January 6th hearings

[RedColoredStars]

I can imagine you jump up and down, clap and laugh if you saw a wheel going round.

I'm not surprised. You imagine all sorts of weird shit all the time. You probably imagine me naked too.

 

[Dark_Ansem]

The

If you don’t have a rebuttal to any of the points, don’t respond. I’m not going to humour you since you’re incapable of having a conversation.

The best rebuttal is that not only a "libertarian think tank" is an oxymoron, but they've also been out of such "reports" for almost a decade, making your points moot, outdated and biased.

Lol at "incapable of having a conversation" at the guy slinging insults then hiding behind mod status

 

[RedColoredStars]

slinging insults then hiding behind mod status

This is something I have very much noticed. Educated guess says no one higher up will ever do anything about it, regardless of how many people would report a quite large amount of their comments.

 

[Foxi4]

@Foxi4 @TraderPatTX @mrdude

The only thing I can do is laugh at you people. I have nothing else. The things you people come up with are so far out there that all I can do anymore is laugh. That's it. Laugh at you. Not with you. AT you. There are no words to describe your nonsense. Only laughter. Toodles.

That’s fine. The EPA declaring a region non-attainable is equivalent to a ban on extraction in said region, and they answer directly to the chief executive. It’s just one story out of many, there are pages upon pages on the administration’s war on fossil fuels. Oil tycoons have no interest in dropping billions of dollars into quicksand. They’re not naive enough to engage in any sort of ban evasion… right? That’d be silly.

The

The best rebuttal is that not only a "libertarian think tank" is an oxymoron, but they've also been out of such "reports" for almost a decade, making your points moot, outdated and biased.

Lol at "incapable of having a conversation" at the guy slinging insults then hiding behind mod status

You’re changing the subject to healthcare because you have no rebuttal in regards to fossil fuels. For the record, Switzerland consistently ranks at the top of the list of countries with the best healthcare in the world, it’s not a “libertarian think tank” idea, it’s a fact. It’s one of the best systems in the world, if not the best period - depends on who you ask. Here’s a report from 2021 - so much for “outdated sources”.

https://freopp.org/key-findings-from-the-freopp-world-index-of-healthcare-innovation-cda78938c047

The reason why I won’t engage with you in a serious debate is specifically because you’re only capable of whataboutism - you had absolutely nothing to say about fossil fuels, so you switched to a different subject that’s in no way related - “well sure, you said this, but what about this” - it’s textbook.

whataboutism
noun

The technique or practice of responding to an accusation or difficult question by making a counter-accusation or raising a different issue.

You do it consistently, it’s very transparent and predictable. The funny part is that you’re equally poorly-equipped to discuss healthcare, but it was your choice, not mine. If you want to write a long sermon about how you think healthcare should work, you’re welcome to do so, but I’m not required to listen to your bloviating.

Once again, if you have no to-the-point rebuttal, you have no business responding. Since you are responding regardless, I have to interpret that as a (poorly-executed) attempt at attacking my character, or an (equally poorly-executed) attempt at trolling. I’m not interested in either, I’m only interested in the administration’s poor handling of the fuel crisis, at least at this time.

 

[Dark_Ansem]

The reason why I won’t engage with you in a serious debate is specifically because you’re only capable of whataboutism - you had absolutely nothing to say about fossil fuels, so you switched to a different subject that’s in no way related - “well sure, you said this, but what about this” - it’s textbook.

I had actually something very relevant to say about your disingenous claim that you don't say "incorrect stuff". Your fault for claiming it as some sort of fact in the thread as if your name can equate to an "appeal to authority". If you didn't want to make it relevant, then you should have refrained from this embarassingly wrong self-praise.

You’re changing the subject to healthcare because you have no rebuttal in regards to fossil fuels. For the record, Switzerland consistently ranks at the top of the list of countries with the best healthcare in the world, it’s not a “libertarian think tank” idea, it’s a fact. It’s one of the best systems in the world, if not the best period - depends on who you ask. Here’s a report from 2021 - so much for “outdated sources”.

https://freopp.org/key-findings-from-the-freopp-world-index-of-healthcare-innovation-cda78938c047

Oh, look, it's another RIGHTWING think tank from the US which claims to be non-partisan whose main legal objective is the repeal of ACA in the USA LMAO It's really in your DNA to be disingenous!

Seriously, no one said that Switzerland has bad healthcare. But your infatuation with the hellscape that is insurance system is borderline ridiculous.

And no, I didn't make any comment about fossil fuels because I already made my position known ages ago: drop them. I even changed my mind about nuclear, but there's no doubt we'd all be powered up by solar-wind, heck even geothermal. A well-placed Solar plant in Italy could provide energy for the whole european continent, just like Nobel Prize Carlo Rubbia claimed about Solar power in the sahara. Desertec is still a thing.

And note: Nobel Prize, name AND Surname, NOT vague think-tanks dropped there with no bias check.

Once again, if you have no to-the-point rebuttal, you have no business responding. Since you are responding regardless, I have to interpret that as a (poorly-executed) attempt at attacking my character, or an (equally poorly-executed) attempt at trolling. I’m not interested in either, I’m only interested in the administration’s poor handling of the fuel crisis, at least at this time.

It's a precisation about stuff you do for people who just joined the thread to thread lightly around you. I noticed you couldn't help yourself from attacking me with your baseless claims.

The reason why I won’t engage with you in a serious debate is specifically because you’re only capable of whataboutism - you had absolutely nothing to say about fossil fuels, so you switched to a different subject that’s in no way related - “well sure, you said this, but what about this” - it’s textbook.

Hate to break it to you, but this thread is about Jan 6th hearings. Go take your complaints about "plot derailment" to someone who cares.

 

[tabzer]

Forcing people to buy "healthcare" policy is immoral. Slave away for your good health--as pharmaceutical giants dictate how much it is worth.

If you were interested in being non-partisan, you would would refrain from treating the sources as left vs right and stick to the facts.

 

[Foxi4]

I had actually something very relevant to say about your disingenous claim that you don't say "incorrect stuff". Your fault for claiming it as some sort of fact in the thread as if your name can equate to an "appeal to authority". If you didn't want to make it relevant, then you should have refrained from this embarassingly wrong self-praise.

Oh, look, it's another RIGHTWING think tank from the US which claims to be non-partisan whose main legal objective is the repeal of ACA in the USA LMAO It's really in your DNA to be disingenous!

Seriously, no one said that Switzerland has bad healthcare. But your infatuation with the hellscape that is insurance system is borderline ridiculous.

And no, I didn't make any comment about fossil fuels because I already made my position known ages ago: drop them. I even changed my mind about nuclear, but there's no doubt we'd all be powered up by solar-wind, heck even geothermal. A well-placed Solar plant in Italy could provide energy for the whole european continent, just like Nobel Prize Carlo Rubbia claimed about Solar power in the sahara. Desertec is still a thing.

And note: Nobel Prize, name AND Surname, NOT vague think-tanks dropped there with no bias check.

It's a precisation about stuff you do for people who just joined the thread to thread lightly around you. I noticed you couldn't help yourself from attacking me with your baseless claims.

Hate to break it to you, but this thread is about Jan 6th hearings. Go take your complaints about "plot derailment" to someone who cares.

You will note that this reply to my original post about the administration’s record on oil leases has nothing to do with oil leases and is another attempt at pivoting away from the problem that was being discussed.

For the record, FREOPP is considered non-partisan. Y’know who isn’t? SourceWatch, ran by the Center for Media and Democracy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_for_Media_and_Democracy

You can tell by how their website looks like it was made by a child, or a loon. When I see “EXPOOOOSED!” right in the URL’s, I know this is a source I can trust. All jokes aside, at least they have some credits to their name, but if you’re going to accuse someone of bias, pick your own sources better. Not that it matters since you seem disinterested in discussing what you originally replied to anyway.

 

[Dark_Ansem]

By who? Themselves? They self-identify as non-partisan? And here I thought you were opposed to the many genders!

For the record, FREOPP is considered non-partisan. Y’know who isn’t? SourceWatch, ran by the Center for Media and Democracy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_for_Media_and_Democracy

Doesn't say anywhere that it's partisan or unfairly biased tho.

You can tell by how their website looks like it was made by a child, or a loon. When I see “EXPOOOOSED!” right in the URL’s, I know this is a source I can trust. All jokes aside, at least they have some credits to their name, but if you’re going to accuse someone of bias, pick your own sources better. Not that it matters since you seem disinterested in discussing what you originally replied to anyway

I am still discussing what I replied to. What I replied to you, of course.

And frankly, for being a Wikipedia copy-paste, their website looks better than 90% of rightwing websites that you regularly visit!

Stop hiding behind "you're interested in discussing" nonsense as if there's someone here who has been acting in mala fide consistently, it's you.

 

[Foxi4]

By who? Themselves? They self-identify as non-partisan? And here I thought you were opposed to the many genders!


Doesn't say anywhere that it's partisan or unfairly biased tho.



I am still discussing what I replied to. What I replied to you, of course.

And frankly, for being a Wikipedia copy-paste, their website looks better than 90% of rightwing websites that you regularly visit!

Stop hiding behind "you're interested in discussing" nonsense as if there's someone here who has been acting in mala fide consistently, it's you.

I gave you three chances to actually respond in good faith to the original post about oil leases. Instead, you gave me another dose of whataboutism (“yes, their page is a Wikipedia copy-paste, but the right-wing sites yada yada”, “yeah, I’m posting off-topic, but what about you yada yada”). Since you are so keen on proving my initial assessment correct, I’ll be ignoring your future attempts until you post something relevant (which is unlikely).

 

[DJPlace]

is this a good thing or a bad thing?

 

[mrdude]

I’ll be ignoring your future attempts until you post something relevant (which is unlikely).

TBH you're wasting your time to even bother reading what these nutjobs come up with, they don't live in reality and would argue that black is white if it would paint them as some kind of victim. You'd be better putting these menal lefty types on your ignore list and not replying to them any further as they are unable to grasp even the most basic concepts. It just lucky for them that they were born in the century they were because if they had been born 100 years ago, they wouldn't have faired well at all. If they were to go and live in a "normal" country where there's none of this woke crap - they would probably be dead within a month or so. I think they should be forced to live in North Korea for 3 months, to check out how commies really live - then see if they come back with the same mentality.

 

[Dark_Ansem]

I gave you three chances to actually respond in good faith to the original post about oil leases. Instead, you gave me another dose of whataboutism (“yes, their page is a Wikipedia copy-paste, but the right-wing sites yada yada”, “yeah, I’m posting off-topic, but what about you yada yada”). Since you are so keen on proving my initial assessment correct, I’ll be ignoring your future attempts until you post something relevant (which is unlikely).

I wasn't aware the "Milwaukee alternartive weekly" had such sway! I was talking about free ops brw.

You gave me "chances"? You're a nobody with too much delusional power on your hands, you said nothing about oil leases and instead of vague "chances" which you're in no authority to give anyway you'd have asked a direct question. Go back to writing classes.

*random insane ImBrexile copium*

There, there.
3 months in North Korea would be a breeze for me. You'd die after 3 days. The regimen there values capable people, not brainless sycophants like you.

 

[tabzer]

If you don't care about the people you are talking to, then why do you bother to talk to begin with?

 

[RedColoredStars]

If you don't care about the people you are talking to, then why do you bother to talk to begin with?

Explain why you haven't asked yourself the same question. Are you going to tell me you actually care about all of the people you reply to on here? My God. You people are just so incredibly bizarre and say the most strange things I've ever heard.

 

[Dark_Ansem]

Explain why you haven't asked yourself the same question. Are you going to tell me you actually care about all of the people you reply to on here? My God. You people are just so incredibly bizarre and say the most strange things I've ever heard.

Expecting coherent answers from that one? Don't bother. Watching rainfall is a more productive use of your time.

 

[Foxi4]

I wasn't aware the "Milwaukee alternartive weekly" had such sway! I was talking about free ops brw.

Notice how you neglect to mention all the other sources listed.

You gave me "chances"? You're a nobody with too much delusional power on your hands, you said nothing about oil leases and instead of vague "chances" which you're in no authority to give anyway you'd have asked a direct question. Go back to writing classes.

This is the post you initially responded to. We were talking about oil leases under the Biden administration. Of course you forgot, considering the fact you’re obviously not here to add to the discussion, you’re here to (fail) at sniping and cause arguments. That’s precisely why I told you I’m not interested in a serious discussion with you, and nothing has changed in that regard. Thank you for telling everyone in the thread that you’ve injected yourself into a discussion without even knowing what it’s about.

I have the best super fans, clearly.

 

[tabzer]

Explain why you haven't asked yourself the same question. Are you going to tell me you actually care about all of the people you reply to on here? My God. You people are just so incredibly bizarre and say the most strange things I've ever heard.

Yes. I sincerely do. As much as I want to rile people up, it is because I care about them that I even bother. If I have offended you, please direct me to the where and the how. I'm more than obliged to address all of your concerns. That's not sarcasm, btw.

Also, "You people"? I don't personally identify with a single person here. Maybe the world is too big for you, that someone like me would seem "bizarre". Who are my kin? Why am I bizarre? I could be angry and say "fuck you" but I am pretty certain that is the feeling you get by having me respond to you, despite my honest intention.

Expecting coherent answers from that one? Don't bother. Watching rainfall is a more productive use of your time.

Considering that watching rainfall is therapeutic, and therapy is what you need, then yes.

 

[Dark_Ansem]

This is the post you initially responded to. We were talking about oil leases under the Biden administration. Of course you forgot, considering the fact you’re obviously not here to add to the discussion, you’re here to (fail) at sniping and cause arguments. That’s precisely why I told you I’m not interested in a serious discussion with you, and nothing has changed in that regard. Thank you for telling everyone in the thread that you’ve injected yourself into a discussion without even knowing what it’s about.

I have the best super fans, clearly.

Actually I didn't reply to the post. I replied to a very single specific point made in that post, which I quoted. Do you know what quoting implies? I didn't care at all about the oil point, otherwise I would have quoted that. Like I basically do at every message. And it's not exactly new behaviour.

So yeah, the one incapable of having an honest conversation, in the end, is you, because you clearly cannot help yourself from engaging in bad faith.

And obviously my (unintentional) sniping touched a nerve since all your delusions of grandeur and finesse have dissolved. Not that sniping was my purpose, as I said I just wanted to emphasise a tendency of yours to engage in clear bad faith.

Notice how you neglect to mention all the other sources listed.

Yeah, because all your other sources are ultra right wing or libertarian-based so, once again, intellectual dishonesty at your finest. The only one that is acceptable, the NYT since its both public-owned and it won more Pulitzers than any other paper, curiously does not share your claims of it being biased. The WP, which is billionaire-owned and for that implicitly less trustworthy, only claims it is "liberal", but not left-wing, and emphasises its watchdog purposes.

I had never heard of the LaCrosse local until today but frankly, considering it's owned by that shady Freeman who makes a living out of buying local newspapers and gutting them, I'm having a hard time taking them seriously.

Lastly, all these evaluations are moot when one looks at what your think-tank wants to achieve, and since their main objective is the repeal of ACA, it's obvious where they stand. Then again I didn't need a 3rd party to tell me, once that became known the rest became obvious.

 

[Foxi4]

*Full bowl of spaghetti*

This is tiresome. You responded to me saying “nothing I said was incorrect”, that’s the part you quoted and apparently had a problem with. Your response was “it wasn’t correct either”. Based on that, one would assume you had a rebuttal, something that indicates which part wasn’t correct. You don’t, you just wanted to talk about me a little bit, so the conversation is over - you have nothing to add to the exchange you interrupted. I’m not interested in chit-chatting with you. I told you as much in my first reply - if you have nothing to add to the discussion, don’t bother responding, we’re not going to have tea and cookies together. If you ”don’t care” to talk about what we were discussing, there’s an easy fix for that - don’t.

 

[Dark_Ansem]

we’re not going to have tea and cookies together

Thank goodness for that, it's well-known you're inept at frying eggs, let alone something more complicated like boiling water!

This is tiresome.

Correcting your mistakes and tolerating your ill-placed smugness is indeed tiresome.

Based on that, one would assume you had a rebuttal, something that indicates which part wasn’t correct. You don’t, you just wanted to talk about me a little bit

I already said what I wanted to do, eat more fish as it's good for brain and memory.

if you have nothing to add to the discussion, don’t bother responding, we’re not going to have tea and cookies together. If you ”don’t care” to talk about what we were discussing, there’s an easy fix for that - don’t.

So, have I got news for you: you don't make the rules for this thread, you don't make rules in general and you most certainly don't dictate where discussion goes. You seem a tad high on imaginary power trips,