Leak???? OMG

[Deleted-379826]

Wait what was leaked ?

 

[KapuDaKoopa]

ah, ah,ah, in the CURRENT conditions, I say.

woopsie

 

[CJB100]

@CJB100 That's not what I meant. People (and teams)
are gonna do stuff on there own side. And then when one will get it, others will somehow complain and there will be drama and people pissed off. Whereas when something working gets released, everybody makes that thing better without recreating everything from scratch.

Good night.

I am by no means disagreeing with you, but I just don't understand because I'm not really a dev here yet. I'm working on it though lol. Slowly...
But yeah, I still don't see why people would get pissed off. Other than petty crap that can be talked out. Feel free to shed some light though. Like I said, I just don't know, I'm not experienced in this scene yet. All I know is how I would personally react.

 

[insidexdeath]

KTM such vapor ware amirite uptop

KTM was actually your fault. You promised something you never delivered. I know there were other downgrading solutions, but my point still stands.

My main issue is how you exaggerated this leak, making it seem like nothing can be done now because of it. Well the 3DS scene is now the way it is because of leaks.

If anything, this leak will just shut up most bragging devs on Twitter etc from bragging about something 'we don't have'.

 

[Sammi Husky]

This is the first post I've read that I feel like I can understand where people are coming from. I still don't see why people say it drives devs away though. Look, it's only going to drive someone away if they let it. Period.

imo it's sure to drive a ton of devs away simply because piracy is easy. One of the easier things to achieve after breaking security. The vast majority of devs aren't going to want to rehash the same things over and over again, and the ones who dont agree with piracy aren't really going to want to invest time into making something most of the userbase won't use. That's all i was sayin.

 

[MrRean]

KTM was actually your fault. You promised something you never delivered. I know there were other downgrading solutions, but my point still stands.

My main issue is how you exaggerated this leak, making it seem like nothing can be done now because of it. Well the 3DS scene is now the way it is because of leaks.

If anything, this leak will just shut up most bragging devs on Twitter etc from bragging about something 'we don't have'.

actually we didn't have any sort of physical exploit, only knowledge. It's not really braggable if you know the exploit

however, nothing IOSU related was bragged about afaik, but oh well

 

[DeslotlCL]

I love some tasty drama with french fries

GUYS GUYS GUYS, you know what? just let's wait silently while we keep playing our pirated garbage games.

 

[depaul]

War what was leaked ?

Maybe only the chat history http://pastebin.com/yrat8mmB was leaked, which we know to be fake.

 

[CJB100]

imo it's sure to drive a ton of devs away simply because piracy is easy. One of the easier things to achieve after breaking security. The vast majority of devs aren't going to want to rehash the same things over and over again, and the ones who dont agree with piracy aren't really going to want to invest time into making something most of the userbase won't use. That's all i was sayin.

There is still so much the Wii U does not have on the Wii U side of things: emulators, native "channels" or "homebrew launchers" on the main screen that would allow people to test their applications more quickly, perhaps direct links to vWii applications. And there will always be users like me who just want to code on something for the hell of it. I'll be honest, aside from cooking up GUI's or maybe some tutorials on coding, I'm probably just going to code simple little games once the Wii U scene opens up a little more. That's what I'm doing right now attempting to learn coding for the vWii with C.

 

[greenlanternx]

Trust if this thing had AAA titles more people would turn their attention to it. I guess you could argue GBA on the pad would be kinda bad ass.

maybe if the pad could work stand alone.....

 

[insidexdeath]

I wouldn't go so far as to say that. I know from being a programmer. It's nerve-wracking releasing unfinished products. There really is almost a sense of people coming in and invading your personal space, when in reality they just want to be kept in the loop so they know progress is being made. I'm sure a lot of people did have things they wanted to work on, but that's the nature here. It doesn't ever happen the way you want it to. You have to acknowledge reality and move on.

Of course leaking unfinished products is annoying, but the Wii U scene's literally dead because no one wants to release anything, and when something gets leaked, you have a group of 'devs' complaining about how this leak ruined their plans for releasing a finished product. Personally, I think it's complete utter bullshit.

I will repeat my previous point and say if anyone wanted something to be released, they would've done that a while ago or at least showed a proof of concept.

 

[Sammi Husky]

I will repeat my previous point and say if anyone wanted something to be released, they would've done that a while ago or at least showed a proof of concept.

Your forgetting all the proof of concepts that actually were posted by pretty much anyone notable who worked on WiiU (including smea), that everyone basically screamed and cried that they were just bragging or showing off to grow their e-peen. Or, the other side that cried that it was fake anyways.

 

[CJB100]

Of course leaking unfinished products is annoying, but the Wii U scene's literally dead because no one wants to release anything, and when something gets leaked, you have a group of 'devs' complaining about how this leak ruined their plans for releasing a finished product. Personally, I think it's complete utter bullshit.

I will repeat my previous point and say if anyone wanted something to be released, they would've done that a while ago or at least showed a proof of concept.

I'm sure I'll develop an opinion on that, but for now I just want people to get along. After all, those devs are going to be the ones to thank when they make an exploit usable for us normal hackers / novice developers like myself.

 

[insidexdeath]

actually we didn't have any sort of physical exploit, only knowledge. It's not really braggable if you know the exploit

however, nothing IOSU related was bragged about afaik, but oh well

Smea's video on Twitter showing IOSU in action.. Does that ring a bell?

 

[Sammi Husky]

Smea's video on Twitter showing IOSU in action.. Does that ring a bell?

Smea and co. worked on IOSU on their own, afaik they were working completely independently of each other.

 

[CJB100]

C'mon people. Let's key it down a bit here. I'm not sure why this thread just blew up. And continues to.

 

[insidexdeath]

Your forgetting all the proof of concepts that actually were posted by pretty much anyone notable who worked on WiiU (including smea), that everyone basically screamed and cried that they were just bragging or showing off to grow their e-peen. Or, the other side that cried that it was fake anyways.

That video was definitely bragging. The guy literally said he's not releasing this by the end of his video.. Why the hell record a video if you're not releasing what you've developed?

When I said a proof of concept, I meant a video recording showing your work and stating that a release is planned, you don't need to give dates or anything.

 

[Sammi Husky]

That video was definitely bragging. The guy literally said he's not releasing this by the end of his video.. Why the hell record a video if you're not releasing what you've developed?

When I said a proof of concept, I meant a video recording showing your work and stating that a release is planned, you don't need to give dates or anything.

People can post about what their working on without plans to release without it being bragging though? I mean it's his twitter and blog, he just posts about whatever he's doing for people who are interested. Just because he's popular doesn't mean he shouldn't be able to post his personal projects and stuff without people getting up in arms about it being bragging?

C'mon people. Let's key it down a bit here. I'm not sure why this thread just blew up. And continues to.

Agreed. I think the thread is passed toxicity, there isn't anything that getting upset is going to do. Just wasted time and a bad mood. If people are happy about the leak, good for them. If not, well it sucks but life moves on. Nothing we can do.

I encourage civilized discussion and debate though, i quite enjoyed our conversation at least.

 

[Jow Banks]

Maybe only the chat history http://pastebin.com/yrat8mmB was leaked, which we know to be fake.

So it's confirmed that this is all fake?
I know the part about 0xF5AF5AF5 is fake - that doesnt show up in any of the firmware.

 

[CJB100]

So it's confirmed that this is all fake?
I know the part about 0xF5AF5AF5 is fake - that doesnt show up in any of the firmware.

I'd hope not, but I never ruled out that possibility. Got my hopes up for a bit though.