Homebrew moonshell = overrated

[Toni Plutonij]

I can't understand this thread at all?!?!

I use Moonshell almost EVERY DAY!! Actually, I use Sakura, but it's the same thing, because Sakura is M3 Real's GUI with implemented Moonshell (and improved), and it's coded by Moonilight, the guy that coded Moonshell!

I watch movies a lot on NDS, I have 200-300 (and more) movies encoded in DPG format! I usually connect my NDS to some amplifier when we don't have any music sources because it's good enough! And I've read the whole last Harry Potter book on my NDS with MoonShell, so you have no idea how you're wrong!

Moonshell allowed all of us NDS users to do with our handhelds the same things that PSP can..
I really see no reason to call it overrated, just because you don't use it, doesn't mean that BUNCH of other people uses it!!

 

[darnoc]

I can't understand this thread at all?!?!

I use Moonshell almost EVERY DAY!! Actually, I use Sakura, but it's the same thing, because Sakura is M3 Real's GUI with implemented Moonshell (and improved), and it's coded by Moonilight, the guy that coded Moonshell!

I watch movies a lot on NDS, I have 200-300 (and more) movies encoded in DPG format! I usually connect my NDS to some amplifier when we don't have any music sources because it's good enough! And I've read the whole last Harry Potter book on my NDS with MoonShell, so you have no idea how you're wrong!

Moonshell allowed all of us NDS users to do with our handhelds the same things that PSP can..
I really see no reason to call it overrated, just because you don't use it, doesn't mean that BUNCH of other people uses it!!

are movies like a few 100 megabits?

 

[Toni Plutonij]

are movies like a few 100 megabits?

Nope, few hundreds megabytes, there is difference..
Mine movies usually have 250-400 MB (per movie)..

Is that a problem, it's not like I have them all on my cart

I have few movies with me at any time, usually 5-10 movies..

 

[Law]

are movies like a few 100 megabits?

Nope, few hundreds megabytes, there is difference..
Mine movies usually have 250-400 MB (per movie)..

Is that a problem, it's not like I have them all on my cart

I have few movies with me at any time, usually 5-10 movies..

Can you tell me the length of those?

Doesn't sound like that good of an encoding if that's the filesize it gives out for such low resolution video :/.

In the past I've actually had terrible desync issues with it, too.

 

[Toni Plutonij]

Can you tell me the length of those?

Doesn't sound like that good of an encoding if that's the filesize it gives out for such low resolution video :/.

In the past I've actually had terrible desync issues with it, too.

Movies vary from 1:30h to 2:00h (or a bit more)

They are all highly-quality encoded, and so far, none of them have any sync issues!

I managed to find right balance that fits me, all videos are really good quality (with great picture)..

I also have downloaded Lord of The Rings trilogy..every movie is split in two parts, and one movie has around 700 MB!!

 

[da_head]

I like moonshell so far, why should I carry on me an Ipod and the ds when I can just use the ds to play games and listen to music, thats the way I look at it

music quality is pretty bad and you can listen to music and play your ds

i think u need better headphones. i find the music quality from moonshell to be damn near perfect.

 

[Law]

I like moonshell so far, why should I carry on me an Ipod and the ds when I can just use the ds to play games and listen to music, thats the way I look at it

music quality is pretty bad and you can listen to music and play your ds

i think u need better headphones. i find the music quality from moonshell to be damn near perfect.

Only bad headphones don't let you hear the quality. Nowhere near perfect.

Although you might just might not have heard what is perfect yet, so if Moonshell is the best you've ever heard get yourself a pair of Sennheisers, hit up Winamp with a DFX plugin.

QUOTE(Toni Plutonij @ Jan 7 2009, 09:18 PM)

They are all highly-quality encoded, and so far, none of them have any sync issues!

I managed to find right balance that fits me, all videos are really good quality (with great picture)..

I also have downloaded Lord of The Rings trilogy..every movie is split in two parts, and one movie has around 700 MB!!

Sounds good, I didn't try messing with the encoding options much when I was trying it out, or maybe it was just because it was an incredibly old version of Moonshell from when I first got my R4.



Oh and btw I'm not saying moonshell is overrated, I'm just saying it's far from perfect. It's damn decent at what it does, but it certainly doesn't beat everything else hands down like a lot of people seem to think.

 

[da_head]

Only bad headphones don't let you hear the quality. Nowhere near perfect.

Although you might just might not have heard what is perfect yet, so if Moonshell is the best you've ever heard get yourself a pair of Sennheisers, hit up Winamp with a DFX plugin.

well i had an ipod, so no, listening to a ds hasn't been my only source of music...
except for the lack of bass, i find it pretty good..

but i'll check out ur winamp/dfx suggestion.

 

[Toni Plutonij]

I did mess with encoding a lot, but newer versions of Moonshell brought DPG upgrades, so BatchDPG had some options for better encoding..

As I said, I managed to balance it out, files aren't too big, but movies are really perfect..

 

[spleenandpie]

before i got an ipod i used it all the time on flights to watch movies

 

[Law]

Only bad headphones don't let you hear the quality. Nowhere near perfect.

Although you might just might not have heard what is perfect yet, so if Moonshell is the best you've ever heard get yourself a pair of Sennheisers, hit up Winamp with a DFX plugin.

well i had an ipod, so no, listening to a ds hasn't been my only source of music...
except for the lack of bass, i find it pretty good..

but i'll check out ur winamp/dfx suggestion.

You'll have to Arrr DFX and it takes a bit of tweeking (Pre-set options are okay, though). Really enhances the audio quality of a lot of music though.

 

[da_head]

Only bad headphones don't let you hear the quality. Nowhere near perfect.

Although you might just might not have heard what is perfect yet, so if Moonshell is the best you've ever heard get yourself a pair of Sennheisers, hit up Winamp with a DFX plugin.

well i had an ipod, so no, listening to a ds hasn't been my only source of music...
except for the lack of bass, i find it pretty good..

but i'll check out ur winamp/dfx suggestion.

You'll have to Arrr DFX and it takes a bit of tweeking (Pre-set options are okay, though). Really enhances the audio quality of a lot of music though.

you have to arr it?
so it's not this? http://www.winamp.com/plugins/details/221660

 

[Law]

Only bad headphones don't let you hear the quality. Nowhere near perfect.

Although you might just might not have heard what is perfect yet, so if Moonshell is the best you've ever heard get yourself a pair of Sennheisers, hit up Winamp with a DFX plugin.

well i had an ipod, so no, listening to a ds hasn't been my only source of music...
except for the lack of bass, i find it pretty good..

but i'll check out ur winamp/dfx suggestion.

You'll have to Arrr DFX and it takes a bit of tweeking (Pre-set options are okay, though). Really enhances the audio quality of a lot of music though.

you have to arr it?
so it's not this? http://www.winamp.com/plugins/details/221660

It's not the full version.

 

[da_head]

Only bad headphones don't let you hear the quality. Nowhere near perfect.

Although you might just might not have heard what is perfect yet, so if Moonshell is the best you've ever heard get yourself a pair of Sennheisers, hit up Winamp with a DFX plugin.

well i had an ipod, so no, listening to a ds hasn't been my only source of music...
except for the lack of bass, i find it pretty good..

but i'll check out ur winamp/dfx suggestion.

You'll have to Arrr DFX and it takes a bit of tweeking (Pre-set options are okay, though). Really enhances the audio quality of a lot of music though.

you have to arr it?
so it's not this? http://www.winamp.com/plugins/details/221660

It's not the full version.

ahh ok. *goes to find full version*

 

[BakuFunn]

The quality is also affected by the encoding used, and MP3 is not that good on quality.
Try playing music straight off the CD, or download a 256 Kbit rate track.

Those headphones you recommend to try out the quality of music will make a huge hole in his wallet.

Get an affordable pair, like maybe some v-moda ones.
(The bass v-modas are affordable and have above average bass)
Or unless you were just stressing how music can get so perfect with the right setup.


Also, a question. Why does moonshell not play my AAC's?

 

[da_head]

@law: are there any specific settings you recommend for me to set for dfx/winamp?

 

[seren]

I don't think moonshell is overrated and I can see people actually using it. But let's face it, multimedia playback on the DS is quite pathetic.

Audio quality on the DS doesn't even compare to a decent mp3 player. If you don't care about audio quality and just want to listen to music it's fine. The DS has a small and terrible LCD so video playback is poor also. The DS is a nice portable gaming unit, let's just leave it at that?

 

[Another World]

the issue is with the speakers not the ability to playback a properly encoded mp3. my vbr mp3s sound the same on my mp3 player, computer (with bose speakers), and on my nds when i output the audio in my car. also i recently took a trip and watched a dpg movie on the plane. if you remaster the source before encoding you can limit the amount of dithering caused by the lossy dpg format. i've been able to get upwards of 22fps in wide screen using a remastered (both video and audio) source. quality is wonderful for my nds, i don't expect a 1080i picture quality and neither should anyone else.

-another world

 

[GameSoul]

The sound quality worsens around 150% or so sound in moonshell. Is it supposed to be better with good headphones?

 

[da_head]

The sound quality worsens around 150% or so sound in moonshell. Is it supposed to be better with good headphones?

i don't think so. i usually keep mine at 140% ish