The modern interpretation of Jesus is that of a universalist. But if you only look at his quotes before his death (and let´s just assume they are historical), the question arises whether he was actually a national socialist.
I´m not a new atheist type of "gotcha" person, but I am interested in your views on this.
The evidence:
1) He says he is only there to help his own people and he calls a woman a dog in an allegory for being foreign. Talking allegorically does not make it any less offensive. What would people (rightfully) call you if you said this about other ethnicities?
[read Mt 15: 24He answered, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel." 25The woman came and knelt before him. "LORD, help me!" she said. 26He replied, "It is not right to take the children's bread and toss it to the dogs."]
2) He uses more xenophobic slurs: “Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces.“ [Matthew 7,6]
3) Every child is told the story about the Good Samaritan. But what´s so special about a Brit helping out a Brit? This story is NOT about foreigners but about blood-related people who have opposing views (e.g. Brexit). Has anyone bothered looking up what a Samaritan is? It is a story of national socialism rather than universalim.
"Samaritan, member of a community of Jews, now nearly extinct, that claims to be related by blood to those Jews of ancient Samaria who were not deported by the Assyrian conquerors of the kingdom of Israel in 722 bce. The Samaritans call themselves Bene-Yisrael (“Children of Israel”)" [https://www.britannica.com/topic/Samaritan]
Jesus does help foreigners (the woman in Mt 5, the officer in Mt 8) but keep in mind that these are exceptional foreigners who humble themselves ("I am not worthy of you") or have helped HIS PEOPLE in the past (the officer).
-snip-
I rest my case.
Jesus was probably turned into a universalist after the vast majority of Jews rejected the early Jewish Christians. So they had to turn to foreigners for their religion to survive. Today it is largely a Non-Jewish religion.
I´m not a new atheist type of "gotcha" person, but I am interested in your views on this.
The evidence:
1) He says he is only there to help his own people and he calls a woman a dog in an allegory for being foreign. Talking allegorically does not make it any less offensive. What would people (rightfully) call you if you said this about other ethnicities?
[read Mt 15: 24He answered, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel." 25The woman came and knelt before him. "LORD, help me!" she said. 26He replied, "It is not right to take the children's bread and toss it to the dogs."]
2) He uses more xenophobic slurs: “Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces.“ [Matthew 7,6]
3) Every child is told the story about the Good Samaritan. But what´s so special about a Brit helping out a Brit? This story is NOT about foreigners but about blood-related people who have opposing views (e.g. Brexit). Has anyone bothered looking up what a Samaritan is? It is a story of national socialism rather than universalim.
"Samaritan, member of a community of Jews, now nearly extinct, that claims to be related by blood to those Jews of ancient Samaria who were not deported by the Assyrian conquerors of the kingdom of Israel in 722 bce. The Samaritans call themselves Bene-Yisrael (“Children of Israel”)" [https://www.britannica.com/topic/Samaritan]
Jesus does help foreigners (the woman in Mt 5, the officer in Mt 8) but keep in mind that these are exceptional foreigners who humble themselves ("I am not worthy of you") or have helped HIS PEOPLE in the past (the officer).
-snip-
I rest my case.
Jesus was probably turned into a universalist after the vast majority of Jews rejected the early Jewish Christians. So they had to turn to foreigners for their religion to survive. Today it is largely a Non-Jewish religion.
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