Hardware need mobo reccomendations. help, please?

[ThoD]

Please don't spread misinformation about ryzen. Ryzen only works on am4 boards with ddr4.

It DOES work with DDR3, I've tested it. It's the 5 ones and above that need DDR4. I updated a AMD APU with a 3 1300X just fine and uses DDR3!

 

[Joe88]

there is no am4 motherboard that supports ddr3, the ryzen platform has no support for it

 

[ThoD]

there is no am4 motherboard that supports ddr3, the ryzen platform has no support for it

You DO realize that AM4 has existed for YEARS now, right? All AMD APUs are AM4 for example and even the OP's motherboard is AM4 and supports DDR3.

EDIT: Did a little check now... Forgot the older APUs with FM2+, so not all, sorry for that. Still, AM4 has existed for about 3 years now and SOME boards support DDR3. Can't find details on OP's CPU socket though, but be it FM2+ or AM4, it can still just be upgraded by replacing the CPU, saving money, was my point. Didn't know it was soldered at the time, so that's out of the question now. OP needs new board and I suggested best one for i5 while allowing future upgrades (eg: i7).

 

[Luckkill4u]

You DO realize that AM4 has existed for YEARS now, right? All AMD APUs are AM4 for example and even the OP's motherboard is AM4 and supports DDR3.

EDIT: Did a little check now... Forgot the older APUs with FM2+, so not all, sorry for that. Still, AM4 has existed for about 3 years now and SOME boards support DDR3. Can't find details on OP's CPU socket though, but be it FM2+ or AM4, it can still just be upgraded by replacing the CPU, saving money, was my point. Didn't know it was soldered at the time, so that's out of the question now. OP needs new board and I suggested best one for i5 while allowing future upgrades (eg: i7).

AM4 came out Sept 4th 2016 for the new AMD APU's and AM4 ONLY supports DDR4.

Personally I think the OP should only salvage the GTX 960 as for the rest of the parts being shit and causing bottlenecks /thread

 

[ThoD]

AM4 came out Sept 4th 2016 for the new AMD APU's and AM4 ONLY supports DDR4.

Personally I think the OP should only salvage the GTX 960 as for the rest of the parts being shit and causing bottlenecks /thread

AM4 has been out since the second generation of A8-12 APUs came out, which was actually December of 2015. Anyway, since the CPU is soldered, there's no point bothering with it... Now, I agree with this, but perhaps he could keep the GTX 960 (which even now is well more than decent) and sell everything else, to get a bigger budget and make a new build. Even with i5, DDR3 won't cut it, it's will hold it back. Also, let's not forget that since DDR3 is almost discontinued, the prices are just as high as those of DDR4, so it's not exactly a good idea to keep the old ones.

@Darthlink9 If you decide to just make a new build, you might want to just go around where you live and check out if there are any yard sales or something similar, since you can find ancient, broken desktops for just 2-5$ and that will save you a LOT on the case and perhaps even PSU! All you have to do is take it apart, clean it, throw away anything you won't be using while keeping what you will use. That way with a 500$ build you can easily fit anything you could ask for or even more if you sell your old system.

 

[RattletraPM]

AM4 has been out since the second generation of A8-12 APUs came out, which was actually December of 2015. Anyway, since the CPU is soldered, there's no point bothering with it... Now, I agree with this, but perhaps he could keep the GTX 960 (which even now is well more than decent) and sell everything else, to get a bigger budget and make a new build. Even with i5, DDR3 won't cut it, it's will hold it back. Also, let's not forget that since DDR3 is almost discontinued, the prices are just as high as those of DDR4, so it's not exactly a good idea to keep the old ones.

@Darthlink9 If you decide to just make a new build, you might want to just go around where you live and check out if there are any yard sales or something similar, since you can find ancient, broken desktops for just 2-5$ and that will save you a LOT on the case and perhaps even PSU! All you have to do is take it apart, clean it, throw away anything you won't be using while keeping what you will use. That way with a 500$ build you can easily fit anything you could ask for or even more if you sell your old system.

I pretty much agree with everything on here except for the PSU. I really wouldn't trust an old one, especially if it has been taken out of an old low-end or office computer and you're putting it in a gaming rig. Cheap capacitors, crappy 12V rails, low efficiency... there's a lot that can go wrong, and don't even think for a second about overclocking if you're into it. You might spend a bit more to get a brand new and decent one, but in the end it'll save you a lot of headaches

 

[ThoD]

I pretty much agree with everything on here except for the PSU. I really wouldn't trust an old one, especially if it has been taken out of an old low-end or office computer and you're putting it in a gaming rig. Cheap capacitors, crappy 12V rails, low efficiency... there's a lot that can go wrong, and don't even think for a second about overclocking if you're into it. You might spend a bit more to get a brand new and decent one, but in the end it'll save you a lot of headaches

At least temporarily it should be fine as long as it's a model that has safety for power surges or spikes. But yeah, if OP can afford a new good one, he should go for it! Even with 40$ you can find some average 80+bronze ones, which aren't half bad for general usage. Also, old PSUs still work fine in new computers, even gaming ones, there's nothing wrong with them, but they may be short 50 watts or so perhaps if they are too old. Most PSUs back in the day used to be at about 350 watts which is the average today too after the 700 watt era.

 

[Luckkill4u]

AM4 has been out since the second generation of A8-12 APUs came out, which was actually December of 2015. Anyway, since the CPU is soldered, there's no point bothering with it... Now, I agree with this, but perhaps he could keep the GTX 960 (which even now is well more than decent) and sell everything else, to get a bigger budget and make a new build. Even with i5, DDR3 won't cut it, it's will hold it back. Also, let's not forget that since DDR3 is almost discontinued, the prices are just as high as those of DDR4, so it's not exactly a good idea to keep the old ones.

Ugh your wrong beyond all levels... AM4 was released with SEVENTH generation Bristol Ridge APU's not second generation.
"Socket AM4, also known as PGA 1331, is a microprocessor socket used by AMD's central processing units (CPUs) built on the Zen and Excavator microarchitectures.[1][2] AM4 was launched on September 5, 2016, with the release of Bristol Ridge APU's." - Wikipedia
The mobile soldered socket is called FP4 and only that supports DDR3 and DDR4 but since this thread is about desktop computers this info is pretty much useless to this thread.

 

[ThoD]

Ugh your wrong beyond all levels... AM4 was released with SEVENTH generation Bristol Ridge APU's not second generation.
"Socket AM4, also known as PGA 1331, is a microprocessor socket used by AMD's central processing units (CPUs) built on the Zen and Excavator microarchitectures.[1][2] AM4 was launched on September 5, 2016, with the release of Bristol Ridge APU's." - Wikipedia
The mobile soldered socket is called FP4 and only that supports DDR3 and DDR4 but since this thread is about desktop computers this info is pretty much useless to this thread.

The "launch dates" on sites like wikipedia list the dates of when the parts were available to the general public as individual parts. Companies were able to get said parts earlier for use in prebuilds in order to have stocks ready. It always works like that, I wasn't talking about general public, I was talking about when it was available to such companies. Basically they were being stocked starting from December 2015. I worked at such a company at a time and we got them in stock on January 2 for example, but you can't sell them until the manufacturer gives you the "ok". And A8 APUs and above use AM4, while also supporting either DDR3 and DDR4 (with few models supporting both). Anyway, since the OP wants to go with Intel i5 (the 5 stands for how many features are locked to force you to buy more expensive models), he should look into the motherboard I suggested in my first post if he wants to keep most of the parts. Otherwise, if he goes with my suggestion to get a 2-5$ used PC to salvage things like PCI cards, case, etc., then he might want to go with a Ryzen with a brand new build and sell the current one...

 

[Joe88]

4690k/4770k with a Z87 board should get a decent amount of mileage

 

[AtomSmasherMazionga]

I actually bought A server Mobo a bit ago, on my way home from work. $10? it was A steal I couldn't say no to. ...unfortunately, there are no components left on the board except for two Xeon Cpu's I can't find the number of, and thus Can't find the model. they both say something about '01, but I have literally nothing else to go on.

 

[RattletraPM]

I actually bought A server Mobo a bit ago, on my way home from work. $10? it was A steal I couldn't say no to. ...unfortunately, there are no components left on the board except for two Xeon Cpu's I can't find the number of, and thus Can't find the model. they both say something about '01, but I have literally nothing else to go on.

If it said '01 then that sounds way too old.. can you post pics of the mobo and CPU to help us identify them?

 

[Joe88]

2001 manufactured, thats why it was $10

 

[TheDarkGreninja]

I don't know why everyone is trying to disprove @ThoD, when they literally said that their AM4 mobo had DDR3 support, isn't that proof enough?

On a second note, 2001 CPUs are far too old.

 

[Joe88]

I don't know why everyone is trying to disprove ThoD, when they literally said that their AM4 mobo had DDR3 support, isn't that proof enough?

Proof of what?
There is no AM4 board on the market that accepts DDR3

 

[ThoD]

Proof of what?
There is no AM4 board on the market that accepts DDR3

Currently no, but when they first came out there were about 20 models that did. However, these have long been discontinued.

 

[TheDarkGreninja]

Proof of what?
There is no AM4 board on the market that accepts DDR3

Proof that at one point AM4 supported DDR3, unless you're suggesting their board is some sort of miracle board.

 

[jDSX]

Proof that at one point AM4 supported DDR3, unless you're suggesting their board is some sort of miracle board.

Which motherboards? Name me one vendor that used DDR3 with ryzen AM4 socket

 

[ThoD]

Which motherboards? Name me one vendor that used DDR3 with ryzen AM4 socket

Don't know about vendors, but AMD has 2 on their own web store when AM4 first came out for the public. I think it was one EVGA and one Gigabyte... They have long since been discontinued just like every board with DDR3 though. There is no DDR3 motherboard still in production, they are all sold from stocked units.

 

[TheDarkGreninja]

Which motherboards? Name me one vendor that used DDR3 with ryzen AM4 socket

I don't know why you're asking me for the information.