HyperKin Retron5 steals code from Emulator Developers.

[Foxi4]

It's a good thing I can't code anything, I don't even know programming beyond BASIC. But of the BASIC I do know, I can program for the Commodore 64, the Apple II/e, and several Texas Instruments calculators like the TI-82, TI-83, TI-83 Plus, TI-84, TI-85, and the TI-86. Copying and pasting things into Windows batch files are about the extent of my "code borrowing", so calm down.

I'm very calm. All I'm saying is that "borrowing" code from other developers and claiming it as your own is a pretty big deal, it always has been, even in the "open source" or "homebrew" community.

 

[Shadow#1]

If it's open source, you can use it as long as you include the original license. You don't need to notify anyone, I don't know what gave people the idea that any tribute is required. Releasing your source code online as open source and getting upset that someone uses it is like leaving your wallet on the pavement and getting upset if someone robs you.

and they never do

 

[DJPlace]

Retrotron suck just buy the real system for Jolly old times.

 

[CheatFreak47]

Retrotron suck just buy the real system for golly's sake.

Retrotron. Also, I agree.
Who's golly?

 

[FAST6191]

Retrotron suck just buy the real system for golly's sake.

If they had did what they claimed (made a hardware compatible, or better yet an improved version of the original hardware, device that can still read the legacy carts/discs) then I can see it having some merit, be it for reducing the amount of junk under my screen or for making life easier in some other way.

 

[DJPlace]

Retrotron. Also, I agree.
Who's golly?

i meant to say Jolly Old Times.

yeah Retro Collection i have tried alot and alot of times but... i just can't do it... i have the urge to trade stuff in... heck i had a goal to collect every rare NES game NSTC side on this rariety list. and the last list i had was from 2000.

 

[Issac]

Who would buy a Retron5 anyway? I would, and have.
I have a lot of old games that I like to play. The old consoles looks like shit on my hdtv. Retron5 will with it's hdmi output look a lot better. Yes, it's emulation, but it still feels good to play my cartridges.
And then there's the save backups from the carts to the retron, and back! Many of my games' batteries have died, and this is a way for me to "save" those saves.
I could as well emulate with my computer and hook it up to my tv, but I feel better in my heart playing my carts for some reason.

 

[mkdms14]

Was not planing on getting this anyway. Too expensive and it can't play roms. I can do all of this and more on my modded Wii.

 

[Foxi4]

Was not planing on getting this anyway. Too expensive and it can't play roms. I can do all of this and more on my modded Wii.

Your Wii can't play cartridges, ergo it can't do anything the Retron was designed to do.

 

[mkdms14]

Your Wii can't play cartridges, ergo it can't do anything the Retron was designed to do.

True but it doesn't need to play cartridges I got the whole Nintendo library availably on my wii to play. The only advantage that the Retron 5 in my mind has over the a modded Wii is the ability to play on HD TVs with the HDMI port which the Wii doesn't have. If you really want to play cartridge games the way they were meant to be play not requiring emulations which the retron is using emulation is go out and buy the actual console. I see this type of thing only appealing to a small audience. I would imagine a lot of hard core people would just buy the old console over this but hey to each is there own.

 

[trumpet-205]

Who would buy a Retron5 anyway? I would, and have.
I have a lot of old games that I like to play. The old consoles looks like shit on my hdtv. Retron5 will with it's hdmi output look a lot better. Yes, it's emulation, but it still feels good to play my cartridges.
And then there's the save backups from the carts to the retron, and back! Many of my games' batteries have died, and this is a way for me to "save" those saves.
I could as well emulate with my computer and hook it up to my tv, but I feel better in my heart playing my carts for some reason.

Or you could get scaler like XRGB-Mini to looks even better than what R5 will offer.

 

[the_randomizer]

Or you could get scaler like XRGB-Mini to looks even better than what R5 will offer.

Which costs helluva lot more than the Retron-5 does, which is also easier to set up.

 

[trumpet-205]

Which costs helluva lot more than the Retron-5 does, which is also easier to set up.

Well it is either that or PC emulation. I seriously doubt R5 will house decent video scaler.

 

[the_randomizer]

Well it is either that or PC emulation. I seriously doubt R5 will house decent video scaler.

Still lot better than how the original consoles on HDTVs look, and they have the filters that emulators have. An Snes or Genesis on a new TV looks like a pile of crap, believe me, I've tried, 240 ain't that grand. The XRGB-mini is too expensive, way more than the R5. They have filtering that is similar to how PC does it. Just saying. The scaler is too overpriced.


http://www.amazon.com/DP3913515-Fra...caler-Import/dp/B006H39XJS?tag=donations09-20


$375 is too much.

 

[grossaffe]

I'm trying to remember who it was, but someone on Mod Retro replaced the PPA chip on the NES, I believe, to output a better picture.

Well it is either that or PC emulation. I seriously doubt R5 will house decent video scaler.

You can also replace the video encoder on the system like Drakon does.

 

[VashTS]

I commented on NES punks youtube video podcast about this matter so I'll say it again here cuz i feel like sharing my opinion...

Its definitely deceitful no doubt. They could get around this by simply ensuring you are paying for the hardware ONLY and the hardware can run the software. As long as the buyer is not specifically paying for the software, its within moral guidelines to me.

If I buy a used PC and they left their files on there and it included emulators that are freeware then that is fine.
If someone sells me SNES9x on a flash drive, that is not fine.

 

[FAST6191]

If someone sells me SNES9x on a flash drive, that is not fine.

In the case of SNES9X that might apply (its license does prohibit commercial use), however if it is most other kinds of open source then that would be perfectly fine on several levels, not least of all because of lines like

"a copy of the Corresponding Source for all the software in the product that is covered by this License, on a durable physical medium customarily used for software interchange, for a price no more than your reasonable cost of physically performing this conveying of source, "
http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html part 6.
http://xkcd.com/949/

 

[Issac]

Well it is either that or PC emulation. I seriously doubt R5 will house decent video scaler.

Have you seen the R5 in action? It looks great in my opinion.
Besides, I also wanted to use its save features which an upscaler won't help with, and I want an all in one system for my random retro playing.