Idea For A New Homebrew Exploit Working On Wii/Wii Mini. Project : SoftMiiOut

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  1. Jitoku
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    If You Did Not Softmod Your Wii, You Can Check The Newest Guide To Hack Your Wii


    This Is Just An Idea. Its Not Something That Have Been Made Currently!!

    So As You Know, Currenty There Is No Way To Softmod A Wii Mini Since It Does Not Have Any Internet Connection Or An SD-Card Reader. There Is Also A Way To Enable Internet On Wii Mini With The ModChip Method Which Is Also Known As Hardmodding. And This SoftMiiOut Could Be New Homebrew Entry Point For Wii/Wii Mini Without SD-Card.

    Basically, the exploit will be based on WiiMote's Memory Which Is Like 45 KB. And The Way We Are Going To Place Exploit File Into WiiMote Is Mii Channel. You Can Store Mii's Into WiiMote Since The New Update. So The Plan Is Making An Modified Mii Channel To Place Exploit File Into Wiimote Instead Of Mii File. Also There Can Be Exploit Mii Which Is An Also Exploit Version Of Mii.

    I Don't Currently Know Any Coding For Wii, But I Know That There Is Someone Who Will Make This Real And Wii Mini User's Softmodding Dream.

    Thanks For Reading

    The Names For Exploit (As I Found) : RemoteBomb, MoteHax, RemoteHax, WiiMoteHax, WiiHax, SoftMiiOut, (You Can Tell Me Names That Can Be)

    You Can Also Reply Me If You Have An Idea Or Question :D
     
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  2. KiiWii

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    Nice didnt @tueidj use the wiimote memory for disc verification in devolution?
     
  3. Jitoku
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    Well, if he did. This is a new entry point for also Wii mini :D
     
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    The wii scene is silent these days, so not much hope someone will work on this. Further, wiis other than the wii mini are so cheap - that I don't think there is much interest in hacking the mini.

    Also, in English only the first words in sentences and proper nouns (names of people, places etc) are capitalized.

    ->Well, If He Did. This Is An New Entry Point For Also Wii Mini :D
    Should read
    ->Well, if he did. This is a new entry point for also Wii mini :D
     
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  5. Jitoku
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    Thanks for reply, I saw some people asking to how they hack their wii mini. This is why i thought this :D i will fix my mistakes
     
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  6. DeadlyFoez

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    Interesting idea, but it will not come to fruition even if it is possible.
     
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  7. Jitoku
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    Okay Thanks For Reply
     
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    May I ask, is your first language German? I know in German they capitalize almost everything.
     
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    Turkish.
     
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    I think the title is a bit misleading, it looks like you released something while you didn't.
     
  11. Cyan

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    I changed the title to look less like you already released something.
    I know you worked on FlashHax (Thanks for that! I already told people to use it), and you might be capable of working on another entry point, but posting something before having a technical low level explanation, a Proof of Concept, or a working exploit rarely ends well. These threads often end in bashing and people expecting to see something usable.
    I hope you will not get (too many) angry comments. if it ends bad, I'll close it.

    I don't know if you can exploit Mii from the wiimote, the mii (and not the mii channel !) is very small, it would be hard to code something in it. you'd first need a vulnerability to exploit it.
    it's possible to put mii on wiimote for years, it's not "since the new update" and I'm sure it has been thought and tried before.
     
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    Thanks for changing the title I also understood that I made a mistake. (I forgot you cant change titles), and there was not a ability to transfer miis in Wiimotes in the first versions of mii channel (as i checked for internet) also thanks for community of here, I didnt get angry comments. And you understood somethings wrong

    1. In my idea, Mii Channel is gonna be modified to transfer the exploit in Wiimote. We can launch it on dolphin emulator or an already soft modded wii to download wad into it.
    2. When the exploit is in the wiimote, you are going to open real Wii, and transfer it into Real Mii Channel.
    That was my idea. Its just and idea, I dont know if someone is gonna make it real based on my opinion, and thats not all.

    According to wikipedia : "This function is also used in Super Smash Bros. Brawl, allowing the user to save controller configuration data to the Wii Remote."
    You know, Super Smash Bros. Brawl is already vulnerable, I know that its vulnerable in SD-card, but we can also use other things to do too! (in my opinion)

    Thx
     
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  13. Cyan

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    You are right, it was the Mii parade which had that option, not the Mii channel.
    there were also a hidden menu to transfer the mii to 3DS, but this was added on a new version.

    The wiimote can also keep other data (non Mii) like SSBB setting, or Devolution disc verification checksum.


    I understand it's possible to write into the wiimote using a modified mii channel (you don't really need a modified mii channel, I'm sure you can use a homebrew to write what you want on a wiimote, even a computer with BT).
    the issue I see is having the original unhacked mii channel read that data on the console you want to hack. you first need to find a vulnerability in the way the mii channel read the wiimote data. To my understanding the Mii data have a CRC (easy to fix), but then the mii channel read each Mii separately, and not as a full code of 750bytes you can use to write your exploit.

    To my understanding (and by logic), the mii channel should do this:
    1- check CRC of the first 750bytes (there is a 2nd 750bytes as backup)
    2- read the full first 750bytes block in a buffer (at this point, it's not verified, not put in a place of executable memory)
    3- use a struct of Mii to parse each mii one by one.
    4- for each Mii, check if data match existing mii's value to generate a graphical mii. if one of the structure doesn't match expected value it will probably be marked as corrupted. I don't think the Mii channel will store on the console a corrupted mii (that you'll use to write your code to nand?).

    you need a way to force the wii to execute that memory before point 3, right?

    Maybe I'm wrong, I never messed with Wiimote's memory before.
     
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    I never messed with it too. Even not loading an exploit from Mii channel, there should be some other beneficial advantages to use.
    Also, since that Nintendo stopped support for Wii, I think its not something they would fix. Also u know ssbb is vulnerable, maybe we can make special code to make ssbb to read.
    Btw, I never worked on Flashhax (If you meant my replies, they are just replies, I never did worked on it)
    If u also meant my guide for SD-less homebrew, it was a guide for dream-broken guys (like me) I even bought a 2 gb sd card to load letter bomb. But thx for flashhax, they did it.

    Sorry for my English I wrote is pretty fast
     
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    Why Do You Post Every Word With A Capital?
    It Makes Reading It Incredibly Annoying.
     
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    Thanks for replying, Cyan already fixed it. :D
     
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  17. Cyan

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    ahh, sorry I mixed you with Fullmetal5, because you talked about Flashax. (sorry I don't remember all user's names and sometime get confused)
    I wrongly thought you knew how to code and how the wii worked.

    So, I now see this thread is just another random "idea of exploit" from someone who doesn't know how the console even works :/
    I hoped you had some low level idea of what you were talking about and knew something I didn't.
     
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  18. Jitoku
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    Why everyone is asking this Lmao

    Btw do u mean this : "So As You Know, Currenty There Is No Way To Softmod A Wii Mini Since It Does Not Have Any Internet Connection Or An SD-Card Reader." ?

    — Posts automatically merged - Please don't double post! —

    Okay please close the thread. Im sorry. I will never create a thread again.
     
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