Gaming How long before the [New Switch+] model?

[Futurdreamz]

Not quite sure what you mean. The xbox 360 has several different major hardware revisions. As does the PS3.

The Xbox 360 had severe hardware problems and you could get an upgrade to the newer hardware for free. And even then, it took two years for the first new revision to come out - and they were under pressure to release it ASAP. The PS3 only had revisions to make it smaller.

 

[foob]

The Xbox 360 had severe hardware problems and you could get an upgrade to the newer hardware for free. And even then, it took two years for the first new revision to come out - and they were under pressure to release it ASAP. The PS3 only had revisions to make it smaller.

Many things added & removed from both manufacturers. Also at least 3 major versions of hardware over their respective lifetimes. Most notable to me: revised models use far less power & are simply more reliable than early hardware.

 

[Sonic Angel Knight]

So difference between hardware revision and upgrade? Cause i see people saying hardware revision, when if is just a different model does same stuff, not a upgrade.

PS4 slim and pro is a upgrade cause of the 5GHZ in slim not in original and the better performance in pro, xbox one s and scorpio is a upgrade cause again, has more features the other does not. ps3 had no updated hardware with new models, infact it was downgrade since it lost ps2 backwards compatibility, the 4 usb ports, and card reader functions, it seem like more of a basic console, xbox 360 got wifi built in which i think should been from day one, and was good, getting better, wii had that wii slim which seem like downgrade since it has no wifi and only worked with disc.

If people are confusing upgrade can someone let me know? Upgrade adds new features hardware or software wise, revision does same stuff but nothing new, more like 3DS and xl, does same stuff just bigger screen and better battery life. Ds lite has back light original doesn't, too minor to call upgrade.

 

[Kioku]

Not quite sure what you mean. The xbox 360 has several different major hardware revisions. As does the PS3.

Not sure what you consider major... No one PS3 and Xbox 360 outperforms the other. Downsizing isn't "major".

 

[foob]

Ds lite has back light original doesn't, too minor to call upgrade.

I see the DS Lite as a massive upgrade from the original DS. But this is just opinion from a usability standpoint. But these are just opinions.

What isn't opinion (I hope) is the fact the DS Lite was the first major hardware revision for the DS line-up. And then the DSi and DSi XL models. Much like PS3 Slim was a major revision of the original PS3 hardware, and then the PS3 'Super Slim' was a major revision over this. Much like the PSP 1000 series had a major revision with the 2000 series and then 3000 series and then the PSP Go and the cheaper model that followed. Some things missing. Some gained. But noticeably different. A major revision. Internals & externals given an overhaul. Similar story with the XBOX 360 major revisions (the Xbox 360 E being the most recent).

In terms of the Switch, that's what I'm talking about: a completely different model with 'ehnanced' specs making the average user notice that it's new, if nothing else. Often given a different name and different marketing points too. In order to get you to buy another or simply entice new users.

Not sure what you consider major... No one PS3 and Xbox 360 outperforms the other. Downsizing isn't "major".

I am talking about the intertnals and externals given an overhaul & noticeable change. Not minor component revisions inside, which all manufacturers tend to do without announcements. In other words, major revision of the hardware. Not necessarily major spec boost (but not necessarily not either).

 

[Nemix77]

In more than two and half years (just under 3 years) is my guess, expect a New Switch with a custom Pascal chip, 4K and a better battery by end on 2019.

For now I'm just excited for upcoming games announcements, E3 2017, new system updates (more OS features) and software/apps (web browser, YouTube, etc...).

 

[Clector]

Years in case that Nintendo decides to launch a new model.

 

[Jayro]

Nintendo is already working on a powerful home console after the Switch. My stepdad is helping engineer the power supply for it, and that's all he's been able to tell me about it. If I get any more information outta him, I'll post an update.

 

[Dark_Ansem]

the console has been around for 2 FUCKING DAYS. The New 3ds came around late 2015. 3ds was released early 2011. Come back in 4 years,OP.

True, but
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_3DS_family#Nintendo_3DS_family

they released a new model each year.

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Nintendo is already working on a powerful home console after the Switch. My stepdad is helping engineer the power supply for it, and that's all he's been able to tell me about it. If I get any more information outta him, I'll post an update.

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[Elrinth]

I think since the Switch has a ton of problems:
* Joycons which lose connection
* Scratching surfaces when pulling in and out Switch console
* No audio when going to hdtv-mode
* Blurry and bad video signal when going to hdtv-mode
* Possibility to put joycon wrist bands on wrong way
* no gorilla glass on the surface
* way too small internal storage (yes I know it's solved with SD-card, but still!)
* short battery life

So it's definitely going to have some kind of hardware revision sooner than later.

 

[Nemix77]

Nintendo is already working on a powerful home console after the Switch. My stepdad is helping engineer the power supply for it, and that's all he's been able to tell me about it. If I get any more information outta him, I'll post an update.

I believe this to be the case, where others are still in denial the Switch is going to replace the 3DS.

It's still going be a an NVIDIA chipset (perhaps custom Pascal) and most games will still be playable on the Switch (cross platform) the biggest difference is it's going to be 4K with more graphical details, I wouldn't be surprised if all the current Switch peripherals (Pro Controller) work with Nintendo next more powerful dedicated home console.

 

[mgrev]

I hope they use OLED screens if they ever make one, cause the dead pixel shit is a fucking scam

 

[Jayro]

I think since the Switch has a ton of problems:
* Joycons which lose connection <== Never had this happen unless they went to sleep.
* Scratching surfaces when pulling in and out Switch console <== Only if you're a toddler with the way you treat your things.
* No audio when going to hdtv-mode <== I get audio out the HDMI just fine.
* Blurry and bad video signal when going to hdtv-mode <== Um, no..? Looks fine on both my monitors and both my TVs. Maybe yours is dodgy/faulty.
* Possibility to put joycon wrist bands on wrong way <== I don't follow...
* no gorilla glass on the surface <== Nintendo has never used glass, and never will. Their number 1 priority is child safety.
* way too small internal storage (yes I know it's solved with SD-card, but still!) <== This I actually agree with. They could have given us 128GB for the same price without hurting their profit margin. Even phones have 128GB now built-in.
* short battery life <== I haven't given it a workout yet, but I play on half-brightness. I wonder how much the brightness of the screen actually affects battery life in intense games.

So it's definitely going to have some kind of hardware revision sooner than later.

 

[Deleted member 333767]

Ahh, mid-life hardware revisions; the biggest scam in commercial video game console history.... Get a PC if you like upgrading hardware every few years.....

 

[Sonic Angel Knight]

no gorilla glass on the surface

I dunno what this is, first i heard of this.

Also maybe add the fact when docked it randomly switch tv input to the switch and is annoying. NO WEB BROWSER, and no other controls from previous systems and anything replaceable (Joycon or game pad) is expensive.

Also i managed to get about maybe 5-6 hours playing legend of zelda breath of the wild off full charge before shutting off cause low power. Still more would be nice, at least 9 hours.

 

[foob]

I think since the Switch has a ton of problems:
* no gorilla glass on the surface

glass = less scratch but still shatters; I think they made the right decision with plastic.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqMgv9hHmrY

 

[Elrinth]

congratulations that you didn't have problems. it doesn't mean no one else has them
Perhaps you don't even follow all the footage and videos people are putting out regarding the switch. I suggest you take a look around you.

Here's a few for you:

Regarding joycons loosing connection:



Regarding audio disappearing:
* Me and a friend have had the same problem with no audio thru hdmi. the solution was to take the console loose from the dock and reseating it.

Regarding blurry image:
* A friend said over phone he had this problem.
Also these guys seemed to have reproduced the problem regarding blurry image, check at time: 18:02 :

Here he says: "Oh shit what a crappy image, it looks much better back at my place."

Regarding scratching surfaces:
*reddit thread about it: https://www.reddit.com/r/nintendo/comments/5xc6gw/using_the_switch_dock_may_scratch_the_screen/

Possibility to put joycon wrist bands on wrong way:



Overheating broken switch:



Some other problems:

http://www.polygon.com/2017/3/3/14805574/nintendo-switch-hardware-issues-screen

Spawn Wave took apart the joycons and there's this metal above the bluetooth communicator, so there's obvious design flaws there:

 

[Xzi]

What if they end up coming with a new new switch version within the next year.

That runs completely contradictory to the concept of Switch. "Hey, let's create a hybrid device for the purpose of unifying our releases, then a year later make another system so we have to split releases and the schedule becomes sparse again!" Like I said: if it doesn't sell well, they'll just fall back on 3DS and mobile. They won't R&D another device any time soon. Any revisions to Switch will be minor.

 

[KingVamp]

People keep saying they haven't made different versions of the home console before. Ok, one they have, and two, this is their first true hybrid console, so that doesn't really apply.

They said it is a home console first, not that it isn't a portable, which is obvious it is too. Not like things are set in stone anyway.

Also, the small problems that were mention and defects, are not enough reasons for a revision, especially most, if not all, can be fix without changing the Switch hardware itself. Joy Con, Kickstand and dock can all be changed or replaced separately.

Like Wii U, don't expect much in the way of revision. Not sure what they could change to make any meaningful difference with Switch. Micro SDXC and potential support for external HDDs later means there's no storage space issues. Make Switch smaller and it wouldn't be powerful enough to function as a home console. Make it larger and it'd be too big to effectively be used as a portable. For $300, this is the best you're gonna get, and Nintendo won't want to waste money R&Ding another device any time soon. If Switch sells poorly, Nintendo will just fall back on 3DS and mobile. If it sells well, it'll be a mainstay among consoles for 4-5 years.

As someone said before. They made the 2ds. Making a handheld or console only version isn't outside the realm of possibility.

Will probably be 2 to 3 years for the next revision. If they going make the Switch stronger in that time, it is probably just going to be a home console and it if they make a smaller one, it probably going to be handheld only. Meanwhile, they can update the dock and Joy Cons separately.

Surely they can, but I doubt they put more memory on it. That alone, isn't a reason for a revision either.

If you guys are talking about 4K streaming, if they wanted to, I'm pretty sure the Switch would be able to do that already. As for gaming, even the Pro doesn't do that.

Ahh, mid-life hardware revisions; the biggest scam in commercial video game console history.... Get a PC if you like upgrading hardware every few years.....

You don't have to upgrade/change to the revision and a PC isn't a replace for console you want.
Not to mention, if that is the case, upgrades or variation of anything is a scam.

Oh, the screen is not glass? I remember people being so sure it was. At least you can drop it, without it shattering.

They can had cameras and a mic, if they don't add them to the Jon Con. They can add 3D. They may be able make the screen bigger without increasing the overall size. A easy way to put a case on it that covers the screen. Just because they don't have two screens, doesn't mean it can't be a clamshell case.

If there's a 3D Switch revision, I'm buying it.

That runs completely contradictory to the concept of Switch. "Hey, let's create a hybrid device for the purpose of unifying our releases, then a year later make another system so we have to split releases and the schedule becomes sparse again!" Like I said: if it doesn't sell well, they'll just fall back on 3DS and mobile. They won't R&D another device any time soon. Any revisions to Switch will be minor.

Not saying a "New Switch" will happen this soon, but even with the 2ds and New 3DS. They all share most of the same games.

 

[GerbilSoft]

Consoles get hardware revisions all the time. As an example, launch-day Wiis had a 90nm process CPU. Some years later, this was reduced to 65nm. This has no effect on the system other than reducing power usage.

Another example is the GameCube. Early revisions had red "Press Start" text, and IIRC there was a CPU bug that was triggered by Metroid Prime's elevator sequences. Later revisions changed "Press Start" to purple and fixed the CPU bug. There were no major user-visible hardware revisions aside from the removal of the Digital AV port on Rev.C systems. (Rev.B removed Serial Port 2, but no retail devices made use of it.)

On the other hand, there have been some major user-visible differences on a few Nintendo systems that had no effect on the software. For example, the SNES Jr. reduced the size of the system but was basically the same as the original SNES. Similarly, the top-loading NES was nearly identical to the front-loading model, except it had a standard edge connector instead of the ZIF design. (It also removed the 10NES lockout chip.)