Yes exactly but if ISP logs the Traffic in the first case that is more horrifying IMO, I would prefer to be Censored rather than monitored. I agree with what you have been saying and I like the car analogy. DinohScene this response Warning: Spoilers inside! is what could land you a fat fine when being questioned. (it's a very grey area, civil matters are allowed to be very grey areas) Lets say that you have a keen hobby of PS4 game collecting, so you think it's okay to make some backup versions to preserve the original, and you lend your Back ups to a mate, who then uploads them to a site. Eventually they come after him, and the bread crumb trail leads back to you. You get invited to court as a witness perhaps. Thinking you are innocent in all of this, proceed to talk to the Lawyers sent from lets say 'Sony' next thing you know, you are there in the stand defending yourself. Just because you thought it was legitimate when it isn't. Sony has enough money and power to make an example of you and your friends, and suing you for massive amounts of money already would make you shit scared, and make you feel like you life was going to end. Most people would not or could not afford a decent lawyer. Most likely you will lose all your friends and branded as a pirate and thief, So before the case even begins you are on the back foot, depressed and disheartened, Mainly due to intimidation. I'm willing to bet you wouldn't feel that was very moral of Sony if they put you in that situation? Especially if you 'believed' you were acting within the law. Its clear that they are relying on our peoples honesty and willingness to explain and help them. But in the end, we screw our selves up for not knowing, and being scared. Right of free speech, or in this case freedom of silence , or pleading the fifth if you are in US, Is important. That is there so you don't unknowingly implicate yourself to a crime. Like in this scenario. It might just save you. Through intimidation we are obedient it seems. Imagine we refused to be intimidated by corporate threatening letters, invitations to a court hearing and refused any correspondence or dates. or people knocking at your door. What would happen? Then it would have to go to a criminal court right ? but only if there is enough evidence to warrant a strong criminal case against you right? I'm not to sure on these details. anyone know?