Mojang "Boycotting" E3

[Foxi4]

Mojang's too indie for E3. I mean, they became a multi-million dollar franchise within a few years, what possible interest could they have in the largest electronics convention to date? Bah!

 

[Deleted User]

The company supported it originally, and they're against that, morally.

I mean I'm going to go all metaphor on this and I know people hate that, but... Imagine if your girlfriend were to stat talking about how much she wants to fuck other guys, then when she saw it really upset you she stopped talking about it. Just because she stopped talking about it doesn't mean the want is gone.

Wow, way to be specific.

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[Guild McCommunist]

Does e3 have a bland sandbox section?

It's called the Bethesda conference.

Just kidding, I've pretty much enjoyed every recent Bethesda sandbox game outside of Oblivion.

It's still a matter of Mojang running their own conference where they're not clearly overshadowed by the biggest names in gaming. At MineCon the only thing there is Mojang. At E3 they're competing with Microsoft, Sony, Nintendo, Ubisoft, Activision, Valve, the biggest names in gaming. Minecraft is popular but it's not Microsoft/Sony/Nintendo/Ubisoft/Activision/Valve popular.

 

[Gahars]

But without Mojang, E3 will be worthless! I'll only have announcements from developers I care about! Oh the humanity!

Seriously, though, I can't see this making any sort of impact. Besides, you know what they say: Nojang, No problems.

 

[Wintrale]

Right, because it costs them nothing to continue to offer updates and content. Nothing to offer hosting service. Nothing for ongoing support. How dare they try and generate some money to cover their costs, and maybe be able to eat and support their families. THOSE BASTARDS.

I will boycott Mojang immediately.

Oh dear, stop taking things so seriously.

I was merely doing what everyone else does. When people see on-disc DLC, day one DLC or DLC of any kind, they have a penchant for going off on a tirade about how they've already paid for the game once so they shouldn't have to pay anything more to get the complete game. Since all Mojang is doing is essentially charging early adopters more money over time, it's no different to what the evil corporate publishers do all the time. Just because Mojang is an indie developer, they're not getting let off the hook.

 

[Rydian]

I'd hold off on chiding them until they actually do something, though. They often have plans that lack substance and never get off the ground (issues in implementation, conflicts with other plans, blah blah blah).

 

[HamburgerBandit]

I don't even see the need for E3 anymore. Everyone has their own events. E3 is redundant.

Don't give a shit about Mojang either.

 

[Forstride]

At MineCon the only thing there is Mojang.

Actually, there were a lot of indie devs at Minecon.

 

[The Milkman]

Wow. Mojang thinks they matter enough as a company to actually go to E3? I thought they made Minecin because E3 wouldnt let them in. I mean ONE GAME. They made ONE Game. AND ITS NOT EVEN FINISHED. Hell, this update were JUST getting the fucking writible books. Such bullshit. Plus, the other game companies had a REASON to follow SOPA. Hell, I didn't like SOPA but if I was Ninty or Sony I would support the crap out of something that would completly wipe out wide spread piracy. Mojang didn't only because Minecraft is making so much fucking money for such a low cost. So much in fact that they even SUPPORT a site that runs the games Java script so you can play it for free. They let one stupid over hyped indie go to their heads.

 

[Rydian]

I mean ONE GAME. They made ONE Game.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mojang
They've made multiple and are also publisher for Cobalt.

AND ITS NOT EVEN FINISHED. Hell, this update were JUST getting the fucking writible books. Such bullshit.

So having writable books is a requirement for a game being finished? Well there goes 99% of games.

Or is it that any game that gets updates after 1.0 isn't finished? Well there goes skyrim, borderlands, etc.

Plus, the other game companies had a REASON to follow SOPA. Hell, I didn't like SOPA but if I was Ninty or Sony I would support the crap out of something that would completly wipe out wide spread piracy.

Oh, just like the DMCA and other acts before it that actually passed?

And let's not forget about concepts in general, such as the rise of DRM and encryption. We all know those have killed piracy, right?

So much in fact that they even SUPPORT a site that runs the games Java script so you can play it for free.

What? They stopped it.
Notch was all "hey dude stop it" and the dude stopped.

They let one stupid over hyped indie go to their heads.

The first official con they did got 4,500 attendees.
There's multi-year furry cons that don't get half of that.

So I don't think it's all in their head.
Minecraft's a popular game, whether you like it or not.

 

[The Milkman]

I mean ONE GAME. They made ONE Game.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mojang
They've made multiple and are also publisher for Cobalt.

Ok, allow me to litterate, They "Finished" one game.

AND ITS NOT EVEN FINISHED. Hell, this update were JUST getting the fucking writible books. Such bullshit.

So having writable books is a requirement for a game being finished? Well there goes 99% of games.

Or is it that any game that gets updates after 1.0 isn't finished? Well there goes skyrim, borderlands, etc.

No. The fact of the matter is, they still have loads of incomplete features that were promised way before they released the Adventure Update and supposedly "finished" the game, writable books have been promised since alpha, it shouldnt take almost a year to put in ONE feature that, what 5? 5 mods have already done. Atleast when Skyrim and borderlands updates it either adds complete content to a game, or it fixes bugs. Minecraft manages to add bug patches after they add minor features and even with the couple of bug fixes we have had since the Adventure Update, we still have the damn lighting bug for chests and signs.

Plus, the other game companies had a REASON to follow SOPA. Hell, I didn't like SOPA but if I was Ninty or Sony I would support the crap out of something that would completly wipe out wide spread piracy.

Oh, just like the DMCA and other acts before it that actually passed?

And let's not forget about concepts in general, such as the rise of DRM and encryption. We all know those have killed piracy, right?

Ok, you got me there, but still, its a poor excuse. They act like a greedy corprate isnt supposed to support those kinds of laws.

So much in fact that they even SUPPORT a site that runs the games Java script so you can play it for free.

What? They stopped it.
Notch was all "hey dude stop it" and the dude stopped.

eh, that was a weak point on my part, I didnt know the site was shut down.
Oh, was that what that quake match they did with them about?

They let one stupid over hyped indie go to their heads.

The first official con they did got 4,500 attendees.
There's multi-year furry cons that don't get half of that.

That completly supports my point. Its a OVER-HYPED indie game.

So I don't think it's all in their head.
Minecraft's a popular game, whether you like it or not.

>>Implying that I didnt say it was popular.

Its not that Minecraft isnt a good indie game. I have played MUCH worse. But its not THAT good. Sometimes I hear fans talking about it like its the fucking Second Coming. And it would seem the devs have began to think they have done something much bigger then it is, I dont care what anyone says about Mojang. Minecraft has potenial, but its a game thats far from finished. When they can add decent mod support, all the features they promised, and find a way to update the game with small features without adding 22 bugs then its a finished game. When they actually FINISH a game, then they can talk about playing with the big boys.

 

[Rydian]

Many graphical glitches (such as the lighting ones) are from using intel IGPs. This is not abnormal. Other retail games (such as Crysis and such) show the same types of issues (missing shadows, incorrect lighting calculations, etc.) or refuse to run at all on many intel IGPs.

Many multiplayer issues will be fixed in the future, in fact they have a test version with an overhauled multplayer setup available right now.
http://www.mojang.com/2012/05/minecraft-snapshot-12w18a/

As for better mod support, it's in development as well.
In fact they've literally hired people from the Bukkit dev team to work on it.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-02-29-mojang-hires-bukkit-server-mod-team-to-make-official-minecraft-api

As for not having all promised features, many games are guilty of that, the Fable series being one of particular note.
One reason MC gets so much flak for it, however, is overzealous fans. A mention of "I might" by a dev in twitter does not equate to a promise. That's where many people go wrong. They see a dev mention the possibility of something and then assume that's some sort of promise.

 

[Guild McCommunist]

As for not having all promised features, many games are guilty of that, the Fable series being one of particular note.

Peter Molyneux is also the M. Night Shaymalan of gaming. At one point he made good games then he just thought he was too deep and artsy. Now he's busy making The Last Airbender Fable: The Journey.

 

[HamburgerBandit]

As for not having all promised features, many games are guilty of that, the Fable series being one of particular note.

Peter Molyneux is also the M. Night Shaymalan of gaming. At one point he made good games then he just thought he was too deep and artsy. Now he's busy making The Last Airbender Fable: The Journey.

M. Night Shaymalan never made any good movies. I like the 6th Sense better when it was called Jacob's Ladder.

 

[Traversal]

I think the whole problem with the statement is that it even exists.

I mean, if you're not going to be at E3, then don't mention it. At least just make a simple statement. Making up this silly excuse about E3 and SOPA (Which was shot down like what? Months ago?) is just silly and is going to get you in much worse then a bunch of silly fanboys complaining why Mojang isn't at E3, which is probably what would've happened if they'd just said nothing at all.

 

[Guild McCommunist]

M. Night Shaymalan never made any good movies. I like the 6th Sense better when it was called Jacob's Ladder.

Unbreakable was pretty cool.

The Happening was also a great comedy film, fun for the whole family.

All I know is that I picked up Fable II hearing good reviews and it was ass. I hear Fable was good and there's of course like Black and White and Syndicate but his comments have come off recently as "I'm Shingeru Miyamoto but artsy!" when his 'achievements' have since been overshadowed by great innovators in the industry.

 

[Rydian]

I think the whole problem with the statement is that it even exists.

I mean, if you're not going to be at E3, then don't mention it.

Here's how an interview works.

1 - Some sort of news media (paper, online site, whatever) sends in a request to do an interview.
2 - If the subject of the interview (person, company, whatever) agrees, then they have a meeting with a representative of the news media.
3 - An interview is generally composed of a Q&A session, where the news media asks questions that they think the public in general (or a specific subset) wants answers to, so they can report the information and be sure it's correct since it's from an original source. In this case, the question at hand was asked.

Making up this silly excuse about E3 and SOPA (Which was shot down like what? Months ago?)

Great job on reading the thread. *golf clap*

EDIT: Removed redundancy.

 

[mthrnite]

I fucking love me some Minecraft. That's fo sho!

Also, a booth at E3 isn't free. I know, I know.. "NOTCH HAS MORE MONEY THAN GOD!" blah blah blah

Also, I download the newest (free) snapshot every week, I hope they never finish the game. Finished games suck, they get old, and you buy Finished Game 2 the next year for the same price because it has "new maps".

Minecraft: the best 20 bucks I ever spent.

 

[Rydian]

I have to agree with unfinished games being awesome as long as they have updates. I mean look at the Terraria train and how it died when it was announced that 1.2 was the last big update... especially since the MC updates are free, they're not paid DLC.

 

[ZAFDeltaForce]

I fucking love me some Minecraft. That's fo sho!

Also, a booth at E3 isn't free. I know, I know.. "NOTCH HAS MORE MONEY THAN GOD!" blah blah blah

Also, I download the newest (free) snapshot every week, I hope they never finish the game. Finished games suck, they get old, and you buy Finished Game 2 the next year for the same price because it has "new maps".

Minecraft: the best 20 bucks I ever spent.

Terraria...

Oh God why

Looks like it's time for me to jump into Minecraft. Better late than never