving the logo outside of the encrypted ExeFS section, to between the Extended Header and Plain Region, unencrypted. The update which allowed the 3DS to find the new location of the logo in these new CXI files, predates the announcement of Gateway 3DS.

    If Nintendo was intending to change the location as an AP measure, they would have encrypted the logo in addition to moving it outside of the ExeFS section of the CXI.

    The 'logo' I'm talking about, is the little Nintendo logo displayed on the bottom screen after you launch a 3DS game. On firmwares 4.5.0 and below, the Home Menu expect to only find the logo in ExeFS section of the CXI. Unable to find the logo, it returns an error.

    Other than using the new CXI format, there are no indications in the plaintext sections of the Batman ROM that there is anything special that Gateway3DS would have to account for.
     
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