Hardware Mig Switch on Switch 2

[RCJayce]

Yep, noticed it... but just don't get your hopes too high: there is a big difference between the black and red cartridges: capacity. While the black ones only have up to 32GB the red ones have 64GB space, so if it's a cartridge using more than 32GB, it might also depend on how the cartridge works if that's an issue or not.

I tried searching information about the S2 cartridges, specifically the ones that contain both S1 and S2 versions of the same game... there is a possibility that the MIG could run S2 games, maybe Nintendo is using the same Lotus3 key on S2 carts?

 

[PatrickD85]

Neat, just updated and dumped my game
Thanks again to all for the discussion and efforts, alsways appreciated.

PS: I wonder if that was an intentional tease

 

[jasapolis]

Local update of Metroid Prime 4 from s1 stock 21.1.0 to s2 21.1.0 throws an error.
Therefore, if you want to update Metroid Prime 4, you can do it on s1 fw18.1.0.
However, when using the cartridge dump, it won’t let you see it because it will ask to update the firmware.
To skip the horrible step of installing 25 GB just to send the update, you can do the following:
• Use NxFileViewer to extract the cnmt.nca from Metroid XCI.
• Create empty NCA files for program, control, and manual.
• Build the NSP with hacpack GUI, which results in a corrupt NSP.
• Install it with Sphaira full RAM, you’ll get a corrupt gray icon in the menu.
• Installing the update will then change the icon to Metroid, with the match version option enabled, allowing you to send the update from s1 fw18.1.0 to s2 fw21.1.0 without installing the 25 GB.

 

[xadra]

I don't have a Mig card and I never will. I know close to nothing about this, so please disregard this comment if it is too dumb.

But my belief is that Mig cards will hardly work with Switch 2 games. They have nothing to go by, and Nintendo, knowing this before hand the release of SW2, would have patched any entry point.

Seems more like the Mig team throwing a bone to try to keep themselves on the radar for potential buyers.

 

[chubbysquid]

But my belief is that Mig cards will hardly work with Switch 2 games. They have nothing to go by, and Nintendo, knowing this before hand the release of SW2, would have patched any entry point.

Seems more like the Mig team throwing a bone to try to keep themselves on the radar for potential buyers.

I'm currently using a Mig on my Switch 2. It serves a purpose; allowing me to keep my entire legitimate Switch 1 collection in one place and switch between games effortlessly without having to swap out cartridges. That makes it worth the $65 investment to me.
Switch 2 game support may come soon, we never know. It might just be as simple as a firmware update, or it may never come. Who knows, it doesn't really matter. Switch 2 piracy isn't a thing at the moment. That's not the reason why people are buying Migs.

 

[dolpf]

Switch 2 piracy isn't a thing at the moment.

You're wrong. It's very common. Maybe not in America, but definitely in Eurasia.

That's not the reason why people are buying Migs.

You can convince yourself and others of this endlessly, but 99% of people buy MIGs solely for piracy. And given that the Switch 2 currently only allows piracy through MIG, its popularity is constantly growing, despite bans and the fierce hatred of Nintendo and MIG haters.

 

[BigOnYa]

You're wrong.

I'm sure they meant Switch 2 games specifically, since they are yet to be dumped.

 

[aos10]

You're wrong. It's very common. Maybe not in America, but definitely in Eurasia.


You can convince yourself and others of this endlessly, but 99% of people buy MIGs solely for piracy. And given that the Switch 2 currently only allows piracy through MIG, its popularity is constantly growing, despite bans and the fierce hatred of Nintendo and MIG haters.

buying mig for $500 switch 2 just to play pirated switch 1 games is a good idea to convert the switch 2 into a brick.
why would someone do that? i'll just use it on switch 1 better.

 

[dolpf]

buying mig for $500 switch 2 just to play pirated switch 1 games is a good idea to convert the switch 2 into a brick.
why would someone do that? i'll just use it on switch 1 better.

What doesn't suit you doesn't mean it's not suitable for everyone.
Don't count other people's money. Everyone chooses how and on what they play.
A banned Switch 2 is only useless to licensees. For pirates, it's a perfectly functional console.

 

[chubbysquid]

You're wrong. It's very common. Maybe not in America, but definitely in Eurasia.

Switch 2 game piracy doesn't exist yet. You don't know what you're talking about.

buying mig for $500 switch 2 just to play pirated switch 1 games is a good idea to convert the switch 2 into a brick.
why would someone do that? i'll just use it on switch 1 better.

Myself (and a lot of other people in this thread) use our Mig on the Switch 2 to play our own legitimate Switch 1 game backups.
You only get banned/bricked for playing public ROMs from torrent sites with blacklisted certificates.

 

[Drakull]

I think all of you have some part of truth and some part of pre-conceived ideas:
1) Switch 2 is used with piracy to the point that you use pirate copies of switch 1 games. Of course, there isn't (yet) a way to copy/use switch 2 exclusive games. But piracy per-se is the use of illegal copies, right? So technically there is piracy done in the switch 2.

2) Not 99% of the mig users use it for piracy. I have to agree that the percent is probably high (based on what I read in different places), but I would say more like in the 80%. There are still quite a good number of users that use it for what we would consider "legal uses":
a) Use their own dumps across multiples consoles. Example: you buy 1 game and want your kids to use it without fighting on who's turn is now). Or yourself using the game without having to swap the cartridge from one console to another.
b) As a way to preserve the original cartridges (specially if you are a collector you want to preserve them).
c) To travel light (no better way than 1 cartridge instead of 10-20) specially if you consider you can lose games on your trip.
d) Damaged cartridge replacement: if you have a dump of your cartridge, and the original gets damaged, you can still play your legally owned game without buying it again.

All quite valid uses, is also true that a vast number of the users prefer to use downloaded games (banned devices will not be a deterrent since for the money they save in the games, the device itself becomes "cheap").

3) About the switch 2 used with switch 1 games: of course a lot of people use the switch 2 with switch 1 games. A lot of switch 1 games run better on a switch 2 (even if it's the same game) and some even have upgrade packs that make them a nicer version (quite a few for free), so yes, there are people using the mig with switch 1 games in the switch 2 (both, people using legal and people using pirated games). Why risking a switch 2? Well... if they were to buy a switch 1 they wouldn't be able to also play switch 2 games if they so desired. The price difference of a new switch 2 vs a new switch 1 is not that great, so if you are not planning on getting the chip in the console and you are going to use the mig for pirated games, we are talking about a less than $100 difference for a machine more powerful... so yes, some people will use the downloaded copies just because they don't want a second device and like I said before, if you consider the price of the games vs the price of the hardware, when you talk about a good number of games the hardware is not that much .

 

[aos10]

What doesn't suit you doesn't mean it's not suitable for everyone.
Don't count other people's money. Everyone chooses how and on what they play.
A banned Switch 2 is only useless to licensees. For pirates, it's a perfectly functional console.

It's useless because you won't get the updates for switch 2 version because it get banned, so the switch 2 will become overpriced switch 1, what the point of switch 2 that can't even get updates to play real switch 2 games, many s2 games are blocked in new fw.

Switch 2 game piracy doesn't exist yet. You don't know what you're talking about.


Myself (and a lot of other people in this thread) use our Mig on the Switch 2 to play our own legitimate Switch 1 game backups.
You only get banned/bricked for playing public ROMs from torrent sites with blacklisted certificates.

I know, that's why i said "pirated" not "legitimated" games will get you banned.

 

[Drakull]

It's useless because you won't get the updates for switch 2 version because it get banned, so the switch 2 will become overpriced switch 1, what the point of switch 2 that can't even get updates to play real switch 2 games, many s2 games are blocked in new fw.

Nah, I think you are missing quite the point on how it actually works:
1) A person who won't even pay for switch 1 games, who is telling you would pay for switch 2 games? (it's like the companies counting their losses by the number of downloads times the price... when in reality a lot of people download the games "just because they are there" not because they would play them, and wouldn't even buy them if they couldn't download them).
2) Updates can still be done from a different console.
3) Yes, is more expensive than a switch 1, but if you don't have neither the sw1 or the sw2, buying the sw2 gives you a better performance machine for less than $100 more.
4) There is people even having multiple sw2 consoles and using pirated games without ban: one used just to connect to the internet and download the updates (not running any game on it, just inserting the cartridge and download the updates) and the other one where they play being offline and getting the updates from the first one....
5) You can still download the different upgrade dlc's/content/updates for S2 before using a single game on the mig... and you can still play sw2 games on a cartridge.

 

[aos10]

5) You can still download the different upgrade dlc's/content/updates for S2 before using a single game on the mig... and you can still play sw2 games on a cartridge.

huh? you sure about that?
i know you can using another switch and download the update using local wifi, but the DLC is another thing, also Sw2 version upgrade also another thing and can't be done like that.
and once you banned, you can't update the switch 2 from internet (as far as i know, did nintendo changed that?)
also, a lot of switch 2 games need small update to works (not even counting GKC)

 

[Drakull]

huh? you sure about that?
i know you can using another switch and download the update using local wifi, but the DLC is another thing, also Sw2 version upgrade also another thing and can't be done like that.
and once you banned, you can't update the switch 2 from internet (as far as i know, did nintendo changed that?)
also, a lot of switch 2 games need small update to works (not even counting GKC)

If you read my sentence carefully you will see that I say "before using your any game with the migswitch"). Lot of the upgrade packs (like red dead redemption) for the sw2 can be downloaded even if you don't yet have put the game in your console, so before even using the sw2 with mig you could download all those.
Also people is reporting that they don't have any issues downloading the game updates on a sw2 (as long as they use full correct dumps) where they have just inserted the cartridge and browse the games (off-line) but not used them... so you could always do that before using any of the games in the console with the mig... just browse the games in the mig (not starting any, and download all the updates).
And yes, even banned, there is the local communication for the updates you can still use.

 

[aos10]

If you read my sentence carefully you will see that I say "before using your any game with the migswitch"). Lot of the upgrade packs (like red dead redemption) for the sw2 can be downloaded even if you don't yet have put the game in your console, so before even using the sw2 with mig you could download all those.
Also people is reporting that they don't have any issues downloading the game updates on a sw2 (as long as they use full correct dumps) where they have just inserted the cartridge and browse the games (off-line) but not used them... so you could always do that before using any of the games in the console with the mig... just browse the games in the mig (not starting any, and download all the updates).
And yes, even banned, there is the local communication for the updates you can still use.

so, by using correct pirated dump of pokemon scarlet and put it in the mig, then remove it, and update the game on switch 2, like that?

 

[TheStonedModder]

so, by using correct pirated dump of pokemon scarlet and put it in the mig, then remove it, and update the game on switch 2, like that?

a pirated dump will flag you for ban. Correctly dumped or not. You're asking for a ban either way

 

[aos10]

a pirated dump will flag you for ban. Correctly dumped or not. You're asking for a ban either way

but that what i was saying from the start, if you use your own legit copy you should not get banned, but the other guy saying you can update pirated copy.

 

[dolpf]

but the other guy saying you can update pirated copy.

It's possible. Many people have written about this, and not only here. But it's not 100% safe; there's always a risk of being banned, and those who use the two-Switch method understand this perfectly well.
Here's an example of how pirated dumps are used on two Switch 2s. On one Switch 2, they are updated via eShop, and these updates are transferred locally to the second Switch 2 for playing.

 

[aos10]

It's possible. Many people have written about this, and not only here. But it's not 100% safe; there's always a risk of being banned, and those who use the two-Switch method understand this perfectly well.
Here's an example of how pirated dumps are used on two Switch 2s. On one Switch 2, they are updated via eShop, and these updates are transferred locally to the second Switch 2 for playing.

so, two switch 2? tbh, this is very stupid and waste of time.