IGN: Iwata "explains" Nintendo's use of region-locking

[the_randomizer]

Meh. That's all I say. I know region locking doesn't justify piracy, but what other people do is their business.

 

[Zetta_x]

I see a lot of irony in this topic:

"Don't complain when homebrew developers add anti-piracy in their homebrew"
"F*** you Nintendo for adding region locking in your console"

 

[Gahars]

Clearly we just haven't hashtagged hard enough.

 

[the_randomizer]

I see a lot of irony in this topic:

"Don't complain when homebrew developers add anti-piracy in their homebrew"
"F*** you Nintendo for adding region locking in your console"

Why should that affect you personally?

 

[stanleyopar2000]

so translation: doki doki majo shinpan 3 or kaguara Burst 3D will only be available to pervy Japanese people then?

since they don't want that content to be in the hands of American users.

I think region-locking is very anti-consumer but what or how I chose to retaliate or practice my opinion is my own business, and others should make it private too, to avoid and not start the "piracy justification" bullshit argument.

EX: "I'll pirate their import games until they listen" don't you realize that is going to stir up the hornets nest of morality all over the thread?? stfu please

My two cents: Nintendo has now mentioned this because of the growing number of region-free supporters in regards to the petition. With their response Iwata is pretty much telling you consumers and gamers to stick that petition up your ass because they ain't changin' for anyone or anything [hence why he defended region-locking]

how is Sony's PS3 region free to allow similar "cultural conflicting" content to be allowed in American users without repercussion? Sony is also a Japanese company..suureelly both Sony and Nintendo [both Japanese companies so probably similar cultural ideas] both follow the same cultural restrictions to preserve western gamers right?

 

[Zetta_x]

Why should that affect you personally?

The only thing that has affected me personally is staring at your response for 3 minutes without a clue to what you are asking

 

[the_randomizer]

The only thing that has affected me personally is staring at your response for 3 minutes without a clue to what you are asking

I'm asking about your getting upset at this thread. If what people say on this thread is bothering you so much, maybe you shouldn't read the responses. Region locking, no matter what, is anti-consumerists. So far, no one has stepped forward to explain the phenomenon that is the DS. If region locking is so vital, why didn't the DS lose sales?

 

[TwoBladedKnight]

Piracy says Hi Nintendo.

Importing games is pretty much useless since pretty much every game comes out in all regions.
Except Japan only games.

Guess that's a valid reason for importing games..

Not really, a lot of Shin megami tensei games don't come over to EU (SMT Strange Journey) or when they do it takes forever (Devil Survivor Overclocked 2+ years) I'm sure there's a lot of others games like this. And that's why I'd like to be able to import without having to pay for another console/handheld.

 

[the_randomizer]

Piracy cannot be stopped, it's a vain effort, people are going to do it irrespective of any laws, what companies say, it's going to happen. I'm not going to say anything that promotes or discourages it. What people do isn't my concern. DRM sucks, region locking in all its forms sucks. Does it make me a criminal for buying a Japanese movie and bypassing the lock with VLC player?

 

[Zetta_x]

I'm asking about your getting upset at this thread. If what people say on this thread is bothering you so much, maybe you shouldn't read the responses. Region locking, no matter what, is anti-consumerists. So far, no one has stepped forward to explain the phenomenon that is the DS. If region locking is so vital, why didn't the DS lose sales?

I am way at a loss. I never got upset or even remotely close to anything but emotionless. I'm simply pointing out that I've identified a number of scumbag steves who would die to defend the right to add anti-piracy measures to their homebrew because it's their program and they can do whatever they want. Yet the same people feel the need to combat Nintendo's justification for adding region protection on THEIR OWN CONSOLE.

There doesn't need to be any logical justification for region locking.

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I'm still overly baffled how you read any type of emotions out of plain text. It reminds me of how people who study literature will spend days analyzing a text of what it's meaning could be then the author comes out and says, "Yeah, that's not what I meant." What confuses me more is I only wrote 3 lines and 2 of them were meant to capture how other temp members responded to such topics in the past.

 

[Ray Lewis]

Meh. That's all I say. I know region locking doesn't justify piracy, but what other people do is their business.

Everything justifies piracy. Homebrew is not really that appealing anymore on Wii U. Not spending the money on the Ukey either (and ripper chip, and other stuff like a screen). Digging from the vWii side is okay but I've always been about total freedom. Having the main "dash" secured was a good start for some systems. Secured meaning updates blocked then go from there. Anyone who says they want anything else is lying. All anyone has is the "Shot of espresso" blog and a hope that Marcan follows through and gives more if/when that project by Maxternal is done. How is that going anyway? Careful to not be seen talking with me...Megaprick might have a heart attack or threaten to not help out;-)

 

[the_randomizer]

Everything justifies piracy. Homebrew is not really that appealing anymore on Wii U. Not spending the money on the Ukey either (and ripper chip, and other stuff like a screen). Digging from the vWii side is okay but I've always been about total freedom. Having the main "dash" secured was a good start for some systems. Secured meaning updates blocked then go from there. Anyone who says they want anything else is lying. All anyone has is the "Shot of espresso" blog and a hope that Marcan follows through and gives more if/when that project by Maxternal is done. How is that going anyway? Careful to not be seen talking with me...Megaprick might have a heart attack or threaten to not help out;-)

I only said what I said because people are getting their panties in a twist on how region locking shouldn't be a means to justify piracy. But guess what, people are going to pirate no matter what The Man says.

 

[Deleted_171835]

I am way at a loss. I never got upset or even remotely close to anything but emotionless. I'm simply pointing out that I've identified a number of scumbag steves who would die to defend the right to add anti-piracy measures to their homebrew because it's their program and they can do whatever they want. Yet the same people feel the need to combat Nintendo's justification for adding region protection on THEIR OWN CONSOLE.

There doesn't need to be any logical justification for region locking.

No one's arguing that Nintendo isn't within their rights to add in region-locking to their consoles. They're arguing that they should remove it because it's an intrusive, restrictive, anti-consumer policy.

 

[deshayzilla]

I just say let us choose if we want to follow ratings systems! It's not like these ratings are even government organizations, they're basically private companies looking to make money off of video game sales by slapping some sort of sticker on every game. If I was a game company I would bypass those rating systems because they just suck money out of game companies. The ESRB is a buch of terrible money grubbing people.

No game publish should bow to those so called people. Nintendo surely shouldn't develop a region locking system based on game ratings in different regions. It is like saying private companies know better than the individual consumer. Let them take care of it instead of you. You're too busy going to work and driving your children to soccer practice to understand if your children should be playing certain games.

Do you really need the ESRB to inform you if your children should be playing Grand Theft Auto? Get real.

 

[Zetta_x]

No one's arguing that Nintendo isn't within their rights to add in region-locking to their consoles. They're arguing that they should remove it because it's an intrusive, restrictive, anti-consumer policy.

Well if we had a homebrew that had drm, wouldn't that be intrusive, restrictive and anti-consumer policy with respect to a different group of people?

Yet the same people who are arguing against regional locking would be saying, It's (whoever developed this homebrew) choice to add drm and ignore anything about it being intrusive, restrive, and anti-consumer policy. Which is a contradiction

 

[Deleted User]

Well if we had a homebrew that had drm, wouldn't that be intrusive, restrictive and anti-consumer policy with respect to a different group of people?

Yet the same people who are arguing against regional locking would be saying, It's (whoever developed this homebrew) choice to add drm. Which is a contradiction

...It is the developers choice, we're not arguing about the rights to place region-locking/drm, we're just saying it's a horrible idea. I have the rights to slit my wrists, doesn't mean I go around doing it because I can.

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You seriously had to fix your argument after I replied, really.

 

[DSGamer64]

And two fucks about region locking were not given on this day. I seriously don't understand all the crying over it. Most of the games that don't see international releases aren't worth releasing because no one will buy them outside Japan. It's within their right as a company to decide whether or not you can play games from other regions so stop whining. This is the only gaming forum I visit where people have some sense of entitlement over whether or not they can import games.

 

[PolloDiablo]

However, we hope people can appreciate the fact that we’re selling our products worldwide," Iwata told me, acknowledging that Nintendo has "historically" worked with region-locked systems. "

fuck you Iwata.... my Game Boys are region free

 

[Zetta_x]

...It is the developers choice, we're not arguing about the rights to place region-locking/drm, we're just saying it's a horrible idea. I have the rights to slit my wrists, doesn't mean I go around doing it because I can.

Let me tell you about the drm in homebrew. Discussions once arose saying how it's illogical to add drm to homebrew. It's restrictive blah blah blah. What was the conclusion of that discussion, the developers don't support piracy.

Let me tell you about the drm in regionlocking. Discussions once arose saying how it's illogical to add drm to regionlocking. It's restrictive blah blah blah. What was the conclusion of that discussion, the developers don't support regionfreers.

What's the difference? The same people who are willing to ignore homebrew developers choices and to tell everyone to ignore homebrew developers choices are all of a sudden taking a strong stance and choosing not to ignore Nintendo's choices.

 

[Deleted User]

Let me tell you about the drm in homebrew. Discussions once arose saying how it's illogical to add drm to homebrew. It's restrictive blah blah blah. What was the conclusion of that discussion, the developers don't support piracy.

Let me tell you about the drm in regionlocking. Discussions once arose saying how it's illogical to add drm to regionlocking. It's restrictive blah blah blah. What was the conclusion of that discussion, the developers don't support regionfreers.

What's the difference? The same people who are willing to ignore homebrew developers choices and to tell everyone to ignore homebrew developers choices are all of a sudden taking a strong stance and choosing not to ignore Nintendo's choices.

You can't group us all as one person, I have yet to use/see a drm homebrew. It's a dickhead move for a homebrew developer to use drm, I don't support that at all, and I doubt most people here would.