NGP (PSP2) announced!

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To be honest the device itself is somewhat meaningless now. I think Sony dropped the ball on this one. They're too busy listing off features without actually addressing their most crucial failing. Their current 'front end' software experience all suck.

Nintendo and Sony's competition is the iPhone/iPad/iTouch. They're not competing with each other anymore. People are going to start asking

1) Ok I have an iTouch/iPad, so why do I need another gaming system?
2) Ok I have an iPhone which does games already, why do I need something else that does only games?

And the reality is that devs could make PSP/DS type games on current Apple devices without much issue.

I think the only issue why publishers might not be going too hard core on the Apple stuff is because of the rock bottom pricing required to get cheap users to buy stuff on there. There's just a huge psychological barrier for people using Apple stores now to anything over 99 cents. If that rock bottom pricing structure continues, it might help Nintendo/Sony to survive perhaps one more iteration. But they really need to look at Xbox Live and the iPad/iPhone store and see how the total user experience of not just playing games, but buying them, as well as everything else. Rovio (Angry Birds) isn't on the Android Store because there's no good integration of a payment system within the game itself. They're separate and it's pretty jarring for most users. Users are expecting a lot more integration and easy of use from their experience and will migrate to the defacto standard, Apple, if your device doesn't.
 

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Well well well, Sony has hit an all time low. If you're using media components and trying to disguise it with a 3G/Wifi bonus then epic fail to them. Trying to buy the customers just because it acts like a smartphone is truly the most pathetic excuse of marketing I have ever seen. Sooner or later, it's going to have an update about 3D imagery or install it on the next NGP3D.

The only credit I give to them is that you can play mostly PS1, PS2, and PS3 on there. It will cost you a hefty price!
 

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Now THIS is a handheld/handheld console worthy of a launch day purchase
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QUOTE said:
1) Ok I have an iTouch/iPad, so why do I need another gaming system?
2) Ok I have an iPhone which does games already, why do I need something else that does only games?

Call me crazy but those 2 questions overlap a great deal.

The answer to both is this: Because the iPad/iPhone doesn't play MarioFinalFantasyDisgaeaLaytonAceWrightPokemonScribblenautsZeldaLegoSaGaTalesAdv
nceWars and another dozen or so classic series. Kind of like the PSP, have as nice of a hardware as you want if you don't have the games gamers want...
 

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doyama said:
1) Ok I have an iTouch/iPad, so why do I need another gaming system?
2) Ok I have an iPhone which does games already, why do I need something else that does only games?

1- Ok that was retarded. iStuff aren't gaming systems.
2- Ok try to find at your app store any game at the level of an actual gaming system game.
 

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Leo Cantus said:
ProtoKun7 said:
Design doesn't look bad; whether I choose to get one or not remains to be seen.



Costello said:
that looks really nice. 3G and GPS wow!
what does NGP mean though?

NeoGeoPocket??
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You know, the same thought crossed my mind when I saw that.
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Next Generation Portable
I know what it stands for.
 

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doyama said:
To be honest the device itself is somewhat meaningless now. I think Sony dropped the ball on this one. They're too busy listing off features without actually addressing their most crucial failing. Their current 'front end' software experience all suck.

Nintendo and Sony's competition is the iPhone/iPad/iTouch. They're not competing with each other anymore. People are going to start asking

1) Ok I have an iTouch/iPad, so why do I need another gaming system?
2) Ok I have an iPhone which does games already, why do I need something else that does only games?

And the reality is that devs could make PSP/DS type games on current Apple devices without much issue.

I think the only issue why publishers might not be going too hard core on the Apple stuff is because of the rock bottom pricing required to get cheap users to buy stuff on there. There's just a huge psychological barrier for people using Apple stores now to anything over 99 cents. If that rock bottom pricing structure continues, it might help Nintendo/Sony to survive perhaps one more iteration. But they really need to look at Xbox Live and the iPad/iPhone store and see how the total user experience of not just playing games, but buying them, as well as everything else. Rovio (Angry Birds) isn't on the Android Store because there's no good integration of a payment system within the game itself. They're separate and it's pretty jarring for most users. Users are expecting a lot more integration and easy of use from their experience and will migrate to the defacto standard, Apple, if your device doesn't.

After I saw 'Angry Birds' I just stop carrying about your post. If you're going to argue about something a game that took the same physics of another internet game, they were smart to perfect it, & market the app to Apple instead to the Android Store. Also look at how many times you have to BUY a new itouch/ipad/iphone due to the fact it can't internally update itself, new the features like face-time and better GUI. Most times, Apple users hate to buy another device that's the same exact thing but becomes obselete when the Itunes aren't compatable with them anymore.
 

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I can see myself fumbling with the system trying to use the rear touchpad and dropping it.
Two analog sticks, touchscreen,gyroscope and a rear touchpad is overkill IMO.
Too many control options in that Uncharted tech demo really slowed the pace of the game down.
 

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doyama said:
Nintendo and Sony's competition is the iPhone/iPad/iTouch. They're not competing with each other anymore. People are going to start asking

1) Ok I have an iTouch/iPad, so why do I need another gaming system?
2) Ok I have an iPhone which does games already, why do I need something else that does only games?

And the reality is that devs could make PSP/DS type games on current Apple devices without much issue.
But what about controls? The one thing I can't stand about games on the ipod are touch screen controls. Have you ever tried playing a shooter on the ipod touch? it doesn't work well.

Anyway, this looks really good. As long as the price isn't too high I'll probably get one.
 

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Really interesting~~
However if it will just play PS3 game i am gonna be a bit disappointed, but of course its gonna get exclusives... and hopefully someone will homebrew hack it
 

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Sony said:
Revolutionary gaming experiences with dual analog sticks, front and rear cameras, front multi-touch display, multi-touch rear pad, GPS, SIXAXIS® motion sensors, and three-axis electronic compass.
Stunning multi-touch 5-inch Organic Light Emitting Display (OLED).
Always On connectivity via Wi-Fi and 3G

That thing is 90% horse shit that is not necesary /is uncomfortable for gaming and just makes the price go higher and higher.
 

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I hope games don't milk all these input abilities.
It's nice that they are there but it's not fun to have to use a touch screen, buttons and gyro in one game, hopefully just there for the tech demo(s)
 

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Not impressed, I won't rent this from sony or that is how act when you buy their brand. "You don't Own t". Google is your friend.
 

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ferret7463 said:
Not impressed, I won't rent this from sony or that is how act when you buy their brand. "You don't Own t". Google is your friend.
Where did you hear this? Are all the games DLC and not on carts?

I'm actually pretty surprised by the graphic quality. When I heard "PS3 graphics" I was thinking it was going to be like how the PSP has "PS2 graphics". The pics do tell a different story. The specs look impressive, but raise on important question: How much is this thing going to cost? I mean the 3DS is $250 and its no where near this powerful.

Though I doubt it will happen, I really hope Sony brings this to PAX East. It would be perfect (for me)!!
 

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Ramonra said:
Sony said:
Revolutionary gaming experiences with dual analog sticks, front and rear cameras, front multi-touch display, multi-touch rear pad, GPS, SIXAXIS® motion sensors, and three-axis electronic compass.
Stunning multi-touch 5-inch Organic Light Emitting Display (OLED).
Always On connectivity via Wi-Fi and 3G

That thing is 90% horse shit that is not necesary /is uncomfortable for gaming and just makes the price go higher and higher.

The price is 250-300$ so, i have to agree on that, then again im guesssing the OLED and 3G is impressive, i can see the phone companies starting to reserve these for binding them...
 

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